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How many times do we have to say we need experience? Not talking about specifically Rice but we need experience to win/get out this league. Why after Miller and McCracken, then Sheerin are we STILL going down the inexperienced route? We need a manager who can get every single ounce from his team. It’s sheer incompetence from the highest level. There is no Gary Deans to blame tonight. 
Hartley & McKinnon were experienced.
Next point.
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The only positive from today is that it ends any discussion that Rennie will still be in the dugout next season.

I don’t know how we are going to do it but the idea of starting next season with any of these losers can’t even be contemplated.

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22 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

They were split 2v2 between Rice and Rennie. One of the Rennie votes really really pushed for him. 
 

I hope that individual is open enough to say 'sorry, this disaster is on me'.

I interview 10s of people a year. Competency based answers, showing in depth knowledge of your subject matter, highly qualified within your job role and demonstrable plans for the next 3 months, 6 months and a year.

Hope I'm not misquoting you (and I believe you) but this sounds very much like a few people round a table going 'ehhh, whit about Ricey?'

Who interviewed both candidates? Were both candidates interviewing? What questions were asked? How was the scoring determined in a fair and reviewable manner?

And people might say 'This is football,  not some corporate pish, so pipe down' but there's a reason we don't give often very very well paid people jobs on the basis that their pal Shug minds eh them when they both played midfield for Larbert High.

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24 minutes ago, ebobsboy said:

I've already withdrew mine. That statement that included  stats absolutely has came from Rennie trying desperately to justify himself and keep himself in a job beyond this season. That is an absolutely terrifying prospect and 100% cannot be allowed to happen. 

You can only hope/assume that if they were leaning in that direction, today's pathetic, gutless, spineless capitulation will have concentrated a few minds. As a couple of others have mentioned, he basically hid in the back of the dugout for pretty much the entirety of the 90 minutes, only emerging to oversee that nonsensical substitution involving the removal of Griffiths and the introduction of Hetherington and that utter nothing "Seb" Ross. In short, he offered absolutely nothing.

I quite liked the appointment of Rennie. I hoped he'd show at least enough progress to justify continuing into next season. He hasn't. I've no idea who we get to replace him or where we go from here but I'm absolutely certain that, wherever it is, it cannot involve the current management team. Thank You and Goodbye.

 

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27 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said:

3 at home

God knows how long it's been since we actually looked like the home team. Every season away teams come to TFS and peg us back. 

Falkirk make nothing of home advantage.

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20 minutes ago, kiddy said:

Hartley & McKinnon were experienced.
Next point.

Hartley, when allowed to sign his own players in the January, had us 2nd in the league from Jan-end of 17/18 season. He has also proven elsewhere that he is a good manager who simply lost the plot with us that summer. I’m not sure we’ll ever know the full story behind it.

On McKinnon, far be it for me to defend him because he was a tit, but he was bulleted when we were 3 points off top. I’d also happily wager that the League One side he assembled  - by no means a good side, by the way - would comfortably hump the rabble we currently have.

Neither were good for us, but did better than the rookies we’ve appointed since.

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50 minutes ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

I know this is Wikipedia,  so large dose of salt...but still brilliant-

'Rennie attributes much of his coaching success to the leadership and psychological lessons he learned during his career in the corporate world'

Then he can return there, wouldn’t have an issue with it, even though I was supportive of Rennie’s appointment 

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You can only hope/assume that if they were leaning in that direction, today's pathetic, gutless, spineless capitulation will have concentrated a few minds. As a couple of others have mentioned, he basically hid in the back of the dugout for pretty much the entirety of the 90 minutes, only emerging to oversee that nonsensical substitution involving the removal of Griffiths and the introduction of Hetherington and that utter nothing "Seb" Ross. In short, he offered absolutely nothing.
I quite liked the appointment of Rennie. I hoped he'd show at least enough progress to justify continuing into next season. He hasn't. I've no idea who we get to replace him or where we go from here but I'm absolutely certain that, wherever it is, it cannot involve the current management team. Thank You and Goodbye.
 
Honestly, after Miller and McCracken, Sheerin and Rennie, all of which were left field "lets get away from the merry-go-round" type appointments, with each more disastrous than the last, just get back on the fucking thing.

Give me someone that actually makes some fucking demands of the players under them. Give me someone that doesn't accept the cowardly performances we have seen for the last few years. Get somecunt in that has won this league before.

Even then though, we have spanked so much money of late that we are going to be financially outgunned from numerous angles next season.

Campbell, then Deans, Holt and Co have absolutely cemented us as a League 1 mid table side. Destroyed the club.

I said before we have emptied those welts and making moves to be fan owned, so I will be a fan and pay my FSS even supposing we go down, but that doesn't mean I won't criticise, and someone in this club needs to get on top of why we get less than we know several people are capable of as a very clear and obvious theme.
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22 minutes ago, kiddy said:

Hartley & McKinnon were experienced.
Next point.

And look at Hartley now? Won a title at every club he’s been at. McKinnon should have been binned when we went down. He’s arguably failed at every club he’s been at with the exception of Queen’s Park who still sacked him after winning the league. 

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20 minutes ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

I hope that individual is open enough to say 'sorry, this disaster is on me'.

I interview 10s of people a year. Competency based answers, showing in depth knowledge of your subject matter, highly qualified within your job role and demonstrable plans for the next 3 months, 6 months and a year.

Hope I'm not misquoting you (and I believe you) but this sounds very much like a few people round a table going 'ehhh, whit about Ricey?'

Who interviewed both candidates? Were both candidates interviewing? What questions were asked? How was the scoring determined in a fair and reviewable manner?

And people might say 'This is football,  not some corporate pish, so pipe down' but there's a reason we don't give often very very well paid people jobs on the basis that their pal Shug minds eh them when they both played midfield for Larbert High.

Competency based interviews are a pile of shite.

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13 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Thought Kabia was really poor again today, which is worrying as he’s been excellent up until the last few weeks.

Needs players around him,which he doesn't have at Falkirk to get the best out of him.Hel be deflated,but hel come back to us having learned what it takes to be a top player.In the right surroundings hel do just that.🦁👍.

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Listened to Rennies interview and it worries me he is still talking about catching QP, not a hope in hell of that happening. If I was him it would be the other end of the league I would be concerned about.

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6 minutes ago, Harry Kinnear said:

Listened to Rennies interview and it worries me he is still talking about catching QP, not a hope in hell of that happening. If I was him it would be the other end of the league I would be concerned about.

He talks a lot of pish mate.

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Rennie’s interview is pathetic. I wanted it to work for him but it’s not. Hetherington on for Griffiths was the last in a long line of baffling decisions for me. End this experiment at the earliest opportunity. 

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9 minutes ago, Harry Kinnear said:

Listened to Rennies interview and it worries me he is still talking about catching QP, not a hope in hell of that happening. If I was him it would be the other end of the league I would be concerned about.

There’s no need for this hysteria, we’re not going to be relegated this season.

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3 minutes ago, JulioBairn said:

Rennie’s interview is pathetic. I wanted it to work for him but it’s not. Hetherington on for Griffiths was the last in a long line of baffling decisions for me. End this experiment at the earliest opportunity. 

He said in the same interview that Griffiths had to come off with an injury.

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