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I was recently given a fairly comprehensive insight into the working of the Commercial Dept under KK and as a very experienced (old) Sales Manager what I heard was disgraceful.

KK left before he was punted in my opinion, no systems in place or structure to his activities.

Utterly unprofessional and the new Commercial Manager has a job and a half on his hands just to clear up the mess he is inheriting.

Best of luck to the lad and the new assistants.

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3 hours ago, Ranaldo Bairn said:

No. I don't. The benefits of artificial far outweigh any negatives.

I'm surprised I would've thought in a perfect world we'd all want to see the side playing on grass.🤷

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2 hours ago, FFC 1876 said:

Well if true I'm happy with that as he's definitely not worth over 1k a week. Henderson's a good signing especially getting him to drop down a league, Donaldson I'm more on the fence with but I like the fact the scum were raging he wasn't staying there especially considering they've just been relegated, he must've shown something. PJ's proved he's got what it takes to be a good keeper at this level and I reckon we'll most likely see another keeper in to challenge him for the starting jersey.

I'm sure someone said the players were due back for preseason next week so we'll hopefully see a few more signings before then

Hopefully the price of the hybrid pitches will become more reasonable over time as technology moves on.

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1 hour ago, Reggie Perrin said:

I was recently given a fairly comprehensive insight into the working of the Commercial Dept under KK and as a very experienced (old) Sales Manager what I heard was disgraceful.

KK left before he was punted in my opinion, no systems in place or structure to his activities.

Utterly unprofessional and the new Commercial Manager has a job and a half on his hands just to clear up the mess he is inheriting.

Best of luck to the lad and the new assistants.

Always wondered why the “eject seat” happened with him. All fits into place now. As said good luck to all the new guys on board. It’s going to be a very difficult year, let’s hope JM can build a decent first eleven as it’s increasingly like we’ve starting with one hand tied down.

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3 hours ago, ShaggerG said:

Can't see us ever returning to grass unless we somehow manage to get very rich.

We were told last night that the major beef McGlynn and Smith have with plastic is that it takes players, especially older ones, longer to return from injury if they're having to train on plastic every day. Sheerin and Miller apparently made the very same comment. Artificial pitches per se don't cause injuries but can make the recovery time longer so the aim is to source a grass facility elsewhere that can be used for training. That will mean that players will only be playing on plastic once a fortnight. (Well it'll be nearer once a week due to the number of teams in L1 with artificial but you get what I mean). Add to that, the fact that the pitch won't be required for training, will free up more time for use by the public, which means more revenue so I don't see a return to grass any time soon.

On the David Lapsley thing, TBF to him he did say at one point that the money from BFL would be used to install grass 'with the permission of the members' however he did also say something along the lines of 'this is what will happen as long as I'm in charge'. Can't remember the exact specifics. Guy at the back soon put his gas at a peep anyway saying that only the BOD should be allowed to make such decisions.

Pity there is no Bleachfield !

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6 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Hopefully the price of the hybrid pitches will become more reasonable over time as technology moves on.

Not sure that hybrid can be the “revolution” that some desire, especially in climates like Scotland. While “cheaper” than a synthetic surface, that doesn’t take into account a few issues. Converting a fully synthetic surface into a hybrid one is extremely expensive, as the hybrid materials/fibres are actually only about 5% of the surface.

You need a base for a high quality, natural pitch to support a hybrid pitch properly, and then add some particular maintenance requirements to avoid the surface becoming worse than a cheap plastic pitch over the season (the fibres tend to Matt down and become entangled and covered by the natural grass). Also, hybrid pitches are no better than a natural surface in near freezing/freezing temperatures, or on dealing with rain/snow.

You do gain between 50% and 125% more playing hours per year over a natural surface, but that’s unlikely to be a useful result at these levels…especially as that level of usage demands additional care (at additional cost).

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2 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

Good grass > good astro > shite grass > shite astro

I agree. All things being equal financially I'd have grass every day.

I prefer watching football on grass and the eco warrior in me doesn't want to see more plastic in the world where a living thing should be. everytime I see someone with plastic grass in their garden my heart dies a little 

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1 hour ago, ebobsboy said:

You'd hope Wilson, Sneddon and Holt jnr will get punted out on loan somewhere. Getting rid of the rest will be difficult. 

 

The contracted players if they have sense will come back in good condition and impress. McGynn is nobodies mug and will have them told its a fresh start for them all. You never know some might just surprise us all after all it cant have been easy with last seasons management.

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6 minutes ago, bridge of allan bairn said:

I agree. All things being equal financially I'd have grass every day.

I prefer watching football on grass and the eco warrior in me doesn't want to see more plastic in the world where a living thing should be. everytime I see someone with plastic grass in their garden my heart dies a little 

Should get their gardens taken off them imo.

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6 minutes ago, bridge of allan bairn said:

I agree. All things being equal financially I'd have grass every day.

I prefer watching football on grass and the eco warrior in me doesn't want to see more plastic in the world where a living thing should be. everytime I see someone with plastic grass in their garden my heart dies a little 

Yeah totally agree. The circle that must be squared for us tho is that good grass is top of the tree. But you can't have good grass and make money from it. 

Shite grass and shite astro are both terrible for football AND making money, which leaves good astro as the sensible solution for a club who can have afford to have good grass. 

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5 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said:

The contracted players if they have sense will come back in good condition and impress. McGynn is nobodies mug and will have them told its a fresh start for them all. You never know some might just surprise us all after all it cant have been easy with last seasons management.

Some might but Wilson won't not now not ever. 

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Renewed our season tickets this morning at the club shop. Steady stream of punters doing the same which was great to see. 

Online sales/renewals from next week but shop is open tomorrow for those local too. 

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I’ll renew once the online sales start.

I wonder where the club are looking at to set up a new training base. This was mentioned last night and they said they hoped to find somewhere that could accommodate all age groups. Thinking locally the only place I could think of with such a set up was Little Kerse. Not sure if that’s an option though as I’m pretty sure when we left there the last time it was not on good terms with the owner, could be wrong though.

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4 minutes ago, Harry Kinnear said:

I’ll renew once the online sales start.

I wonder where the club are looking at to set up a new training base. This was mentioned last night and they said they hoped to find somewhere that could accommodate all age groups. Thinking locally the only place I could think of with such a set up was Little Kerse. Not sure if that’s an option though as I’m pretty sure when we left there the last time it was not on good terms with the owner, could be wrong though.

New owner now. Now owned and run by a well known Falkirk fan so could see it happening. 

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5 hours ago, LatapyBairn. said:

That’s an absolutely horrendous state of affairs if true and an abuse of the fans/members trust in the set up, it isn’t being run as a democratic members organisation. Unless things change people paying they’re money every month should be made aware of this and perhaps transfer membership and direct debits over to the FSS which is obviously fully democratic. We don’t need more people involved who treat the fans money and our club as they’re own personal play thing, if you want to play the big man and make demands on the club without consulting the fans/members who raised the cash then don’t take they’re money trying to play the big shot.  Walk the walk yourself, let’s see the colour of your own personal cash to fund it. 

Whole raft of folk ready to leave B4L for the reasons you've stated above. Self inflicted due to one man's ego. Absolutely no consultation with the membership no wonder they're leaving. 

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4 minutes ago, Syd Puddefoot said:

Whole raft of folk ready to leave B4L for the reasons you've stated above. Self inflicted due to one man's ego. Absolutely no consultation with the membership no wonder they're leaving. 

I’d rather my £10 was going Into FSS at the moment than B4l after last night.

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7 minutes ago, gav-ffc said:

I’d rather my £10 was going Into FSS at the moment than B4l after last night.

I’m with you on this. Been with B4L for a long time but not interested in contributing towards grass seed. 

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