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Did anyone else think the finale was also really fucking dull?

After Jon offed Dany I’m struggling to think of anything that actually happened besides deciding who the new King should be.

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56 minutes ago, J_Stewart said:

Arya's entire story ending with her going on an adventure with the justification that "no one knows what's West of  Westeros" when Bran - her brother sitting a foot away from her - has the power to KNOW FUCKING EVERYTHING is a pretty good summation of the writing for season 8, IMHO (In My Humble Opinion).

Well not quite. Bran knows everything that's happened, but if no one has ever been West of Westeros, he can't know that, surely? 

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1 hour ago, Sooky said:

Also, last night served as a reminder that Peter Dinklage was the stand out actor of the series, imo. Especially for this scene back in season 4.
 

That scene reminds me of how badly his role has fallen off.  And indeed, perhaps not coincidentally, the show itself has fallen off.


Given the CGI-over-plot final series, and given that the writers took the very obvious way out with Dany, I thought the final episode was as good as I could have expected.    In the scale of the entire show, well below par.  As regards this series, one of the more involving episodes.


Edit: I finished watching it ten minutes ago, and there's something that's been nagging at me all the time.  I've just worked out what it was.  There's absolutely no way that Samwell would have just let that happen to Jon.  Even if he couldn't have prevented it, he'd clearly have gone with Jon, or offered him some kind of redemption.    The storywriters really did phone in parts of this last series, didn't they?

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51 minutes ago, Lisa Cuddy said:

Well not quite. Bran knows everything that's happened, but if no one has ever been West of Westeros, he can't know that, surely? 

He also has the ability to perceive the future, so arguably he could know how Arya's expedition will work out. Which I guess also means he knew Dany would torch King's Landing and decided not to tell anyone about it and just let it play out so he could end up being king. What a creepy b*****d.

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I should probably be surprised that we have no idea where Drogon went with Dany’s body but with the way this season has planned out I’m not surprised they just left it as it was.

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56 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

Edit: I finished watching it ten minutes ago, and there's something that's been nagging at me all the time.  I've just worked out what it was.  There's absolutely no way that Samwell would have just let that happen to Jon.  Even if he couldn't have prevented it, he'd clearly have gone with Jon, or offered him some kind of redemption.    The storywriters really did phone in parts of this last series, didn't they?

The bit that bugged me was "Why send Jon to the Night's Watch at all?" It doesn't exist anymore and even if he was being given the task of rebuilding it...why? Who's the threat? Guarding the realms of men is all fine and well but if that's the case, are they not just a northern division of the Territorial Army? Practice with your swords, stay in trim and if for some reason we ever need you to fight, we'll let you know. And by the way, there's no reason to assume it will be near the wall so you may have to travel to where the action is.

Yes, I get that he was being exiled as a way of avoiding a war by appeasing-but-not-really Grey Worm who wanted him dead, and the family Stark who wanted him freed. As far as I could tell though, all they cared about was that he went "Far from here."  It would've made more sense if they'd just said "f**k off and live with the wildlings and don't come back." He could then spend the rest of his days getting hammered with Tormund and begging wildling ladies to wear a red wig and answer to "Ygritte".

And good luck to him. 

 

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Feel a little let down by the lack of big name deaths at the end tbh. Was half expecting the unsullied to appear from around every corner and kill folk. Even at the end when the cameras split three ways.

 

Even a wee sly smile from Tyrion when he sat in the Hand’s seat after rearranging the chairs would have been good.

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16 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

Yeah I thought there was some symbolism in them all heading North...

Are we looking at spin offs?

I think they certainly made sure they kept the options open

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1 hour ago, D'Jaffo said:

I should probably be surprised that we have no idea where Drogon went with Dany’s body but with the way this season has planned out I’m not surprised they just left it as it was.

He died on the way back to his home planet

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I'm fine with that ending. Not great, not bad.

Absolutely terrific stuff from Peter Dinklage, though.

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I should probably be surprised that we have no idea where Drogon went with Dany’s body but with the way this season has planned out I’m not surprised they just left it as it was.
Off to Valyria surely

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7 hours ago, Grant228 said:

Oaft, that's not aged well. 

Aye, got that one wrong. Didn't see it coming and think it was a bit w**k. Poor writing.

Strangely you didn't quote the rest though. Why not?

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Big fan of Drogon not being mad at his maw dying and understanding the symbolism of burning down the Iron Throne. That's how he survived and his dumb brothers didn't.

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Is it just me that thought Jon on his horse through the forest with various Wildlings walking behind him, some of them walkong a bjt funny, looked like the NK and his followers?

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8 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Aye, got that one wrong. Didn't see it coming and think it was a bit w**k. Poor writing.

Strangely you didn't quote the rest though. Why not?

Because it was that particular point that I was pointing out hadn't aged well. 

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Wonder where this poor cow is?

Total botch job. Bookies had Bran favourite from the start of the season, must have been a script leak because there was no explanation for it at all.

Shame. 6 seasons of tv gold, right down the pan.220px-Ellaria_Sand.jpg

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Anyway, episode started off really well. Was pretty tense and enjoyable  After Danaerys was offed though it went a bit meh and, at times, a bit shit.

Agree with the point about the Unsullied capturing Jon. Why? Why didn't they just execute him? They'd just murdered civilians and other prisoners, so there's no reason why they wouldn't kill Jon. They didn't need to bargain with the North or anyone else, as it could potentially be months before they even found out Jon was dead.

There was even less reason for them to keep Tyrion alive. In fact there was zero reason for it.

Chuckled at Edmure. Good lad, but a dim lad. I think even he knows it. Who was the guy beside Yohn Royce? Not Robyn (absolutely gutted he's still alive) but on the other side.

Agree that the Arya stuff was pish. They had no idea where to go with her so just had her f**k off.

 

Not sure where folk are getting that the Wall was torn down/destroyed from. It was only a section at Eastwatch by the Sea that was destroyed.

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1 minute ago, Grant228 said:

Because it was that particular point that I was pointing out hadn't aged well. 

The rest did though

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I thought Arya's ending was very fitting. All she's ever done is fanny around traveling where her whims take her. As she explained to Gendry (I was disappointed they never touched on the proposal since the KB) she's not interested in titles and politicking, her ending was exactly in character.

Since when has Bran been able to see the future?

I liked Bran making Tyrion hand, essentially saying "Even the best f**k up every now and again, people need to be forgiven for honest mistakes."

What happened to the Dothraki? Did they just hitch a ride with The Unsullied? Popular opinions thread for this pish but Grey Worm was a c**t.

Of all the unbelievable things over the last eight seasons the least believable is that someone would write a hefty tome about the events and not mention somebody who killed two members of the royal family while himself being a member of said family, who served as hand twice and saved King's Landing at the Battle of Blackwater Bay.

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