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5 minutes ago, Springfield said:

If it’s Murray we’re after, It would make sense that we’ve also sounded out some of the players. 

Not sure of his contract situation but if we got Murray as manager I’d want Dylan Easton as number 1 target as long as he’s one of the full time players at Airdrie and doesn’t have a decent job outside football. 

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1 hour ago, gav-ffc said:

Not sure of his contract situation but if we got Murray as manager I’d want Dylan Easton as number 1 target as long as he’s one of the full time players at Airdrie and doesn’t have a decent job outside football. 

Easton even as a part time player would be a significant upgrade on what we have now.

Re Mutch. He does have howlers, but some great saves too. The one thing he deserves credit for is that he actually gives a toss.

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2 hours ago, Hampden Roar said:

You can’t do that with managers, players yeah, if he’s under contract you have to seek permission 1st. If a club has a whiff that we’re “discussing” then it’s Morton mk2, 

Come on anyone that thinks that these days chats between clubs and managers doesn't go on is very naive.  We made an arse of it with McKinnon by doing it far too obviously.  If a manager is going to be out of contract in the summer he's going to make sure he has a job in place.

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2 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Come on anyone that thinks that these days chats between clubs and managers doesn't go on is very nieve.  We made an arse of it with McKinnon by doing it far too obviously. 

If the McKinnon truth ever surfaced, it would show that McKinnon tapped up FFC, but of course, with the cranially challenged on our side of things, it was perhaps always destined to end as it did.

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42 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

If the McKinnon truth ever surfaced, it would show that McKinnon tapped up FFC, but of course, with the cranially challenged on our side of things, it was perhaps always destined to end as it did.

Most of the truth did surface -> https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/images/shares/pdfs/Falkirk FC- decision of independent Tribunal.pdf

TL;DR : McKinnon wanted to leave Morton, his agent Jim Sherry wrongly (and recklessly) concluded he could do so immediately (as his agent Sherry had little to lose bar reputation), FFC did zero DD on McKInnons GMFC contract despite having a solicitor as Chairman and lo we were fined.  

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9 hours ago, FFC1965 said:

Most of the truth did surface -> https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/images/shares/pdfs/Falkirk FC- decision of independent Tribunal.pdf

TL;DR : McKinnon wanted to leave Morton, his agent Jim Sherry wrongly (and recklessly) concluded he could do so immediately (as his agent Sherry had little to lose bar reputation), FFC did zero DD on McKInnons GMFC contract despite having a solicitor as Chairman and lo we were fined.  

Interestingly Mckinnon’s evidence was “not sufficiently credible to rely upon”

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40 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:

Mutch to Cove, Dowds confirmed to Partick, Simon Murray on a pre contract, any other murmurs going around? 

Kenny Miller to get the Falkirk job and FVH  A&E to have 30 P&B regulars admitted for spontaneous combustion injuries on their exploding heads. 

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52 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:

Mutch to Cove, Dowds confirmed to Partick, Simon Murray on a pre contract, any other murmurs going around? 

So Murray isn't signing his own players then,  will Murray want Murray the old hibs connection, possibly...   

 

Eat about big yogi, would you take him....

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2 minutes ago, Passionate said:

So Murray isn't signing his own players then,  will Murray want Murray the old hibs connection, possibly...   

 

Eat about big yogi, would you take him....

What the hell is this meant to be?

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Just now, Ranaldo Bairn said:

What the hell is this meant to be?

Basically if I Murray is a done deal (rumoured to be). You would think he would want full control of any signings so if S Murray is signing (rumoured to be) you would hope your new manager is in on it, if not trouble ahead....(Both are massive hibees and played with the club).

 

 

I was asking if big Yogi would be on any managerial shortlist...... he could be a quicker turnaround manager than a very methodical baby step improvement manager in I Murray.....

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11 hours ago, FFC1965 said:

Most of the truth did surface -> https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/images/shares/pdfs/Falkirk FC- decision of independent Tribunal.pdf

TL;DR : McKinnon wanted to leave Morton, his agent Jim Sherry wrongly (and recklessly) concluded he could do so immediately (as his agent Sherry had little to lose bar reputation), FFC did zero DD on McKInnons GMFC contract despite having a solicitor as Chairman and lo we were fined.  

 

"By those actings of Mr Campbell it is clear to us that both Messrs McKinnon (and Taylor) were directly or indirectly induced, or attempted to be induced on behalf of Falkirk FC, without consent of Greenock Morton, to terminate their respective contracts of employment with a view to offering employment by Falkirk FC.""          

 

It's CraIg Campbell again. He could not have F*cked us over more if he was an undercover Dunfermline agent. He closed our academy, set us on a downward spiral of never ending jobbers with his shit Brentford Model, threatened to sue fans over copyright of the badge (which we didn't own), got us fined for tapping up a useless manager who was a total failure , accused us all of being racists, alleged he'd had death threats from fans.......etc etc.

He's the single biggest enemy in our history.....not Hartley, not Deans, not George Craig - no one else did more damage in such a short period of time.

 

 

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Not sure where the idea that Ian Murray is a done deal is coming from - given the kind of individual he seems to be, I’d imagine he’d have flat out told Falkirk he wouldn’t discuss anything until after the playoffs. 

Not saying they won’t have sounded him out, but that doesn’t mean he’s spoken to them about the role in any detail.

As things stand, he’s got a very good chance of managing a group of his own players, that he’s put together himself and has fostered a great spirit in over years, in the Championship. And, even if we don’t make it through the playoffs, whose to say the board won’t throw everything at it to keep the squad together? 

Ludicrous to suggest this is anywhere near ‘done’.

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1 minute ago, Hank von Hell said:

 

"By those actings of Mr Campbell it is clear to us that both Messrs McKinnon (and Taylor) were directly or indirectly induced, or attempted to be induced on behalf of Falkirk FC, without consent of Greenock Morton, to terminate their respective contracts of employment with a view to offering employment by Falkirk FC.""          

 

It's CraIg Campbell again. He could not have F*cked us over more if he was an undercover Dunfermline agent. He closed our academy, set us on a downward spiral of never ending jobbers with his shit Brentford Model, threatened to sue fans over copyright of the badge (which we didn't own), got us fined for tapping up a useless manager who was a total failure , accused us all of being racists, alleged he'd had death threats from fans.......etc etc.

He's the single biggest enemy in our history.....not Hartley, not Deans, not George Craig - no one else did more damage in such a short period of time.

 

Agree.  Though imho Lang was more to blame on this specific and calamitous issue.  GC was a banker and ML a solicitor so it was it was outrageous that ML didn't give McKInnons GMFC contract a once over - or get another solicitor to do so.

Any half decent NQ or even a trainee solicitor would have spotted that it was a fixed term contract that didnt allow McKinnon to walk away.   

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13 minutes ago, thediamonddude said:

Not sure where the idea that Ian Murray is a done deal is coming from - given the kind of individual he seems to be, I’d imagine he’d have flat out told Falkirk he wouldn’t discuss anything until after the playoffs. 

Not saying they won’t have sounded him out, but that doesn’t mean he’s spoken to them about the role in any detail.

As things stand, he’s got a very good chance of managing a group of his own players, that he’s put together himself and has fostered a great spirit in over years, in the Championship. And, even if we don’t make it through the playoffs, whose to say the board won’t throw everything at it to keep the squad together? 

Ludicrous to suggest this is anywhere near ‘done’.

That's this thread for you.

A few weeks ago it was "why would he ever come here", now it's a "done deal". No chance we've done any more than simply signal our intentions to him, given the McKinnon debacle, and no chance Murray has given it more than a moment's thought, given he's gearing up for playoffs with a real chance of getting through them this time. 

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John Hughes would be a terrible appointment

However, it is exactly the kind of appointment a board made up of old Falkirk fans trying to bring back the glory days would make.

Airdrie have played some of the best football I've seen over the last couple of seasons so if they don't go up and Murray fancies a new challenge after 2 failed play off attempts, I'd be happy with him.

Wishful thinking probably.

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3 minutes ago, Baggio said:

John Hughes would be a terrible appointment

However, it is exactly the kind of appointment a board made up of old Falkirk fans trying to bring back the glory days would make.

Airdrie have played some of the best football I've seen over the last couple of seasons so if they don't go up and Murray fancies a new challenge after 2 failed play off attempts, I'd be happy with him.

Wishful thinking probably.

I still think we are suffering a hangover from the glory days of the early to mid 90s, what with the scuppered promotions then the false dawns of a completed stadium and now the decline. 

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56 minutes ago, thediamonddude said:

Not sure where the idea that Ian Murray is a done deal is coming from - given the kind of individual he seems to be, I’d imagine he’d have flat out told Falkirk he wouldn’t discuss anything until after the playoffs. 

Not saying they won’t have sounded him out, but that doesn’t mean he’s spoken to them about the role in any detail.

As things stand, he’s got a very good chance of managing a group of his own players, that he’s put together himself and has fostered a great spirit in over years, in the Championship. And, even if we don’t make it through the playoffs, whose to say the board won’t throw everything at it to keep the squad together? 

Ludicrous to suggest this is anywhere near ‘done’.

I think you’ve more or less hit the nail on the head. Initial contact was made with Murray indicating he wasn’t prepared to discuss anything until the play offs were concluded, I also don’t think he was offered the job outright either with Falkirk also speaking to one other candidate who is currently out of work. Having said this I’m told Murray is indeed very very interested in the job.

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7 minutes ago, LatapyBairn. said:

I think you’ve more or less hit the nail on the head. Initial contact was made with Murray indicating he wasn’t prepared to discuss anything until the play offs were concluded, I also don’t think he was offered the job outright either with Falkirk also speaking to one other candidate who is currently out of work.

Who?

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19 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said:

Who?

I’ve no idea, it was actually a Hibs supporting friend of mine who knows Murray and his family that passed this on, although he’s not the bullshiting type like most things I hear “through the grapevine” I still take with a pinch of salt anyway.

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