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Erm yes, because Tywin was only the main native creditor of the crown, a highly powerful and feared baron on Westeros and still running the kingdom when he was killed - some ringer in the Night's Watch takes natural precedence.

Well yeah Tywin was one of the most powerful people in the Kingdom but really he was only important to the future of House Lannister, without him everything has gone to shit for them, but the Kingdom can continue on...until the White Walkers invade.

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Well yeah Tywin was one of the most powerful people in the Kingdom but really he was only important to the future of House Lannister, without him everything has gone to shit for them, but the Kingdom can continue on...until the White Walkers invade.

Cuts to the chase of the whole story. We know the white walkers are comming but in Kings Landing they scoff at them as grumkins and kids stories. To a Westerosi noble the death of Tywin is one of the key events of the age. To the audience, we can see the real threat. Standard horror movie or whatever set up: girl on phone going nuts at boyfriend dumping her while the audience can see the axe murderer\werewolf in the upstairs loft.

Tywins death was a huge event for people focussed on the foreground: the Tyrells and the Lannisters and all that lot. But the audience anticipates Jon as one of the heroes to save the people from the white walkers.

If he is dead then its a big BANG you were all wrong or if he survives its kind of YES now hes around for the real fight.

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Nope, by the time the White Walkers actually get round to invading the entire, huge and pointless North then the real action will be over and done with. Plus Ramsay will end up beating them anyway because that's apparently how it works.

It's just as disjointed in the timeline of the books; wouldn't be surprised if Martin just bumps the WW off using the dragons as soon as Daenerys lands.

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Nope, by the time the White Walkers actually get round to invading the entire, huge and pointless North then the real action will be over and done with. Plus Ramsay will end up beating them anyway because that's apparently how it works.

It's just as disjointed in the timeline of the books; wouldn't be surprised if Martin just bumps the WW off using the dragons as soon as Daenerys lands.

The 'entire, huge and pointless North' has a lot more importance than you realise, if that's your opinion. Jon told Sam that the White Walkers already had an army of 'tens of thousands, bigger than any army the world's ever seen'.

The whole series is called 'A Song of Ice and Fire' - not Game of Thrones. The Wall and the threat of the WW appears to me as the biggest story so far... everything else just seems like politics. Daenerys seems to be the fire. She seems to be a very integral part of the story that will be there until the end. Jon always seemed like the Ice. Either way, the battle has nothing to do with all the shit between the Lannisters and the Boltons and the Tyrells and whoever else... that's all just politics that are pre-cards to the main event. The main event - as apparently only Jon Snow realised so far - is that the White Walkers are coming for everyone else. 'Winter is Coming' and The Starks seem to have an unshakable grip on the entire story that cannot be ignored despite most of them being killed off.

It's a Song of Ice and Fire.

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I find the politics etc about a thousand times more interesting than the White Walkers tbh. All gets a wee bit too fantasy for me with them.

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Right, they are all away watching it now. This is fucking hilarious. Which one were you? I was the shouty boy.

Big Keith from The Office just lying on the bed there, not giving one f**k.

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A flasher gets around £900

Why'd you blur your porn links?

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The 'entire, huge and pointless North' has a lot more importance than you realise, if that's your opinion. Jon told Sam that the White Walkers already had an army of 'tens of thousands, bigger than any army the world's ever seen'.

The whole series is called 'A Song of Ice and Fire' - not Game of Thrones. The Wall and the threat of the WW appears to me as the biggest story so far... everything else just seems like politics. Daenerys seems to be the fire. She seems to be a very integral part of the story that will be there until the end. Jon always seemed like the Ice. Either way, the battle has nothing to do with all the shit between the Lannisters and the Boltons and the Tyrells and whoever else... that's all just politics that are pre-cards to the main event. The main event - as apparently only Jon Snow realised so far - is that the White Walkers are coming for everyone else. 'Winter is Coming' and The Starks seem to have an unshakable grip on the entire story that cannot be ignored despite most of them being killed off.

It's a Song of Ice and Fire.

The WW were introduced in Series 1; it's now the end of Series 5, and they've not even made it south of the Wall, never mind The Neck. That was back in the series when Robert was king, before multiple other kings were bumped off, dragons were hatched and grown to a reasonable size etc. Even more shit kicks off in the South at the end of the books which the show hasn't covered, or won't to bring us closer to the finale. So... short of Ryanair introducing cheap flights from Castle Black to anywhere where we give a f**k, they aren't going to be the centre piece of this story. Much like Stannis landing to defeat the wildlings, the easy get out of this pointless cul-de-sac will be the dragons frying them when they eventually land.

Deal with it.

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The white walkers are waiting for "winter" though.

It will be rubbish if it comes down to them and the dragons given the emotional attachment we will all have with some of the real characters on the show. Really don't see it coming down to that at all.

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I can very much see the dragons roasting the WW tbh. With three dragon riders providing the character input.

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I'd be astounded if the dragons simply roasted the WW tbh

I sort of vaguely remember folk talked about the White Walkers being around before, what happened to make this vanish that time? Spring?

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I'd be astounded if the dragons simply roasted the WW tbh

I sort of vaguely remember folk talked about the White Walkers being around before, what happened to make this vanish that time? Spring?

Book spoiler

The children of the forest united with the first men to defeat them iirc. Which could be happening again. And the wall was possibly erected to keep them out. Think the books are bit more hazy on that though.

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The children of the forest united with the first men to defeat them iirc. Which could be happening again. And the wall was possibly erected to keep them out. Think the books are bit more hazy on that though.

Fair dues. I assume Brans story will maybe shed some light on things for me

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Another kinda book spoiler tells us that dire wolves are more prevalent in the past winters. Maybe they might start having a say again in the future. It would make sense, so that rules it out I guess.

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I wonder if Bran can take over a white walker or if it's only living things. He could control that whole army

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