Springfield Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 15 minutes ago, ChrispPancake said: It's now a position of what am I doing on a Saturday that means I don't go to the football, rather than what can't I do because I am going. The club, team, performances and enjoyment have all tailed away so dramatically that it's at the point that going is a last resort. After 36yrs of going to see the team and dragging the kids along when they were young, it's now case of being dragged along by them now and that's even starting to fall away as they arrange for other things to do rather than watch this tripe. Gone are the days of 'it's my club, follow them through thick and thin and the highs and lows'. I can see the club implode and fold at this rate, I really can I honestly think that your post could sum up how hundreds upon hundreds of loyal fans feel right now. A club that has sunk to middle table in Scotland’s third tier. As many supporters have said, just had our fill of continually backing the club in significant numbers, and I fear like many this support will fall significantly and yesterdays pathetic crowd should fire out the biggest warning to all clubs hierarchy. Expect STs to fall off a cliff unless there’s a significant change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I don’t know any of the board members from Adam but I would assume that they are all successful business people in their own particular fields. While we all consider ourselves to be fans, maybe they view us as merely customers? That being the case, they must know, surely, the cost and benefits of selling to an existing customer compared to the cost of trying to win a new or lapsed customer? Acquiring a new customer can cost five times more than retaining an existing customer. Increasing customer retention by 5% can increase profits from 25-95%. The success rate of selling to a customer you already have is 60-70%, while the success rate of selling to a new customer is 5-20%. They really must take note of their customers’ point of view when it comes to retaining Rennie or they could lose hundreds of existing customers and it would cost the club an absolute fortune to woo them back to TFS. Rennie and the Sevco Gobbler have to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecosse83 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 The only reason he will get a new contract would be to stroke a few egos that wanted him in the first place. It would be the worst decision of any board over the last few years! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkirkBairn2021 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 14 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: The only reason he will get a new contract would be to stroke a few egos that wanted him in the first place. It would be the worst decision of any board over the last few years! Worst decision ever. In our history. And this is a club that appointed John Lambie and Eamonn Bannon. I'd far rather watch the Bannon side, including Sabatino De Massis. He'd be a certain starter in this squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea and Busquets Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 “There are many conversations happening with players who want to come and play for this club and that is exciting.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Bairn Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 The club has been dying slowly for a number of years now. We lost some diehards when we left Brockville, we lost some to the new stadium being away from town and the lack of atmosphere compared to Brockville. We lost more due to the crazy decisions of the previous people running our club and we now have the last of the diehards seriously questioning if it is all worth the effort. Many will find that this season will be the straw that broke the camels back and will make them break the habit that they have had for decades and not bother going next season. This is a watershed moment in the history of FFC. The new board must invest and get further investment in like never before to try and keep these fans and even entice a few back. This will be no easy task for so many reasons happening around the world at the moment, but you have to give us hope, and by keeping the current management team you will kill that hope instantly and possibly our club with it. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, Broken Bairn said: The club has been dying slowly for a number of years now. We lost some diehards when we left Brockville, we lost some to the new stadium being away from town and the lack of atmosphere compared to Brockville. We lost more due to the crazy decisions of the previous people running our club and we now have the last of the diehards seriously questioning if it is all worth the effort. Many will find that this season will be the straw that broke the camels back and will make them break the habit that they have had for decades and not bother going next season. This is a watershed moment in the history of FFC. The new board must invest and get further investment in like never before to try and keep these fans and even entice a few back. This will be no easy task for so many reasons happening around the world at the moment, but you have to give us hope, and by keeping the current management team you will kill that hope instantly and possibly our club with it. Good post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 57 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: The only reason he will get a new contract would be to stroke a few egos that wanted him in the first place. It would be the worst decision of any board over the last few years! I think the reason for keeping him would be down to money. As I pointed out at the BTG meeting, they’re in a strong position to get rid due to the short contract, so why on earth would they want to retain someone who has performed so badly? Doesn’t make sense, unless he’s going to be cheap and easy to dump if it doesn’t work out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Bairn Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 It really does not matter if he is cheap or not. If they keep him they will lose dozens if not hundreds of season tickets and fans that might never return. This is the boards last chance to invest and invest big to get us out of this league and allow the club to recover. It will not be easy and they may not have the funds, if this is the case, they really need to be up front and scream for help from the main stand roof. I realise they have always been open to investment but i get the feeling that most fans just trust they will sort it and let them get on with it. Hopefully the AGM gets all the cards on the table and we have a white knight in the wings waiting to sort this mess out. If not, i really fear the worst. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 34 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: I think the reason for keeping him would be down to money. As I pointed out at the BTG meeting, they’re in a strong position to get rid due to the short contract, so why on earth would they want to retain someone who has performed so badly? Doesn’t make sense, unless he’s going to be cheap and easy to dump if it doesn’t work out. It makes sense if they have sounded out replacement managers and been told 'Not interested' due to track record on hire and fire of managers and players. The squad on contract next season and a fan base with short fuses. Add into the mix budget and what could be a change from full time football it explains a lot. All the more important to come out in the open with what is going to happen. The longer it goes on the worse its going to get regarding goodwill for the board Get us told FFS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bairn in Exile said: I don’t know any of the board members from Adam but I would assume that they are all successful business people in their own particular fields. While we all consider ourselves to be fans, maybe they view us as merely customers? That being the case, they must know, surely, the cost and benefits of selling to an existing customer compared to the cost of trying to win a new or lapsed customer? Acquiring a new customer can cost five times more than retaining an existing customer. Increasing customer retention by 5% can increase profits from 25-95%. The success rate of selling to a customer you already have is 60-70%, while the success rate of selling to a new customer is 5-20%. They really must take note of their customers’ point of view when it comes to retaining Rennie or they could lose hundreds of existing customers and it would cost the club an absolute fortune to woo them back to TFS. Rennie and the Sevco Gobbler have to go. Why would long term fans of the club who have followed the team for years through thick and thin suddenly decide that fans like they have been for years are simply customers? The Rennie situation is difficult to quantify properly without all the info required. If he is kept on there would have to be a damn good reason for it and I'm sure they know that. Are the players lined up of a level that will excite the fans enough to get them buying season tickets? Let's face it it's in their own interests to see the club do well as it's their own money they are pissing down the drain too if they make an arse of it. I wouldn't have thought the patrons or fss would be happy to see a couple keeping him on simply to prove a point so that's complete tosh. Rennie might have no intention of staying anyway. Who knows. Edited April 10 by Shadwell Dog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkirkBairn2021 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Also when the f**k did Lewis become part of this clowns propaganda machine? I get that we're not going to get any insightful questions from Falkirk TV but that opening one can get so far into the fucking sea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxi for De Massis Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tea and Busquets said: “There are many conversations happening with players who want to come and play for this club and that is exciting.” Don’t laugh, I genuinely believe that there are many who want to come to Falkirk, because they know they’ll get job security and a reasonable wage for little-to-no contribution. That’s how we’ve been for several years. Joking aside, if they kept Rennie on for another season, then fine - they just need to get rid of the following players to make it more acceptable: - Our alleged goalkeepers - Everyone else who has worn the navy blue, horrible blue and the rather decent white Still expect 2000 - 2500 to buy STs Edited April 10 by Taxi for De Massis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaspianChris Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, Blame Me said: judging by the crowd noise levels yesterday the "The sound of silence" would be appropriate. Going by everything going on at Falkirk at the moment a perfect new theme song has been found. Edited April 10 by CaspianChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Tea and Busquets said: “There are many conversations happening with players who want to come and play for this club and that is exciting.” That doesn't mean anything re the manager's position mind you. We've hired a chief scout who isn't going to sit on his arse for months until we appoint a manager. He should be scouting new players now and seeing whose available. Transfer window doesn't open for a couple of months but he'll be drawing up a list for the manager whoever he is come that time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, ShaggerG said: I think the reason for keeping him would be down to money. As I pointed out at the BTG meeting, they’re in a strong position to get rid due to the short contract, so why on earth would they want to retain someone who has performed so badly? Doesn’t make sense, unless he’s going to be cheap and easy to dump if it doesn’t work out. Doubt he'd be any cheaper than many other options mind you. His previous post might have been at a us college but they don't pay peanuts I can't see him giving it up just for the sake of a 6 month deal at Falkirk on much lower wages . Ok if you go for a manager in a post you'd have compo to deal with but there's other options that wouldn't have that cost surely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 3 hours ago, Springfield said: Hope I’m wrong, certainly gave the impression that players are being identified and for a guy who’s done absolutely nothing he talks a very good job. We've got a new scout in post and that's surely his job no matter who the manager is? He's not going to sit and do nothing for a few months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 30 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: It makes sense if they have sounded out replacement managers and been told 'Not interested' due to track record on hire and fire of managers and players. The squad on contract next season and a fan base with short fuses. Add into the mix budget and what could be a change from full time football it explains a lot. All the more important to come out in the open with what is going to happen. The longer it goes on the worse its going to get regarding goodwill for the board Get us told FFS I'm sure they said at the meet the board meetings that we were staying full time. You should've gone along and asked them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Lecturer Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 hours ago, ChrispPancake said: It's now a position of what am I doing on a Saturday that means I don't go to the football, rather than what can't I do because I am going. The club, team, performances and enjoyment have all tailed away so dramatically that it's at the point that going is a last resort. After 36yrs of going to see the team and dragging the kids along when they were young, it's now case of being dragged along by them now and that's even starting to fall away as they arrange for other things to do rather than watch this tripe. Gone are the days of 'it's my club, follow them through thick and thin and the highs and lows'. I can see the club implode and fold at this rate, I really can If they get rid of him I’ll still go to every single game I can, if they keep him I’ll still go to every single game I can. I can see why there are people that will be pissed off and go and visit the garden centre but that’s not for me. This is honestly not a dig at you personally, but if the people on here do decide to stop going, please boycott this forum too so we can make it good again and not like OneF. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 “There are many conversations happening with players who want to come and play for this club and that is exciting.” Don’t laugh, I genuinely believe that there are many who want to come to Falkirk, because they know they’ll get job security and a reasonable wage for little-to-no contribution. That’s how we’ve been for several years. Joking aside, if they kept Rennie on for another season, then fine - they just need to get rid of the following players to make it more acceptable: - Our alleged goalkeepers - Everyone else who has worn the navy blue, horrible blue and the rather decent white Still expect 2000 - 2500 to buy STsAye, was going to reply almost exactly the same... I totally believe there are many players with their eye on the easiest money in Scottish football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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