craigkillie Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I don't see how the club have acted within their rights. They've breached a black and white rule set by the SG. Fans aren't allowed at games in tier 4. QoS admitted fans. Its pretty open and shut tbh. The rules aren't as black and white as that though. There are a handful of groups of people who are permitted to attend games, and it is possible that Queens could argue that Galloway fell into one of these categories. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The rules aren't as black and white as that though. There are a handful of groups of people who are permitted to attend games, and it is possible that Queens could argue that Galloway fell into one of these categories. That wheeze may have worked if it was just Galloway. IE - QoS could have argued he was there in a media role or some such. However, he was there with his family so that defense is porous. Next. Edited December 28, 2020 by Trogdor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Defensus Porous is actually the club motto. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Queens board having a total mare here, played like fools by a media junkie using them to poke the Scottish government with a stick. I would imagine they have invited him in ahead of fans by using the "boardroom" clause and he has booted them in the stanes. The first apology is insulting and the second is worse as it seeks to create a scenario where they were naive rather than complicit. Tier 4 no ballot, no carrying over of offers no attend, no exceptions. If their story was true then where were the other fans who found themselves in a similar situation, who did and did not get notification they couldn't/couldn't attend. The one thing that won't change is board rooms putting themselves first, we've seen ICT refusing Raith Rovers and Dundee permission to have an analyst film the game from a near empty stand, media access for away clubs to service their fans interest is restricted despite the empty stadiums yet the boardrooms are full.Agree with all of this. It's like the board were starstruck by Galloway, a new level of cringe.If, and when, we are hit with a fine for this it's an absolute disgrace. A shambles from top to bottom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nithsdale Wanderer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, basher brash said: Couldn’t believe George Galloway goes to the game and knowingly breaks tier 4 lock down along with QOTS by permitting spectators in the ground, Secondly he couldn’t help himself but to inform everyone via Twitter he was there, This is a complete disaster for queens in an already poor season now but it’s ok he’s bought 5 season tickets and going to sponsor the club I can just see it on the new shirts I love Alluah Would you care to expand on the meaning of your last sentence there as I'm a little confused ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The rules aren't as black and white as that though. There are a handful of groups of people who are permitted to attend games, and it is possible that Queens could argue that Galloway fell into one of these categories. There is no way you can argue 5 members of the same family, I assume some of which are children, are carrying out official duties at the club that cannot be done from home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-MAN Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 What do you base this confident assertion on? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I've not seen any evidence on the issue either way. Please show your working (without citing this episode as the self evident proof that it isn't).I was born and brought up in Dumfries. My parents still live there. I know who the board members are...staunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkthebigclub Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: Someone has to photoshop a photo of Galloway sitting at the head of the table! A face swap with Gary Oldman, from the end of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, would be magnificent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianDee Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I feel sorry for all the QoS fans that have been wronged by your own club. It always sucks when the people that run your club do the wrong thing, and all you can do is sit back and take the slings and arrows. Trust me I'm a Dee and I know what it's like to feel like you've been just been kneed in the plums by your own club. I don't know what you guys can do about this besides voicing your displeasure and/or withdrawing your monetary support, but under the current circumstances despite the gov't grant could that push your club into disaster? On a related note I've been doing some research on this George Galloway fella and I'm beginning to think that he just might possibly be an odious f*cking rat, and a walloper, a scrote, and a first class weapon... just kidding I'm from Dundee and we've always known that and he isn't welcome back, eff him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, G-MAN said: I was born and brought up in Dumfries. My parents still live there. I know who the board members are...staunch. I tick all three boxes too, but I'm not sure it's granted me insight into the views of three individuals regarding the Scottish Independence question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 On a related note I've been doing some research on this George Galloway fella and I'm beginning to think that he just might possibly be an odious f*cking rat, and a walloper, a scrote, and a first class weapon...Probably the nicest things anyone’s ever said about Galloway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Barry Ferguson's Hat said: Colour me shocked. Is there any club in Scotland that just screams 'unionist' more than 'Queen of the South'? 5 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: I can think of one. Queen of the West 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The rules aren't as black and white as that though. There are a handful of groups of people who are permitted to attend games, and it is possible that Queens could argue that Galloway fell into one of these categories. This for me is the crux of it. I'll admit to struggling to find how Galloway, not to mention other family members, can be deemed able to attend. Similarly though, if it's really as blatant and unequivocal a breach as Trogdor and others are saying, I'm really struggling to understand the level of stupidity required to show Galloway in. I've disagreed with much that the board has done, but I certainly wouldn't consider them to be stupid people. This just looks like such lunacy that I'm inclined to think there must somewhere be a little more nuance, or at least room to claim some. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-MAN Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I tick all three boxes too, but I'm not sure it's granted me insight into the views of three individuals regarding the Scottish Independence question.Oh come on. Galloway has been using the #resignsturgeon hashtag all week. He had regularly boasted he was breaking rules coming back to D&G and what would Sturgeon and the “Seperatists” do about it. He then tweets he was there. Are you honestly saying this wasn’t an orchestrated plan to cry hypocrisy at the First Minister ?This is George Galloway and the Blount’s we are talking about.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianDee Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: Probably the nicest things anyone’s ever said about Galloway I took it easy on him in the spirit of Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReynolds Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Stolen from Twitter but... We've released more statements regarding George Galloway than we've won league games in 2020. Unbelievable. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, FrankReynolds said: Stolen from Twitter but... We've released more statements regarding George Galloway than we've won league games in 2020. Unbelievable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: This for me is the crux of it. I'll admit to struggling to find how Galloway, not to mention other family members, can be deemed able to attend. Similarly though, if it's really as blatant and unequivocal a breach as Trogdor and others are saying, I'm really struggling to understand the level of stupidity required to show Galloway in. I've disagreed with much that the board has done, but I certainly wouldn't consider them to be stupid people. This just looks like such lunacy that I'm inclined to think there must somewhere be a little more nuance, or at least room to claim some. I think you've answered your own question with the part in bold. We may just have managed to crawl out of this one by making up some story about him being there in a professional capacity had he been there on his own. I don't think that argument holds any water now it has been found to have been a family day out. Even if we somehow get away with it by claiming he was there due to his sponsorship it sends completely the wrong message to the, already alienated, fans that the club will bend over backwards for you if you have money or a bit of clout. I think the board have been extremely stupid and completely played by a known shyster. They probably expected it to all go under the radar and have gone into full panic mode since the self-publicist took to Twitter with his antics. Edited December 28, 2020 by palmy_cammy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, G-MAN said: Oh come on. Galloway has been using the #resignsturgeon hashtag all week. He had regularly boasted he was breaking rules coming back to D&G and what would Sturgeon and the “Seperatists” do about it. He then tweets he was there. Are you honestly saying this wasn’t an orchestrated plan to cry hypocrisy at the First Minister ? This is George Galloway and the Blount’s we are talking about.... I have no doubts Galloway did this for his own ends. I have serious doubts that the club were complicit in it though, which is what you were claiming earlier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Well done lads you are now also on the bbc aswell as the bible 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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