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1 hour ago, Caractacus Potts said:

Leaving aside the notion that the patrons investment was dependant on Sheerin leaving, how does this help your argument!?

Despite bringing in new players, Rennie hasn’t improved us?

Sheerin’s last 5 league games

Queens(a) 0-6

Montrose(h) 0-1

Dumbarton(a) 3-0

Alloa(h) 1-1

Clyde(a) 3-1

Points 7 GF 7 GA 9

 

Rennie’s last 5

Dumbarton(a) 2-0

Airdrie(h) 1-4

Clyde(a) 1-1

East Fife(h) 3-1

Peterhead(h) 1-1

Points 8 GF8 GA 7

The difference is marginal and then like you say, Rennie has brought in 6 players including an ex internationalist plus Anton Dowds. Also his last 5 have included 4 teams below us whereas Sheerin’s was only 3.

Take Sheerin’s results in the same fixtures Rennie has had in the last 5 though and these are his results…

Dumbarton(a) 3-0

Airdrie(a) 2-1

Clyde(a) 3-1

East Fife(a)- Wasn’t manager

Peterhead(h)- 0-0

Points 10 GF 8 GA 2

 

Please tell me what makes you convinced we’d be doing much worse with Sheerin still at the helm?(this is not me claiming he should still be there by the way!).

 

My opinion like yours that Rennie is no use. 

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I think some are forgetting the previous few years.  Hartley, McKinnon, M&M all took us backwards with slipping further down the spfl pyramid each appointment.  Along with that one of our worst results only this season losing 6-0 to QP under Sheerin which ultimately got him sacked. 

I agree that Rennie has not got the ship moving forward yet however he has steadied it to some extent. He also hasn't took us any lower unlike his predecessors if that's even possible. 

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2 hours ago, Back Post Misses said:

We have to have a bloody plan, your mates never had one. It is the idiotic policies of the past that has ruined us.
You and a few others have backed the previous regime and are now clearly digging the new guys. It is the mess of your mates that is needing cleared up. 

Having pressed for meaningful change for 12 years I am happy to be patient for the new Board to rebuild this wreck of a football club. 

 

For someone whose continually telling us we need to come together you don't half enjoy attacking folk for their opinion.   

I don't have any "mates" either on this board or the last and don't know a single one of them personally.  

I also didn't 'back' the last regime and criticised them plenty.  I did express an opinion that I wanted to see The Rawlins take more control in the summer but that didn't happen as we all know.  We should all be prepared to give credit when its due and criticise when its deserved regardless of who is in charge if we're ever going to 'pull together'

Everyone on here wants Rennie to succeed and want the board to succeed too (we're all FFC fans) but neither are above criticism when it's due (nor should they be).   The DGW episode could easily have finished us as a club and we all have a responsibility to make sure that sort of thing doesn't happen again.  I also don't agree with the LG signing but that's not on the same level.  Fingers crossed we'll start to get much more right than wrong soon but for most, I suspect the jury is out.  And that's ok, its still early days.  

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1 minute ago, Proudtobeabairn said:

For someone whose continually telling us we need to come together you don't half enjoy attacking folk for their opinion.   

I don't have any "mates" either on this board or the last and don't know a single one of them personally.  

I also didn't 'back' the last regime and criticised them plenty.  I did express an opinion that I wanted to see The Rawlins take more control in the summer but that didn't happen as we all know.  We should all be prepared to give credit when its due and criticise when its deserved regardless of who is in charge if we're ever going to 'pull together'

Everyone on here wants Rennie to succeed and want the board to succeed too (we're all FFC fans) but neither are above criticism when it's due (nor should they be).   The DGW episode could easily have finished us as a club and we all have a responsibility to make sure that sort of thing doesn't happen again.  I also don't agree with the LG signing but that's not on the same level.  Fingers crossed we'll start to get much more right than wrong soon but for most, I suspect the jury is out.  And that's ok, its still early days.  

I did say that at the start but it was clear that this clubs fans wish to eat it alive so there is little point trying to convince some now.

As fans we have put up with being treated like shit for years. New guys come in, try and clean the place up and some still can’t see it. 

The weekend was pretty telling. We won on Saturday, it wasn’t pretty, but we won. Had we lost the forum would have exploded. As it turned out it was pretty much like a ghost town. Says it all really. 

The club is now in good hands. Those who don’t think it is should take some time to go speak to those running it now. But many would rather just moan behind a keyboard and not go and judge for themselves.

I complained about the way the club was run for years. I was right all along and I have also done something about it by investing as a Patron and someone who signed up for FSS. I will support this Board to the end as they are good people. If they fail it will not be because they have not tried to do the right thing for the club or run it to suit their own personal agendas like it has been in the past

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16 minutes ago, Proudtobeabairn said:

For someone whose continually telling us we need to come together you don't half enjoy attacking folk for their opinion.   

I don't have any "mates" either on this board or the last and don't know a single one of them personally.  

I also didn't 'back' the last regime and criticised them plenty.  I did express an opinion that I wanted to see The Rawlins take more control in the summer but that didn't happen as we all know.  We should all be prepared to give credit when its due and criticise when its deserved regardless of who is in charge if we're ever going to 'pull together'

Everyone on here wants Rennie to succeed and want the board to succeed too (we're all FFC fans) but neither are above criticism when it's due (nor should they be).   The DGW episode could easily have finished us as a club and we all have a responsibility to make sure that sort of thing doesn't happen again.  I also don't agree with the LG signing but that's not on the same level.  Fingers crossed we'll start to get much more right than wrong soon but for most, I suspect the jury is out.  And that's ok, its still early days.  

PS Thank goodness you wish on the Rawlins didn’t happen. Absolutely front and centre of this car crash. 

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32 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:

My opinion like yours that Rennie is no use. 

What have you seen from Rennie to convince you that he is the one? 

The facts are he has a similar PPG as Sheerin with arguably a better squad (over half upgraded). Even dismissing the boring style of football, the results don’t back him up either.

One position we were crying out for was a dominant centre mid. He signed one on loan who now can’t get a game in front of Hetherington. I don’t buy there was nobody out there either. Morton and Hamilton signed Wilson and Lawson in the same window. Did we offer them deals? Could the Griffiths money had been distributed better to sign a bit wiser if we were outbidded.

I, like Mr Potts, were vocal against the old board so this isn’t some wild board agenda moan we’re having here. It’s a genuine concern against the managerial ability of Martin Rennie. I fully back the new board but I would personally start to have concerns if Rennie is kept on. Time will tell I suppose but until now it looks a relatively easy call to make.

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MRs biggest error/omission has being unable to address a midfield that has not provided defence cover nor provided the front line with decent service. Let’s be honest, with good service, Griffiths, Dowds and Jaze would be having an absolute field day in this league.

The only addition has been Jacobs who is now well past his prime, and has been on the sidelines for a year. I said before, but MRs biggest enemy has been time. We needed an instant fix, but the scope of it…..defenders who couldn’t defend properly, a midfield that just hides or is over populated with number 8s, and a front line that had no goals in it. Every department of the team fatally flawed, and a January window to fix it. I guess it was a big ask.

I am still not on board with all of MRs thinking, as some of it seems highly contradictory. I said before that charismatic managers tend to get dead cat bounce, and autocrats tend to take much longer to bring about real change, but when they do, it tends to be more stable as it is more process/system based rather than personality based. Occasionally, you get the ones that are both……Fergie, Shankly, Klopp, Pep, TT, Stein, but they are few and far between.

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27 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:

But many would rather just moan behind a keyboard and not go and judge for themselves.

This is what surprises me the most, there is some serious amount of time, effort and perhaps obsession put into the continual negative stuff posted, then when someone asks are you going along to an event they can never make it.

I get we haven't had much to be happy about, but it feels like there are also some serious agendas on the go.

 

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7 minutes ago, Sarcastic Bairn said:

This is what surprises me the most, there is some serious amount of time, effort and perhaps obsession put into the continual negative stuff posted, then when someone asks are you going along to an event they can never make it.

I get we haven't had much to be happy about, but it feels like there are also some serious agendas on the go.

 

The biggest one being trying to convince us Rennie is the right man for the job!

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32 minutes ago, TedCrilly said:

What have you seen from Rennie to convince you that he is the one? 

The facts are he has a similar PPG as Sheerin with arguably a better squad (over half upgraded). Even dismissing the boring style of football, the results don’t back him up either.

One position we were crying out for was a dominant centre mid. He signed one on loan who now can’t get a game in front of Hetherington. I don’t buy there was nobody out there either. Morton and Hamilton signed Wilson and Lawson in the same window. Did we offer them deals? Could the Griffiths money had been distributed better to sign a bit wiser if we were outbidded.

I, like Mr Potts, were vocal against the old board so this isn’t some wild board agenda moan we’re having here. It’s a genuine concern against the managerial ability of Martin Rennie. I fully back the new board but I would personally start to have concerns if Rennie is kept on. Time will tell I suppose but until now it looks a relatively easy call to make.

Martin Rennie has better CV than most Falkirk managers in recent times. I have little concern about his ability. Maybe he needs to adjust to this level but he is intelligent enough to do that. 
Everyone should take a listen to The last Sacked in the Morning podcast with Brad Friedel. He and Craig Levein discuss his time managing in the states and the obstacles he was coming across from within the club. I think this mirrors Rennie’s experience. 
IMO Rennie’s biggest mistake was trying to make this team more expansive. He wants to play that way but has now decided to go tough to beat which may help - who knows. 
 

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Just a reminder that we've organised an event on Wednesday night at Elliot’s, 7 pm, where anyone will have the opportunity to ask questions, raise concerns and make suggestions in person. 

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25 minutes ago, TedCrilly said:

What have you seen from Rennie to convince you that he is the one? 

The facts are he has a similar PPG as Sheerin with arguably a better squad (over half upgraded). Even dismissing the boring style of football, the results don’t back him up either.

One position we were crying out for was a dominant centre mid. He signed one on loan who now can’t get a game in front of Hetherington. I don’t buy there was nobody out there either. Morton and Hamilton signed Wilson and Lawson in the same window. Did we offer them deals? Could the Griffiths money had been distributed better to sign a bit wiser if we were outbidded.

I, like Mr Potts, were vocal against the old board so this isn’t some wild board agenda moan we’re having here. It’s a genuine concern against the managerial ability of Martin Rennie. I fully back the new board but I would personally start to have concerns if Rennie is kept on. Time will tell I suppose but until now it looks a relatively easy call to make.

This. Like you I'm fully behind those now in charge and have full confidence that things behind the scenes will improve, I know two of the guys are spending a fair chunk of time at the club and are completely invested in helping our club move forward. 

ultimately though it boils down to what is happening on the pitch and frankly its nowhere near good enough. The facts are there when comparing to sheerin and I'd hoped to have seen a far more cohesive unit but nothing has changed that much which is concerning, and the only reason we're still in with a shout is because QP have won 3 games since december.

I wasnt happy with the appointment from the start and that hasn't changed.

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9 minutes ago, Sarcastic Bairn said:

then when someone asks are you going along to an event they can never make it.

it feels like there are also some serious agendas on the go.

 

Sorry M8, cannae go. 😂🤣😂

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3 minutes ago, champions said:

This. Like you I'm fully behind those now in charge and have full confidence that things behind the scenes will improve, I know two of the guys are spending a fair chunk of time at the club and are completely invested in helping our club move forward. 

ultimately though it boils down to what is happening on the pitch and frankly its nowhere near good enough. The facts are there when comparing to sheerin and I'd hoped to have seen a far more cohesive unit but nothing has changed that much which is concerning, and the only reason we're still in with a shout is because QP have won 3 games since december.

I wasnt happy with the appointment from the start and that hasn't changed.

Who would you have appointed ? 

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5 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:

You are a lost cause you made your mind up after Rennie was in the door 5 minutes 

A lost cause 😂🤦‍♂️
 

We have been woeful under Rennie. He has signed 6 players with one on massive wages and got Dowds back from his loan spell in the form of his life. What else does he need to improve us? 
 

My views are unbiased, not sure the same can be said about you! 

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Just now, Ecosse83 said:

A lost cause 😂🤦‍♂️
 

We have been woeful under Rennie. He has signed 6 players with one on massive wages and got Dowds back from his loan spell in the form of his life. What else does he need to improve us? 
 

My views are unbiased, not sure the same can be said about you! 


he has improved us IMO. We would be staring relegation in the face if we had not got investment and players in. 

I have told you before if being supportive and loyal to people running the club I rate and like then so be it. If that is bias so fucking be it. 
 

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2 hours ago, Back Post Misses said:

Don’t support them then - it is your choice. 
 

 

2 hours ago, Back Post Misses said:

Don’t support them then - it is your choice. 
 

As said it’s all about opinions. You’ve obviously got a good relationship with the BOD and fully back them to do well like all of us.
I don’t know who they are (didn’t know who the last jokers were) but it’s early days and I’ve said we must back them. 
I will be at the next roadshow and travelling a fair distance to attend. 
One question for you and appreciate your honesty - did we bid for the piece of shite that signed RR ?

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