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I don't suppose there's any way we can replace the pitch this summer? I know moving to a hybrid surface is favoured, but I'm sure when we put down the current pitch we were told replacing it with a new plastic one would be an easy process due to the various substrate layers already being in place.
If that could be carried out this summer I would do it. Our injury record over the last 18 months has been shocking. 
Especially important when some of the better players we may be able to attract is exactly because they are already 'injury prone'. It's going to be a much tougher league this season so we should be trying to give ourselves every advantage we can

Can ANYONE actually explain what the problem is with an artificial surface that’s been used for a few years?
I watched Arbroath v ICT last night and a player ballooned the ball over the bar due to a bobble on the grass surface. Yet no-one complains that it’s desperately time to replace the grass surface (even though it is).
I can’t remember watching a game at TFS and thinking if we had a better surface we might have scored there or that a player wouldn’t have tripped and got injured due to the pitch specifically. I can on grass surfaces though.
Given our alleged financial predicament, I can think of better uses for cash whilst in the third tier playing teams with tinpot surfaces….
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3 minutes ago, roman_bairn said:


Can ANYONE actually explain what the problem is with an artificial surface that’s been used for a few years?
I watched Arbroath v ICT last night and a player ballooned the ball over the bar due to a bobble on the grass surface. Yet no-one complains that it’s desperately time to replace the grass surface (even though it is).
I can’t remember watching a game at TFS and thinking if we had a better surface we might have scored there or that a player wouldn’t have tripped and got injured due to the pitch specifically. I can on grass surfaces though.
Given our alleged financial predicament, I can think of better uses for cash whilst in the third tier playing teams with tinpot surfaces….

Agree with this 

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5 minutes ago, roman_bairn said:


Can ANYONE actually explain what the problem is with an artificial surface that’s been used for a few years?
I watched Arbroath v ICT last night and a player ballooned the ball over the bar due to a bobble on the grass surface. Yet no-one complains that it’s desperately time to replace the grass surface (even though it is).
I can’t remember watching a game at TFS and thinking if we had a better surface we might have scored there or that a player wouldn’t have tripped and got injured due to the pitch specifically. I can on grass surfaces though.
Given our alleged financial predicament, I can think of better uses for cash whilst in the third tier playing teams with tinpot surfaces….

Plus Shane Sutherland absolutely fucked his knee on a grass surface with nobody near him.

Nobody mentioned getting rid of grass pitches as a result.

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8 minutes ago, roman_bairn said:

Can ANYONE actually explain what the problem is with an artificial surface that’s been used for a few years?

It's a lot harder than it was when new, causing more jarring on the body when you run on  it.  

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13 hours ago, Bigbri Bairn said:

Arbroath v ICT
120 minutes of my life I won't get back. DIRE

Both teams would fuck Falkirk so hard the club wouldn’t be walking right for about 2 years.

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It's a lot harder than it was when new, causing more jarring on the body when you run on  it.  

If you ask me the question do I think an artificial pitch can contribute to injuries, my answer would be yes.
HOWEVER,
if you asked me whether a grass or artificial surface is more likely to contribute to injuries, I’d say grass every single time.
Too many jumping on the same ill thought-through bandwagon….
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Thought the interview was a bit of a ramble tbh. It’s obvious to me that camera or public speaking is not his forte. However that aside I do not give a flying f£ck as long as he shows an improvement in the football, the mentality and most of all desire and fight.

His interview was the usual play on advertising ST sales, blowing smoke, rah rah rah etc. I think some of his charismatic deficiencies can be overlooked as he is our experienced FOOTBALL MANAGER and I wish him the best for a good season ahead and hope the fans stay with him, give him a chance to get his feet under the table and reinstate his own culture and belief into our club.

Welcome John MyGlynn.

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7 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Both teams would f**k Falkirk so hard the club wouldn’t be walking right for about 2 years.

I don’t think he mentioned that Falkirk were better than either ICT or Arbroath. We know we are not. He quite rightly said it was an appalling game of football to watch and you’d get very few people that would say otherwise.

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Both teams would fuck Falkirk so hard the club wouldn’t be walking right for about 2 years.

Both teams looked distinctly average compared to teams in play offs in prior seasons.
Next seasons clear relegation favourites if they do get past St Johnstone……
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32 minutes ago, roman_bairn said:


Can ANYONE actually explain what the problem is with an artificial surface that’s been used for a few years?
I watched Arbroath v ICT last night and a player ballooned the ball over the bar due to a bobble on the grass surface. Yet no-one complains that it’s desperately time to replace the grass surface (even though it is).
I can’t remember watching a game at TFS and thinking if we had a better surface we might have scored there or that a player wouldn’t have tripped and got injured due to the pitch specifically. I can on grass surfaces though.
Given our alleged financial predicament, I can think of better uses for cash whilst in the third tier playing teams with tinpot surfaces….

My understanding unless it is maintained properly (not saying ours wasn’t) it flattens and compacts. Also believe that under the carpet it compacts and you get parts of the surface harder that other bits so bounce becomes variable. Add to the fact it is played on a Good few hours everyday it does wear out. 

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3 minutes ago, roman_bairn said:


Both teams looked distinctly average compared to teams in play offs in prior seasons.
Next seasons clear relegation favourites if they do get past St Johnstone……

Aye but if we go up we will be able to sign better players.  We won’t do a Dundee and keep our Championship quality squad.

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My understanding unless it is maintained properly (not saying ours wasn’t) it flattens and compacts. Also believe that under the carpet it compacts and you get parts of the surface harder that other bits so bounce becomes variable. Add to the fact it is played on a Good few hours everyday it does wear out. 

Thanks for clarifying.
I’d still question whether we are at a stage where this needs to be up amongst our highest priorities for now…..
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Both teams would fuck Falkirk so hard the club wouldn’t be walking right for about 2 years.
This logic would prohibit all of us pointing and laughing when the ugly sisters humiliate themselves.

So with that, I'm afraid your contribution there has to be dismissed as nonsense.
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8 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

This logic would prohibit all of us pointing and laughing when the ugly sisters humiliate themselves.

So with that, I'm afraid your contribution there has to be dismissed as nonsense.

No it wouldn’t, brother. 

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39 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Both teams would f**k Falkirk so hard the club wouldn’t be walking right for about 2 years.

With Brad Mckay at the heart of the defence I don't consider that a decent brag.

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1 minute ago, FFC 1876 said:

With Brad Mckay at the heart of the defence I don't consider that a decent brag.

Excellent shout.

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43 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Both teams would f**k Falkirk so hard the club wouldn’t be walking right for about 2 years.

Are Arbroath without nouble much better than they've been the last two seasons? Is it not just the same players in the majority?

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The interview was good and informative.  What we've had for several years now is just words, words and more words from directors, chairman,  managers players etc etc. Aye , just more words from McGlynn, but the marked difference us that he's been there, done it , knows the league and the players and what is required,  so in that respect gives us some cause for optimism. The bod statement of everyone needing to pull together and do their bit is spot on. Difficult for some folk though as they seem hell bent on criticising at every turn instead of trying to help us out of this mess.

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1 minute ago, Syd Puddefoot said:

The interview was good and informative.  What we've had for several years now is just words, words and more words from directors, chairman,  managers players etc etc. Aye , just more words from McGlynn, but the marked difference us that he's been there, done it , knows the league and the players and what is required,  so in that respect gives us some cause for optimism. The bod statement of everyone needing to pull together and do their bit is spot on. Difficult for some folk though as they seem hell bent on criticising at every turn instead of trying to help us out of this mess.

Looking forward to the open meeting in June as I understand all questions will be answered honestly.

Not a good look for a new BOD to be slagging off the old one but if the right questions are asked it might be very illuminating.

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3 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Are Arbroath without nouble much better than they've been the last two seasons? Is it not just the same players in the majority?

Still a fair few of their players that would walk into our team, again though that's not much of a brag.

Wighton, Hamilton x2, O'Brien, Low, Henderson, Mckenna.

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