qos_75 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, die hard doonhamer said: That's exactly what the Dykes deal was. Livi gave up a sell on fee in order to secure his services 6 months later (they have been burned by pre-contracts before though). We didn't get any fee up front, but basically made a no risk bet on his future (which turned out very well for us). Ah, I see. That sounds fair enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 hours ago, qos_75 said: Not sure, If I am missing something. If he signed a pre-contract with another club, he could stay with us and his new club would get him in June. Why would they want to buy him now, just to loan him back to us (when they could get him for free in the summer)? Granted, any fee we received would be likely to be pretty small. However, I don’t think a buy-to-loan back makes sense in this case Same as Livi did with Dykes cause atleast they have got ther man stops other clubs coming in for him.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northfield 53 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, SUPERSOUTH said: Same as Livi did with Dykes cause atleast they have got ther man stops other clubs coming in for him.... Glad they didn't but why did Livi not just sign Dykes on a pre contract surely that means he would have signed for them in the summer if not what is the point of a pre contract . The Dykes was a great deal for us better than anyone could have hoped for . Hopefully players will only sign pre contracts just now don't want to lose the likes of Shields . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Glad they didn't but why did Livi not just sign Dykes on a pre contract surely that means he would have signed for them in the summer if not what is the point of a pre contract . The Dykes was a great deal for us better than anyone could have hoped for . Hopefully players will only sign pre contracts just now don't want to lose the likes of Shields . Because pre-contracts aren't a guarantee the player will join. It's intent but if a bigger club came in at the death Dykes could have turned Livi down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 My understanding is that there is nothing legally binding about a pre-contract agreement and that Livi had been burned before by players signing PCAs then changing their mind. Hence their keenness to do the deal in January. It was a smart move by both clubs really. Obviously only the two clubs know the nitty gritty details of the transfer but from what has been said - Livi got their man without paying an upfront fee (or perhaps they paid a "nominal fee"), instead they gave us a sell on clause and loaned him back for 6 months, and the loan meant we got to keep Dykes for as long as we were likely to anyway. He then moved to QPR and both clubs earned record transfer fees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReynolds Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Our Scottish cup game has now been postponed. As well as all football below the championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Our Scottish cup game has now been postponed. As well as all football below the championship. Find that a bit strange. If the top two leagues are still playing you'd have thought any games featuring teams from those leagues could still go ahead. It would get them out the way of the backlog. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, 19QOS19 said: 24 minutes ago, FrankReynolds said: Our Scottish cup game has now been postponed. As well as all football below the championship. Find that a bit strange. If the top two leagues are still playing you'd have thought any games featuring teams from those leagues could still go ahead. It would get them out the way of the backlog. That was my first thought too. Better to be safe than sorry though and I wouldn't really be surprised if they extended the ban to all levels of football in the next week or so. Call the leagues now and see if "the rangers" fans don't recognise it as a title win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Fae_the_'briggs said: Call the leagues now ............... Not a bad bit of timing from QOS there then if that happens .......... handy to get a couple of wins in the last two games and move up to 8th in the table! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 That was my first thought too. Better to be safe than sorry though and I wouldn't really be surprised if they extended the ban to all levels of football in the next week or so. Call the leagues now and see if "the rangers" fans don't recognise it as a title win. Or if the Celtic fans do recognise it as Rangers title. Two cheeks of the same arse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TOPFITTER Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Given the latest Covid related football news I was wondering if the SFA / SPFL have made any statements with regards to Gallowaygate ? Or maybe Queen of the South FC will fly under the radar and get away Scot-Free ? Maybe those "apologies" were seen as enough punishment ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeplechat Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Have Queen’s Park been punished for having Leeann Dempster at Hampden as a guest on Friday night ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Steeplechat said: Have Queen’s Park been punished for having Leeann Dempster at Hampden as a guest on Friday night ? Sure if the tv/press cameras looked round the Scottish football stadiums during matches there would be plenty of people in stadiums watching games that shouldn't be.... These aren't isolated incidents, just high profile people.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Sure if the tv/press cameras looked round the Scottish football stadiums during matches there would be plenty of people in stadiums watching games that shouldn't be.... These aren't isolated incidents, just high profile people.... Maybe just teams with "Queen" in their name that are stupid enough to get caught. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: 9 hours ago, FrankReynolds said: Our Scottish cup game has now been postponed. As well as all football below the championship. Find that a bit strange. If the top two leagues are still playing you'd have thought any games featuring teams from those leagues could still go ahead. It would get them out the way of the backlog. We could play the postponed ICT game on the 30th which would allow that game to be caught up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Onion Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Why was our game with ICT postponed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Why was our game with ICT postponed?Because their cup game on Saturday was postponed, so was scheduled to be played this mid-week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Onion Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr X said: 10 minutes ago, Spring Onion said: Why was our game with ICT postponed? Because their cup game on Saturday was postponed, so was scheduled to be played this mid-week And that will have been cancelled as of yesterday's announcement? Wondered if they would have made plans to try and play our game again maybe a day later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Spring Onion said: And that will have been cancelled as of yesterday's announcement? Wondered if they would have made plans to try and play our game again maybe a day later. They couldn’t test the players and get the results back in such a short time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Onion Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, Flash said: They couldn’t test the players and get the results back in such a short time. Ahhh ok, all becomes clearer now. Cheers for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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