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8 hours ago, Back Post Misses said:

It isn’t going to work then. FFS Morton have 1000. How can a St.Mirren and Motherwell make this work and we can’t ? Motherwell have about 3500 members I believe. 
 

If you go back a few years to the BTB initiative that didn't come to fruition, apart from prospective Patrons, some 800 or so others had intimated an interest to pledge within an instant. At that time i circulated "The Appeal" from BTB to many friends / work mates in my address book, and i know a Bolton Fan, West Ham Fan, and Leeds Fan ( All work mates ) and two relations who never attend games but see Falkirk as their football team that were prepared to " Sign Up" 

I think the BTB call at the time had more bite to it, than the current FSS

I believe it is from people not 100% into the club that an increase in numbers could come from. Fans family members. Friends elsewhere in UK and abroad who look out for Falkirk's result.

Look at the numbers locally who give a monthly donation to Strathcarron, that probably have little or no association with the Charity. They do it as they see it as a local organisation worth supporting financially on a small scale. 

 

 

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Hoping to start a bit of a distraction from all the chat going on here.

 

I'm personally quite worried about the next month or so as I can't see us beating Alloa 3 times in such a small amount of time. Especially considering it's a Brian Rice side. Really need another striker in for a better chance at winning all 3 I think. Obviously very hypothetical, but if offered, would people be happy with losing in the cup but taking 6 points from them in the league?

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2 minutes ago, SouthStander1876 said:

Hoping to start a bit of a distraction from all the chat going on here.

 

I'm personally quite worried about the next month or so as I can't see us beating Alloa 3 times in such a small amount of time. Especially considering it's a Brian Rice side. Really need another striker in for a better chance at winning all 3 I think. Obviously very hypothetical, but if offered, would people be happy with losing in the cup but taking 6 points from them in the league?

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i am a season ticket holder and i pay £20 a month to FSS. I am a big fan of people ownership and think it is going slowly but well. I like many others donate this money to the club i love but trust others to use it wisely which i feel is happening at present. People like me dont want to OWN the club but merely want to see us winning games of football which for the time being is generally happening

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14 minutes ago, Long Suffering Bairn said:

I hope we sign someone today so we can temporarily talk about football.

If you listen to McGlynns post match interview on Saturday from about the five minute mark, he goes into detail with the issues they're having. Reading between the lines of what he said, I got the impression that signings are more likely to happen towards the end of the window rather than the middle. 

Not that it stops folk tweeting the club every day asking for signings, as if that will make a difference. 🙈

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16 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

There’s a match thread for the Alloa game over in the Cups forum.

I realise funding is an important issue.   I have no money so can't contribute to the club.  I can't even afford to go to games anymore and that is not likely to change.  My priorities at the moment is keeping warm and buying food.   I am reduced to "watching" our games on BBC live text.  I fully accept this is no-one's fault other than mine, but I find it depressing seeing people talk about large sums of money while I am sitting here with no heating until 6pm.

I do hope we sign someone today, take my find of it for a little while.  Just ignore me, I guess I am feeling sorry for myself today.

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1 hour ago, Back Post Misses said:

Apathy ach someone else will sort, think they paying enough already, can’t afford, don’t believe in it, want my old mates back on the board ……

variety of reasons 

Family and personal finances are the main contributors to the take-up

Rightly so these are a priority in particular with people coming off the Electricity and Gas fixed deals and finding that outlay doubling and more throw into that job insecurity with the loss of employment protections caution is understandable. 

The take-up so far should not be looked on as disappointing

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5 minutes ago, Long Suffering Bairn said:

I realise funding is an important issue.   I have no money so can't contribute to the club.  I can't even afford to go to games anymore and that is not likely to change.  My priorities at the moment is keeping warm and buying food.   I am reduced to "watching" our games on BBC live text.  I fully accept this is no-one's fault other than mine, but I find it depressing seeing people talk about large sums of money while I am sitting here with no heating until 6pm.

I do hope we sign someone today, take my find of it for a little while.

On the topic of signings, I heard that Hearts are happy for Henderson to sign for Falkirk on loan, as well as a handful of other clubs, some in the Championship. I suspect the player is holding out to see what happens in regards to other clubs coming in for him.

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8 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

If you listen to McGlynns post match interview on Saturday from about the five minute mark, he goes into detail with the issues they're having. Reading between the lines of what he said, I got the impression that signings are more likely to happen towards the end of the window rather than the middle. 

Not that it stops folk tweeting the club every day asking for signings, as if that will make a difference. 🙈

@Bainsfordbairn show us the pen.

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29 minutes ago, Roboccop said:

Noone other than members of the Patrons group have been willing to stand for the Fan Director positions.
 

In my personal view n the long term I would like someone with a different background to stand ( this is absolutely not a criticism of the current fan directors who are working hard behind the scenes) but despite actively asking such people none was willing to stand for the positions. 
 

You can’t change things if no one is willing to take on the work. And our current directors are doing well. 

I thought the most recent director was not a patron? Or is he? 

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32 minutes ago, Long Suffering Bairn said:

I realise funding is an important issue.   I have no money so can't contribute to the club.  I can't even afford to go to games anymore and that is not likely to change.  My priorities at the moment is keeping warm and buying food.   I am reduced to "watching" our games on BBC live text.  I fully accept this is no-one's fault other than mine, but I find it depressing seeing people talk about large sums of money while I am sitting here with no heating until 6pm.

I do hope we sign someone today, take my find of it for a little while.  Just ignore me, I guess I am feeling sorry for myself today.

Really sorry to hear, I know there might be more important things to think about but I am sure the club have a fund to help people getting tickets for games if it's not something they can afford. I donated to this fund when I bought my season ticket so I know it exists and think it's still in action. If it's something you look forward to and would like to attend maybe worth sending an email? 

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14 hours ago, Duncan Freemason said:

Or perhaps some sort of study to better understand where our overheads sit amongst those of our competitors. We have been unable to best several L1 clubs these past few years all of whom operate on half or less of our turnover.

Now the Launderers might not be the perfect example, but other than that which goes unspoken, how is it a club with a core support of 800 (on a good day) outperform us with monotonous regularity. Like us, they occupy an ostensibly council owned facility, but pay rent on a sliding scale depending on what league they are in (in the top flight, it’s peppercorn, in the lower leagues, it’s half of sod all). All this in exchange for providing the good people on their council with a nice hospitality box.

They have a Trust that puts in less than £2k per season…..they have nothing like FSS.

We seem to be stuck with massive overheads. Doubtless there are reasons why.

 

2 hours ago, Shodwall cat said:

The big reason livi are ahead of us isn't just finance though it's recruitment it's as simple as that. Whoever handles it is lightyears ahead of what we've been like over the past 4 or 5 years. They sign good players and sell a number on for very decent sums of money which can then be reinvested.  Lyndon dykes for instance they got a fortune in for him and will no doubt get a wad of cash for nouble.  If our recruitment had been half as good we wouldn't be struggling in league one.

Re the financial part of things, one key aspect of the club which has changed is our level of sponsorship. Time was our name was mud, and rightly so, among the local and wider business community due to spectacular financial mismanagement. We now have a dedicated Business/Commercial manager who has helped ensure that we have lots of really good sponsorship deals.

Re the recruitment side, the manager has a good record of finding gems but almost as importantly, he isn't slow in getting rid of dead wood/disruptive influences. If a player says they want to leave (i.e Shaun Byrne), steps out of line (i.e Scott Robinson) or a mixture of the two (Anthony Stokes), then no matter how they are performing or their standing in the dressing room he will get rid pronto.

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47 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said:

Family and personal finances are the main contributors to the take-up

Rightly so these are a priority in particular with people coming off the Electricity and Gas fixed deals and finding that outlay doubling and more throw into that job insecurity with the loss of employment protections caution is understandable. 

The take-up so far should not be looked on as disappointing

Of course it is disappointing. Tops 15% of the support is rubbish 

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