The Queen of the South thread

[Steeplechat]

Fozzy Bear 

Whoosh

[MONKMAN]

Laughing stock of a club.

[NOTS]

4 hours ago, Steeplechat said:

 

Whoosh

 

Gusto!

[NOTS]

11 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

Laughing stock of a club.

Hilarious 

[Steeplechat]

Laughing stock of a club.

It’s time Mr Hewitson stepped aside and let someone else take over.

We’ve had enough

[kleinfaethetoon]

Not living locally for a number of years but I am totally lost at what’s going on concerning the BOD etc why is the club a laughing stock? what has the chairman done for a call for him to step aside?

[The Magic Moose]

10 minutes ago, kleinfaethetoon said:

Not living locally for a number of years but I am totally lost at what’s going on concerning the BOD etc why is the club a laughing stock? what has the chairman done for a call for him to step aside?

The whole Jim Thompson soap opera would be one of the reasons.

[JessieField]

On ‎02‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 14:34, NOTS said:

On looking at Naysmith's managerial performances with East Fife and Queens, here are the up-to-date stats:

East Fife November 2013 to 6 December 2016

130 games in-charge, 50 games Won, 27 games Draws, 53 games Lost. Win Percentage; just under 39%

Queen of the South 6 December 2016 to Present

65 games in-charge, 22 games Won, 20 games Draws, 23 games Lost. Win Percentage; just under 34%

 

You've got to consider the fact that the Championship is a harder league than the one East Fife play in?

[Monkey Tennis]

15 minutes ago, JessieField said:

You've got to consider the fact that the Championship is a harder league than the one East Fife play in?

Yes, but Queens are therefore meant to be a better side.

By that logic, Cowdenbeath would be bound to have a better win percentage than Aberdeen.

[Guest Flash]

30 minutes ago, JessieField said:

You've got to consider the fact that the Championship is a harder league than the one East Fife play in?

 

On 02/04/2018 at 15:01, Flash said:

Of the 22 wins, 10 have been against teams who were either lower league or on their way there (6 League 1, 4 League 2). And all but one of them part-time.

Of the remainder, 3 have been against Dumbarton, who are part-time.

That leaves 9 and 3 of those were v St.Mirren and Falkirk when they were terrible. The other 6 were 2 v Morton, 2 v Dundee U, 1 v Livi and 1 v Dunfermline.

 

 

I think the breakdown of wins is this 

Premiership level (including St.Mirren this season and Hibs last) 8 games 0 wins. Win percentage 0%. (incidentally 1 draw, 7 defeats, although the draw was also a defeat on penalties).

Championship level 41 games 12 wins. Win percentage 29%.

League 1 and lower (including Ayr and Raith from last season and Brechin this season) played 15 Won 10. Win percentage 67%.

Not sure where to categorise TNS and not included. It was a defeat anyway.

Edited April 3, 2018 by Flash

[die hard doonhamer]

Another late goal counter update

Won with late goals – 6 games

18/09/2010 Partick (h) 2-1 87min
30/04/2011 Raith (a) 1-0 90min
07/01/2012 Partick (a) 1-0 89min
23/03/2013 Alloa (a) 2-1 85min
06/05/2014 Falkirk (h) 2-1 90min
10/10/2014 Raith (a) 4-3 90min

Scored late to draw – 13 games

12/02/2011 Partick (h) 3-3 87 & 90min
18/09/2012 Rangers (a) 2-2 90min
16/03/2013 Arbroath (a) 1-1 90min
27/04/2013 East Fife (h) 2-2 87&90min
17/08/2013 Livingston (a) 3-3 86min
12/10/2013 Cowdenbeath (h) 1-1 85min
03/05/2014 Cowdenbeath (a) 1-1 90min
10/03/2015 Rangers (a) 1-1 86min
01/08/2015 Annan (a) 3-3 90min
02/04/2016 Falkirk (h) 2-2 90min
16/04/2016 Alloa (a) 2-2 85min
07/10/2017 Montrose (a) 1-1 (3-1 win AET) 87min
24/03/2018 Livingston (h) 3-3 90min

Conceded late to draw – 9 games

22/02/2011 Stirling (h) 2-2 87min
01/03/2011 Cowdenbeath (a) 2-2 90min
06/08/2011 Livingston (a) 2-2 85min
11/02/2012 Ayr (a) 1-1 85min
18/02/2012 Dundee (h) 1-1 89min
29/01/2014 Morton (a) 1-1 86min
25/10/2014 Livingston (a) 2-2 88min
14/01/2017 Dundee United (a) 3-3 89min
03/04/2018 Falkirk (h) 2-2 87min

Lost with late goals – 19 games

11/12/2010 Dunfermline (a) 1-0 86min
12/03/2011 Dundee (a) 2-1 87min
20/08/2011 Ross County (a) 2-0 87 & 90min
27/08/2011 Partick (a) 2-1 85min
15/10/2011 Falkirk (a) 1-0 90min
14/02/2012 Aberdeen (h) 2-1 90min
28/09/2013 Dumbarton (h) 2-1 87min
05/10/2013 Falkirk (a) 2-1 85min
19/10/2013 Dundee (a) 2-1 89min
23/11/2013 Raith (a) 2-1 87min
22/02/2014 Falkirk (a) 1-0 90min
20/12/2014 Cowdenbeath (h) 90min
21/02/2015 Hearts (h) 2-1 85min
17/10/2015 Rangers (a) 2-1 90min
19/12/2015 Hibernian (a) 1-0 90min
23/07/2016 Partick (a) 2-1 90min
29/10/2016 Raith (a) 1-0 90min
29/11/2016 Albion Rovers (a) 2-1 90min
06/12/2016 St Mirren (h) 3-2 90min

[BIGdavieT]

Are these awful crowds going to force the BOD’s hand?

[QoSinPerth]

2015-16     42 points; 2016-17    43 points; 2017-18     43 points so far...or is that it for the season?

[palmy_cammy]

5 hours ago, BIGdavieT said:

Are these awful crowds going to force the BOD’s hand?

That is surely now a very real possibility.  I like Naysmith, but our home form is nothing short of dreadful.  When the fans start voting with their feet it usually results in one outcome.

Again you have to feel a bit of sympathy for the manager as a lot of the reasons people aren't attending are out of his control.

[Monkey Tennis]

28 minutes ago, palmy_cammy said:

That is surely now a very real possibility.  I like Naysmith, but our home form is nothing short of dreadful.  When the fans start voting with their feet it usually results in one outcome.

Again you have to feel a bit of sympathy for the manager as a lot of the reasons people aren't attending are out of his control.

There must indeed be real concern about where our gates are now heading.  There's a real sense that the stature of the club that's been in place for around fifteen years is now shrinking quickly.

It's something that needs arresting, but the difficulty is that there will, as you say, be loads of reasons behind this slide.  Many of them will beyond anyone's control, so getting rid of the manager in no way represents a solution here.  

I'm absolutely no fan of Naysmith and would happily see him leave.  From the board's viewpoint though, I still would imagine that the risk, upheaval and expense of sacking a contracted manager, can't yet be outweighed by concern over decreasing crowds, when the manager's role in that decline is not clear.

Edited April 4, 2018 by Monkey Tennis

[overthetop]

Manager might walk away himself. He hardly looks like he’s enjoying the experience! Mind you the fans aren’t either.

[Doonhamer doon south]

If the manager goes though are we going to jump back up to 1400 fans attending. Maybe. Maybe not. There is no right or wrong answer but change in some way or another is necessary I feel. It' sad what's happening at the club on and off the pitch. 6th seems almost decent now. 

[JessieField]

3 hours ago, QoSinPerth said:

2015-16     42 points; 2016-17    43 points; 2017-18     43 points so far...or is that it for the season?

I hadn't realised this, puts things into perspective a bit I suppose. I think we will pick up more points before the end of the season.

Edited April 4, 2018 by JessieField
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[Bluenortherner]

On 4/16/2011 at 18:55, Dougie Mills said:

Should we go down the part-time route next season (which looks a certainty) i hope the BOD aren't budgeting on crowds of anything over 1000 because at £17 a game - the already pissed off Dumfriesshire public certainly aren't going to turn up in decent numbers!

Nothing has changed over the years and the apathy among our supporters just keeps growing!

[the tactician]

crowds arent going to get any better while the board are still there, take my hats off to the SLO guys who try there hardest to get people to the games but the club is  a laughing stock in dumfries these days.