Caractacus Potts Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Caractacus Potts said: Morrison will still make mistakes, that’s why he’s with us. It’s great to see him on a run but this isn’t anything new, he’s been a key performer the past few seasons so there’s nothing different to his game. It still amazes me how many fans start to realise his worth to the team. His ratio for goals and assists is up there with the best of them for us. Why the red dot @Back Post Misses? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 hours ago, Reggie Perrin said: The second half of the game at TFS we gave them a bit of a battering so not concerned about previous performances. Really ? Given that Kelty have beaten us twice I’m totally with @Harry Kinnearon this one. Make no mistake, this is a massive game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 14 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Really ? Given that Kelty have beaten us twice I’m totally with @Harry Kinnearon this one. Make no mistake, this is a massive game. It's huge and could be, pivotal. If we win, whilst also getting this years 'bogey team' off our backs, and Dunfermline drop anything against Montrose, I reckon the momentum changes and it would definitely be game on! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 A bit of reality of where we are. Points will be dropped by all the teams in the remaining games. Yes we've had five wins out of five. Yes we look like we’re playing as a unit/team. Yes Nesbit & Morrison have been far more consistent. All considered it’s a “work in progress” improvement of the previous shite we’ve endured for the last four seasons. Still a few away games we simply have to win. Maybe a bit of positive caution in light of where we’ve been, but a strong third quarter would send out a clear message to the rest. Looks like we’ve done our transfer business with players, maybe a late announcement might be the difference……. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Latest episode of the podcast is out now. All the details you need are below; This weeks episode is dedicated to a great Camelon guy that I’ve known most of my Bairns supporting life - A massive Bairn, Jock Marshall . RIP Jock. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Really ? Given that Kelty have beaten us twice I’m totally with @Harry Kinnearon this one. Make no mistake, this is a massive game. Certainly a massive game, the point that I was making is that we outplayed them in the second half at TFS so no need to overthink the bogey team pish. We are stronger than we were back then and McGlynn surely won’t come away with another brain fart team selection like the first Kelty game. We will win this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 hours ago, Shodwall cat said: Even in the wspl this season teams are getting beat eight and nine nothing. There was even a 14 nothing at one point. Maybe Aberdeen's men's team should try their luck there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, ShaggerG said: It's huge and could be, pivotal. If we win, whilst also getting this years 'bogey team' off our backs, and Dunfermline drop anything against Montrose, I reckon the momentum changes and it would definitely be game on! Airdrie’s been a bit of a bogey this year as well, but agree if we can beat Kelty momentum will be with us for a strong run. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 18 hours ago, Harry Kinnear said: Kelty on Saturday is huge, given the way we have played against them in the previous two games. We have to win the physical battle and take our chances. I think the squad is better placed mentally to do this, Henderson in midfield makes a big difference. I know you're correct. And I've been away too long (10 years) and need a reality check. But that just seems wild to me. Kelty? Remember we played Ajax once........and won. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 hours ago, Hank von Hell said: I know you're correct. And I've been away too long (10 years) and need a reality check. But that just seems wild to me. Kelty? Remember we played Ajax once........and won. I know and agree totally, but unfortunately it’s where we find ourselves at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgenarse Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Harry Kinnear said: I know and agree totally, but unfortunately it’s where we find ourselves at the moment. Someone at the Bonnyrigg game hit the nail on the head by pointing out a few years back we were playing at Hampden now it seems like playing in someone's back garden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamstonbairn Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just got my AGM papers by email. Highlights; FFC made a loss of £1.2m in the year to 31st May 2022. Although losses are forecast to reduce this year, the current business model is seen as unsustainable. Options for the club will be outlined to shareholders at the AGM on 23rd February. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Post Misses Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 22 minutes ago, grahamstonbairn said: Just got my AGM papers by email. Highlights; FFC made a loss of £1.2m in the year to 31st May 2022. Although losses are forecast to reduce this year, the current business model is seen as unsustainable. Options for the club will be outlined to shareholders at the AGM on 23rd February. The numbers are horrible but this model has been ingrained now for 12 years. Cup runs, player sales and to a lesser extent concerts have papered over the cracks. If fan ownership is to succeed many more than 635 fans need to sign up to FSS. Failure to increase that significantly will mean the Board have no option but to seek external investment IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 58 minutes ago, grahamstonbairn said: Just got my AGM papers by email. Highlights; FFC made a loss of £1.2m in the year to 31st May 2022. Although losses are forecast to reduce this year, the current business model is seen as unsustainable. Options for the club will be outlined to shareholders at the AGM on 23rd February. Last year seems to have been even worse than some of the reports leaked at the time suggested, luckily the club had both cash reserves and a significant investment mid season from the patrons group otherwise we wouldn’t have seen the season out. The other part I noted was the projected 400k operating loss predicted in this year has been covered via 145k of soft loans plus further external investment, is that 265k the board have been able to raise from within the patrons group/FSS or has there been another contributing share purchase? It’s another pretty sizeable amount particularly if it came from the patrons group when you put it on top of the near 300k those same fans put in last year. The general take seems to be for fan ownership to work properly the numbers paying into the FSS need to increase significantly in line with other fan owned clubs our size who run similar models, I’m expecting another big push from the FSS in conjunction with the club this summer to attract people, perhaps the FSS could work with the club and offer a membership package in conjunction with season tickets? Edited January 31 by LatapyBairn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Post Misses Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, LatapyBairn. said: Last year seems to have been even worse than some of the reports leaked at the time suggested, luckily the club had both cash reserves and a significant investment mid season from the patrons group otherwise we wouldn’t have seen the season out. The other part I noted was the projected 400k operating loss predicted in this year has been covered via 145k of soft loans plus further external investment, is that 265k the board have been able to raise from within the patrons group/FSS or has there been another contributing share purchase? It’s another pretty sizeable amount when you put it on top of the near 300k the fans put in last year. I believe that the FSS cash contributes to the 400k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Back Post Misses said: I believe that the FSS cash contributes to the 400k That situation is not sustainable and should be a one-off. Scrambling around mid-season to get cash to keep trading indicates the boards financial projections were way out. The economic outlook is grim for everybody with declining disposable income and sadly going to the football is one of the things that people have to give up if it means food on the table. Next year's budget must be cautious and more realistic the future of the club depends on it. Then if there is a surplus of funds mid-season then the manager can wheel and deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, HopeStreetWalker said: That situation is not sustainable and should be a one-off. Scrambling around mid-season to get cash to keep trading indicates the boards financial projections were way out. The economic outlook is grim for everybody with declining disposable income and sadly going to the football is one of the things that people have to give up if it means food on the table. Next year's budget must be cautious and more realistic the future of the club depends on it. Then if there is a surplus of funds mid-season then the manager can wheel and deal. The club made an operating loss of 1.2 million in the previous year! I actually think getting that down to 400k in the space of 6 months while still being able to fund a decent side on the park is quite good going. Hopefully that improvement continues and they have ideas and strategy to continue to grow our income, simply cutting the playing budget is to simplistic and will actually only make the problem worse, if there is a lack of product on the park it drives turnover down, discourages sponsorship, hospitality and crowd numbers inevitably drop. We need to be creative and find a way to close the funding gap that isn’t simply cut cut cut. If we are not competitive on the park the whole business model collapses. Edited January 31 by LatapyBairn. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Post Misses Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 22 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: That situation is not sustainable and should be a one-off. Scrambling around mid-season to get cash to keep trading indicates the boards financial projections were way out. The economic outlook is grim for everybody with declining disposable income and sadly going to the football is one of the things that people have to give up if it means food on the table. Next year's budget must be cautious and more realistic the future of the club depends on it. Then if there is a surplus of funds mid-season then the manager can wheel and deal. we have budgeted this way every season since we went down. As stated before the hole has been filled before with Transfer fees, Cup runs and concerts. The FSS cash comes in every month, every season. ATM FSS contributes c95k/year. So if you take where we are now and we have the same budget then the “hole” is 300k. Therefore if you could get to 1800 fans the “hole” would only be 100k. The fans either want fan ownership or not. The numbers are the reality of the situation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Post Misses Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, LatapyBairn. said: The club made an operating loss of 1.2 million in the previous year, I actually think getting that down to 400k in the space of 6 months while still being able to fund a decent side on the park is quite good going. Hopefully that improvement continues and they have ideas and strategy to continue to grow our income, simply cutting the playing budget is to simplistic and will actually only make the problem worse, if there is a lack of product on the park it drives turnover down, discourages sponsorship, hospitality and crowd numbers. We need to be creative and find a way to close the funding gap that isn’t simply cut cut cut. If we are not competitive on the park the whole business model collapses. 100% this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Is it the end of March you can sign free agents up to? Just thinking if we've got the boy Fisher coming back in for another trial we'd have until then to sign him for this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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