The Falkirk FC Thread

[Shadwell Dog]

11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Well get better then? It's hardly unfair that shit teams don't get promoted m8, the last thing anyone wants is some Brechin-esque side finding themselves in the top flight and getting rinsed 10-0, enough clubs get hammered by the Old Firm as it is.

You're asking teams to get better before you give them the cash to be able to do that. It should be a straight two up two down and that should be it. If it has to be playoffs then it should be a similar format to that in England with the two teams who've had awful seasons relegated and the ones that have had successful seasons playing it off to join the champs. The standard of the championship club at that point means nothing. The clubs that go up then have the extra cash to use to improve their squads to play in the top flight. It's not what their team is like at the end of that championship campaign that's important it's what it's like at the start of the next premiership campaign surely. If st Johnstone with their budget advantage  can't beat Inverness over two legs with the second leg in Perth then there's something far wrong.

[GeordieBairn]

Both the Quitongo brothers racially abused in one season? Airdrie hitting new lows.

[bairn88]

9 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

You're asking teams to get better before you give them the cash to be able to do that. It should be a straight two up two down and that should be it. If it has to be playoffs then it should be a similar format to that in England with the two teams who've had awful seasons relegated and the ones that have had successful seasons playing it off to join the champs. The standard of the championship club at that point means nothing. The clubs that go up then have the extra cash to use to improve their squads to play in the top flight. It's not what their team is like at the end of that championship campaign that's important it's what it's like at the start of the next premiership campaign surely. If st Johnstone with their budget advantage  can't beat Inverness over two legs with the second leg in Perth then there's something far wrong.

Why should it? I’d rather have the playoff system, keeps the league interesting for almost every team. Aye, it’s maybe a bit weighted to the prem team, but all playoff systems have a tinge of “unfairness”. As random guy says, it’s not like the prem team have an automatic win. From memory Hamilton, Dundee and Livingston have been worthy winners from the champ. Just cos we bottled our final v killie doesn’t mean other teams have to. 

[HopeStreetWalker]

11 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

You're asking teams to get better before you give them the cash to be able to do that. It should be a straight two up two down and that should be it. If it has to be playoffs then it should be a similar format to that in England with the two teams who've had awful seasons relegated and the ones that have had successful seasons playing it off to join the champs. The standard of the championship club at that point means nothing. The clubs that go up then have the extra cash to use to improve their squads to play in the top flight. It's not what their team is like at the end of that championship campaign that's important it's what it's like at the start of the next premiership campaign surely. If st Johnstone with their budget advantage  can't beat Inverness over two legs with the second leg in Perth then there's something far wrong.

Sounds fair they should also look at increasing the size of the leagues and the teams in each league to let more new clubs chance. About time the format was given a freshen up.

[Aufc]

I see it looks like Airdrie have been up to their usual behaviour. More racial and sectarian abuse being claimed by jai quitongo . 

I addressed this in the play off thread.

Rico quitongo said he was racially abused. He refused to play whilst this was looked at. There was no evidence found and everyone in the supposed area said nothing was said. He then continued to refuse to play and eventually left. His brother also chimed in despite no evidence.

His brother then subsequently said that he suffered racial and sectarian abuse on Thursday. Nothing was mentioned at the time and, again, no evidence found. He only mentioned after todays game. It is hard not to question the character of someone where there is factual evidence of him hitting his wife and also throwing homophobic abuse about.

I know there is a section of airdrie fans that can be idiots. Almost all football teams have them. However, in this instance, it seems it is fashionable to jump on a bandwagon and crucify airdrie fans despite there no evidence to suggest it has happened.

[Shadwell Dog]

10 minutes ago, bairn88 said:

Why should it? I’d rather have the playoff system, keeps the league interesting for almost every team. Aye, it’s maybe a bit weighted to the prem team, but all playoff systems have a tinge of “unfairness”. As random guy says, it’s not like the prem team have an automatic win. From memory Hamilton, Dundee and Livingston have been worthy winners from the champ. Just cos we bottled our final v killie doesn’t mean other teams have to. 

If it has to be a playoff then have it like the English playoffs then. No need to involve a team from the top flight . Have the champ winners promoted and the next 4 play off to replace the second bottom side.  

Hamilton and livi is one thing but Dundee probably spent more cash than Killie they replaced so it's ok for clubs who want to fling money at their sides.

[Shadwell Dog]

8 minutes ago, Aufc said:

I addressed this in the play off thread.

Rico quitongo said he was racially abused. He refused to play whilst this was looked at. There was no evidence found and everyone in the supposed area said nothing was said. He then continued to refuse to play and eventually left. His brother also chimed in despite no evidence.

His brother then subsequently said that he suffered racial and sectarian abuse on Thursday. Nothing was mentioned at the time and, again, no evidence found. He only mentioned after todays game. It is hard not to question the character of someone where there is factual evidence of him hitting his wife and also throwing homophobic abuse about.

I know there is a section of airdrie fans that can be idiots. Almost all football teams have them. However, in this instance, it seems it is fashionable to jump on a bandwagon and crucify airdrie fans despite there no evidence to suggest it has happened.

Why would you refuse to play over something that hadn't happened though?  It's a bit much having  to move  a shite side like Peterhead from a decent side like Airdrie because you make up claims of racial abuse. Doesn't make sense. I guess the employment tribunal will uncover the reasons whenever it takes place.

Edited May 15, 2022 by Shadwell Dog

[Aufc]

Why would you refuse to play over something that hadn't happened though?  It's a bit much having  to move  a shite side like Peterhead from a decent side like Airdrie because you make up claims of racial abuse. Doesn't make sense.

There could be a multitude of reasons for him doing it. Despite what people think, most airdrie fans would be horrified if something had been said and would have been happy to shop the guilty party. Presume he moved to peterhead because they were the only club that wanted him.

As I said, it’s hard not to question the character of them both. Apparently they both punt gear as well alongside their other misdemeanours

[Springfield]

5 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

If it has to be a playoff then have it like the English playoffs then. No need to involve a team from the top flight . Have the champ winners promoted and the next 4 play off to replace the second bottom side.  

Hamilton and livi is one thing but Dundee probably spent more cash than Killie they replaced so it's ok for clubs who want to fling money at their sides.

Dundee ? Deserve all the shite on the way down. Shower of liars and how they got away with their actions on the vote last year should have been a criminal offence. 

[Shadwell Dog]

Just now, Aufc said:

There could be a multitude of reasons for him doing it. Despite what people think, most airdrie fans would be horrified if something had been said and would have been happy to shop the guilty party. Presume he moved to peterhead because they were the only club that wanted him.

As I said, it’s hard not to question the character of them both. Apparently they both punt gear as well alongside their other misdemeanours

Seems to be taking it all the way with this tribunal mind you. 

[Shadwell Dog]

Just now, Springfield said:

Dundee ? Deserve all the shite on the way down. Shower of liars and how they got away with their actions on the vote last year should have been a criminal offence. 

I was pointing out that last season they had flung money at their side to get up so probably had a bigger budget than Killie. Most seasons though that will be far from the case.

[Aufc]

Seems to be taking it all the way with this tribunal mind you. 

Yeah seems so. They don’t really seem like the nicest characters. One of my assumptions would be a monetary thing based on the lack of evidence

[RandomGuy.]

1 hour ago, Shadwell Dog said:

You're asking teams to get better before you give them the cash to be able to do that. It should be a straight two up two down and that should be it. If it has to be playoffs then it should be a similar format to that in England with the two teams who've had awful seasons relegated and the ones that have had successful seasons playing it off to join the champs. 

The English Championship doesn't give teams in mid-table the chance to get promoted. Remove 4th from the discussuon, make it 2nd v 3rd and they replace 11th, for me that's the fairest way if the play offs stay, which I think they should.

Multiple teams in the top flight have had to work up there with worse prize money than Championship sides get now. Hamilton and Livingston have tiny budgets yet both got promoted and spent years in the top flight.

[latapythelegend]

Aarron Muirhead rejecting a contract at Ayr. Would take him back.

[Shadwell Dog]

26 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

The English Championship doesn't give teams in mid-table the chance to get promoted. Remove 4th from the discussuon, make it 2nd v 3rd and they replace 11th, for me that's the fairest way if the play offs stay, which I think they should.

Multiple teams in the top flight have had to work up there with worse prize money than Championship sides get now. Hamilton and Livingston have tiny budgets yet both got promoted and spent years in the top flight.

Yes you do get that case that sometimes a second bottom top flight club is that bad they lose out to the championship club.  Basically it should be two down every season. That we agree on. Just depends on how you want to choose the teams below.

[JulioBairn]

12 minutes ago, latapythelegend said:

Aarron Muirhead rejecting a contract at Ayr. Would take him back.

Absolutely fucking not. A shocking footballer. 

[Springfield]

11 minutes ago, latapythelegend said:

Aarron Muirhead rejecting a contract at Ayr. Would take him back.

Hard hat on - yes, he wasn’t the most gifted but didn’t let many get the better of him. Great PK in him, pity he switched off more than often…

[GeordieBairn]

4 minutes ago, JulioBairn said:

Absolutely fucking not. A shocking footballer. 

Would be a big upgrade on our current options

[Bairnardo]

Think he's going to Partick

[Shadwell Dog]

3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Think he's going to Partick

Christ. Not much of an upgrade on McKenna apart from his pens. 

Amazing to think that queen's park have been promoted despite winning less games in the league  than our dross this season. 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Shadwell Dog