Springfield Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Always said this would be a difficult window for M&S. Losing the sevcos makes it very difficult as both decent quality and if my maths are correct it’s now four possibly five to come in. With the balance of games in the next four weeks against lower half teams, it might give the guys some breathing space albeit some difficult games. How do we measure the manager? We’ll soon find out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: I see where you are coming from but with Kenneddy I was just beginning to anticipate what was to come rather than what we had so far For me it wasn't just Kennedy, who certainly had hit a rich vein of form, it was the fact that, with Rowe signing, we at last had a system that suited us. Two wingers with over (or under) lapping full backs and a goal threat from midfield. Whilst Oliver has done well enough in the last two games we've lost an option in Alegria being away and I don't think McGuffie would give us the same impact as Kennedy has been doing in recent weeks. It'll be difficult to replace them with similar quality; McGlynn must be tearing out what little hair he has left! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Well said Mark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number seven Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Rangers can surely do what they want with their player? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Number seven said: Rangers can surely do what they want with their player? Lennon Walker ready to fill the gap? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number seven Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, FFC 1876 said: Lennon Walker ready to fill the gap? Falkirk can surely do what they want with their player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge of allan bairn Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) The whole loanee thing is a nonsense. I understand it's part of the game now and part of the pond we now have to fish in but I detest the principal of it. Very difficult for a manager like mcglynn to plan when he continually gets the rug pulled from under his feet. This is why the medium to long term plan has to be to have our own players coming through and those we get in are ours and contracted to us. I never want to have to rely on rangers. As for alegria and Kennedy both were doing a decent job for us, but I'd argue there are many better and more important players in our squad and both are definitely replacable. Edited January 19, 2023 by bridge of allan bairn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Otis Blue said: I've been to Tampa with work, and I've been to Falkirk many times over the years ... tough decision for the lad tbf ... actually, no ... it's not tough at all. Me too….and St Petersburg Florida where they actually play is a fantastic place to live and work. Can’t blame anyone for moving there….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, bridge of allan bairn said: The whole loanee thing is a nonsense. I have understand it's part of the game now and part of the pond we now have to fish in but I detest the principal of it. Very difficult for a manager like mcglynn to plan when he continually gets the rug pulled from under his feet. This is why the medium to long term plan has to be to have our own players coming through and those we get in are ours and contracted to us. I never want to have to rely on rangers. As for alegria and Kennedy both were doing a decent job for us, but I'd argue there are many better and more important players in our squad and they are definitely replacable. The way I see it loans are really little different to contracted players at this level given so many players are on one year contracts. Realistically, if we had signed Kennedy permanently last summer, a club could just as easily have come in with a bid now and he’d have been sold. Loans are absolutely vital in my view as they give you access to players we would not be able to sign for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, bridge of allan bairn said: The whole loanee thing is a nonsense. I understand it's part of the game now and part of the pond we now have to fish in but I detest the principal of it. Very difficult for a manager like mcglynn to plan when he continually gets the rug pulled from under his feet. This is why the medium to long term plan has to be to have our own players coming through and those we get in are ours and contracted to us. I never want to have to rely on rangers. As for alegria and Kennedy both were doing a decent job for us, but I'd argue there are many better and more important players in our squad and both are definitely replacable. Agree, there's no doubt like most other clubs we have to use the loan market, but you are at the mercy of the owning club to take players back from you in the window causing all sorts of disruption. And loan players very rarely stay longer than one season so they are never players to build a team around. I think most now agree the preference is to bring in our own academy players and it will take time for this to filter through. The legacy of Craig Campbell lives on at our club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, roman_bairn said: Me too….and St Petersburg Florida where they actually play is a fantastic place to live and work. Can’t blame anyone for moving there….. Absolutely ... my earlier post wasn't a pop at the Falkirk area btw ... you just can't blame a young lad for grabbing a chance like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrbairn Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 We need to get cracking signing players. The bench will not look too good if/when the sevco two disappear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppetshow Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 anybody any idea when lawal will be back? obv we are thin on the ground but starting 11 is still v good 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I think I will wait and see if there is any truth in this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 That will be the end of the Weston chat then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Hank von Hell said: Agree, there's no doubt like most other clubs we have to use the loan market, but you are at the mercy of the owning club to take players back from you in the window causing all sorts of disruption. And loan players very rarely stay longer than one season so they are never players to build a team around. I think most now agree the preference is to bring in our own academy players and it will take time for this to filter through. The legacy of Craig Campbell lives on at our club. Presumably you wouldn’t want the likes of Lawal, Yates and Burrell then or previously Will Vaulks or Luke Leahy then as they didn’t come through the academy? -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hank von Hell Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 41 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said: Presumably you wouldn’t want the likes of Lawal, Yates and Burrell then or previously Will Vaulks or Luke Leahy then as they didn’t come through the academy? Where did I say I wanted exclusively academy players? Thought it would be obvious to most that we need a mix of youth & experience, so i didn't state that ,but just for your benefit - we need a mix of youth and experience, and maybe one day that youth element will contain some home-grown players. I certainly hope so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hank von Hell said: Where did I say I wanted exclusively academy players? Thought it would be obvious to most that we need a mix of youth & experience, so i didn't state that ,but just for your benefit - we need a mix of youth and experience, and maybe one day that youth element will contain some home-grown players. I certainly hope so. You said “the preference is to bring in academy players”. Surely the preference should be to bring in the best players possible, whether they be from our academy, youngsters released from other clubs or a loan player who is going to add quality to the squad? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Sacramento Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 The problem of the loan market is more you get clubs stockpiling players, with no intention of ever playing them in first team, just trying to eek out loan fees and transfer fees. Got worse i think since the ugly sisters have been allowed to have teams in Lowland leagues. Get those teams to fk, and limit number of players a team can loan out, and problem solved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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