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31 minutes ago, gav-ffc said:

He also inherited the majority of that ICT team from butcher.

Only 2 players that won the cup and finished 3rd were signed by Hughes. Greg Tansey (who was actually signed by Butcher before but left and came back) and Eddie Ofere.

Edit - Tarmo Kink too but he played about 2 games for us.

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Houston's team didn't run out of steam. He never had sufficient backing by the board to replace key players who had left.

The collapse in a matter of a couple of months from the previous season can hardly just be put down to not bringing in new players although it certainly didn’t help…
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I don’t think I’ve claimed that Latapy didn’t have influence.
The question is whether Hughes was a good manager for Falkirk. I maintain he was for the majority of his tenure…..

And for for the majority of the period of Hughes’s success Latapy was there.
Hughes’s was fucking lucky
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Any revisionism on Yogi is ridiculous tbh. I’m 23 years old, I’ve not seen anything better than what Hughes offered. It was exciting and progressive at the time. He might not be pulling trees up for other clubs but for us he was brilliant. 

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41 minutes ago, Maverick_- said:

Any revisionism on Yogi is ridiculous tbh. I’m 23 years old, I’ve not seen anything better than what Hughes offered. It was exciting and progressive at the time. He might not be pulling trees up for other clubs but for us he was brilliant. 

No one, certainly not me anyway, is saying anything other than he did a great job. My argument is that when Latapy went the club went backwards. That pattern was the same at ICT and he has struggled everywhere else without him. It of course may just be coincidence 

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Every season under Hughes our record between the turn of the year and the split was absolutely awful mainly due to latapy struggling in the cold weather and heavy pitches. 

Housties recruitment year on year was poor in the main unfortunately. The team regressed continually  due to this and was going to struggle eventually. When you are replacing the likes of vaulks with an absolute diddy in John Rankin and the likes of Alston with Alex Harris then you are going to have major problems. Yes you can't replace with the same quality but you need to do a lot better than that. Him announcing his retirement and Rory Loy turning into Jaime Wilson created the perfect storm unfortunately.

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14 hours ago, Duncan Freemason said:

Should be the most competitive league in the country next season. I would imagine the Fifers will be favourites, and we (like our league standing)will be fifth or sixth favourite behind Montrose, QotS one of Airdrie and QotS, and maybe even Kelty too.

Very happy for us to be rank outsiders.

You'll be sick of the sight of QotS next year, what with the 8 league games against them...

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Falkirk fans slagging off Yogi and Houston who were not only great players but great managers is incredibly sad, especially when you see what we've been served up on both playing and managing fronts in the last few years.

And on the latapy front, one of the most gifted players I've watched, I remember several guys round me in the stadium frothing at the mouth because he was too slow, lazy and didn't track back!

our fans continue to do it to this day. sometimes I think we deserve what we get

utterly hacks me off legends getting slagged with the same old stuff. 

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Just now, bridge of allan bairn said:

Falkirk fans slagging off Yogi and Houston who were not only great players but great managers is incredibly sad, especially when you see what we've been served up on both playing and managing fronts in the last few years.

And on the latapy front, one of the most gifted players I've watched, I remember several guys round me in the stadium frothing at the mouth because he was too slow, lazy and didn't track back!

our fans continue to do it to this day. sometimes I think we deserve what we get

utterly hacks me off legends getting slagged with the same old stuff. 

Theres loads of folk at the games who you just need to tune out. A good place to start is those who start moaning like f**k the second a pass goes sideways or back.

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9 minutes ago, bridge of allan bairn said:

Falkirk fans slagging off Yogi and Houston who were not only great players but great managers is incredibly sad, especially when you see what we've been served up on both playing and managing fronts in the last few years.

And on the latapy front, one of the most gifted players I've watched, I remember several guys round me in the stadium frothing at the mouth because he was too slow, lazy and didn't track back!

our fans continue to do it to this day. sometimes I think we deserve what we get

utterly hacks me off legends getting slagged with the same old stuff. 

They both did great jobs and I'm sure Hughes managerially would be seen in a better light by many if he hadn't hawked himself about to other clubs in his last year or so and then spat the dummy out when we quite rightly wouldn't let him go to Hibs for nothing. Houstie was great tactically and excellent at getting more out of other people's signings but surprisingly enough for someone who worked as a scout his own recruitment was dire.  Latapy great player and a joy to watch bit did struggle in the winter months. No surprise his worst season was the dreadful stenny one when the pitch turned into a quagmire with two sides playing on it. Great memories of all 3 .

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14 minutes ago, bridge of allan bairn said:

Falkirk fans slagging off Yogi and Houston who were not only great players but great managers is incredibly sad, especially when you see what we've been served up on both playing and managing fronts in the last few years.

And on the latapy front, one of the most gifted players I've watched, I remember several guys round me in the stadium frothing at the mouth because he was too slow, lazy and didn't track back!

our fans continue to do it to this day. sometimes I think we deserve what we get

utterly hacks me off legends getting slagged with the same old stuff. 

Don't think anybody is slagging them as such. 

Yogi left us in a bad way despite a few years of success and Houstie over achieved before the players essentially downed tools on him. That doesn't take away from what they achieved as players or as managers when it was deserved. 

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26 minutes ago, bridge of allan bairn said:

Falkirk fans slagging off Yogi and Houston who were not only great players but great managers is incredibly sad, especially when you see what we've been served up on both playing and managing fronts in the last few years.

And on the latapy front, one of the most gifted players I've watched, I remember several guys round me in the stadium frothing at the mouth because he was too slow, lazy and didn't track back!

our fans continue to do it to this day. sometimes I think we deserve what we get

utterly hacks me off legends getting slagged with the same old stuff. 

Agreed - even as players they must have upwards of 500 appearances between the 3 of them.

Deserve some respect for that alone.

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15 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

Couple of big crowds next season against Dunfermline. It will be a good boost to the coffers that! 

Their support is fickle, you only need look at the empty spaces yesterday in a huge game for them. 

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My issue with Hughes as a manager with us at the end was all down to how he handled his want for a bigger job.

Great player and had some amazing times as a manager, however he tinged it badly at the end.

I have no issue with any manager wanting to improve and move on, his way was crass imo from the way he and his agent acted.

There was nothing professional in the way it was paraded through the media from them and his inflated ego against our club.

Now with, I think, three clubs relegated, I’m glad & I doubt that we will have to stomach his stubbornness again.

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