The Falkirk FC Thread

[Rob1885]

Wouldn’t be a glamour appointment but Alan Johnstone took both Queen of the South and Dunfermline up out of this division as champions at the first time of asking. In both cases he won the league at a canter and I’m told playing decent football. Still clinging on to the hope Rennie/Miller will show something between now and June to warrant a new contract but just throwing Johnstone out there as possibility to see what kinda reaction it gets. Realistically that’s the level of manager we are now looking at unless there is somebody out there I’ve not thought of. 

I've always thought he's who you should go for based on his track record in this league. Genuinely.

[Syd Puddefoot]

1 hour ago, Bairn in Exile said:

M&M and Sheerin were straight out of Aldi budget appointments and look where that has got us. We're in the last chance saloon, you have to speculate to accumulate. They had better find the money from somewhere to appoint a decent manager.

' better find the money from somewhere ' 

Christ on a bike.

[Bainsfordbairn]

1 hour ago, Shadwell Dog said:

It shouldn't be a 3 year job at our club though. We've got the biggest budget in the league. Any half decent manager should be able to use that budget to put a side out that will be challenging for the title .

Only if you have full control of the budget. Our next manager won't, as 13 players (likely more than half the squad) are tied up and probably can't be released without spending more money to buy them out. 

Virtually everyone who arrived last summer got at least a two year deal. The only exceptions were the three young lads who signed from the fledgling development squad and Ompreon. 

From the gametime they've been given, it could be assumed that Rennie would like to jettison virtually all those signings  from last summer. After all, only McGuffie & Williamson have been first picks under him. 

Judging by the recent BOD statement, next season will see us on a reduced budget. The manager will likely have less than half of it to spend, with the remainder tied up in players he (speculation) probably doesn't want. 

His job is nowhere near as easy as you repeatedly make it out to be. 

Edited March 6, 2022 by Bainsfordbairn

[PedroMoutinho]

1 hour ago, Shadwell Dog said:

It shouldn't be a 3 year job at our club though. We've got the biggest budget in the league. Any half decent manager should be able to use that budget to put a side out that will be challenging for the title .

It shouldn’t be but somehow successive managers continually manage to squander a good budget on dross.

I dread to think what’s been spent on bringing in and paying off players who’ve contributed nothing over the last 4 or 5 years. 

January’s recruitment doesn’t seem much better mind you with a defence with 3 new centre halves but looking no better and £1500 a week for an immobile striker while other areas of the team are still a shambles.

[Harry Kinnear]

9 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

Only if you have full control of the budget. Our next manager won't, as 13 players (likely more than half the squad) are tied up and probably can't be released without spending more money to buy them out. 

Virtually everyone who arrived last summer got at least a two year deal. The only exceptions were the three young lads who signed from the fledgling development squad and Ompreon. 

From the gametime they've been given, it could be assumed that Rennie would like to jettison virtually all those signings  from last summer. After all, only McGuffie & Williamson have been first picks under him. 

Judging by the recent BOD statement, next season will see us on a reduced budget. The manager will likely have less than half of it to spend, with the remainder tied up in players he (speculation) probably doesn't want. 

His job is nowhere near as easy as you repeatedly make it out to be. 

If we go into next season with a squad containing 13 players the manager doesn’t want then we have absolutely no chance before a ball is even kicked. We have to try and offload the vast majority of them as they are simply not good enough. It is a big financial risk as who knows we might not recruit a better calibre of player but any manager having more than half their squad consisting of players that aren’t up to the task will struggle no matter how good a manager they are.

[latapythelegend]

1 hour ago, HopeStreetWalker said:

How do work that out ??

Losing only 3 games this season is a winning team.

Never claimed we approached him.

What did he do to build it exactly? 

Kelty have money to walk through that league. M&M, Sheerin, Rennie, you and me could do what he has done there.

[Shadwell Dog]

1 hour ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

Only if you have full control of the budget. Our next manager won't, as 13 players (likely more than half the squad) are tied up and probably can't be released without spending more money to buy them out. 

Virtually everyone who arrived last summer got at least a two year deal. The only exceptions were the three young lads who signed from the fledgling development squad and Ompreon. 

From the gametime they've been given, it could be assumed that Rennie would like to jettison virtually all those signings  from last summer. After all, only McGuffie & Williamson have been first picks under him. 

Judging by the recent BOD statement, next season will see us on a reduced budget. The manager will likely have less than half of it to spend, with the remainder tied up in players he (speculation) probably doesn't want. 

His job is nowhere near as easy as you repeatedly make it out to be. 

He's already brought more than half a team and it's made no difference. Own bloody fault if he has a reduced budget as he's pished a sizeable chunk down the drain this season to end up 5th at best.

 

[Guest Caractacus Potts]

1 hour ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

Only if you have full control of the budget. Our next manager won't, as 13 players (likely more than half the squad) are tied up and probably can't be released without spending more money to buy them out. 

Virtually everyone who arrived last summer got at least a two year deal. The only exceptions were the three young lads who signed from the fledgling development squad and Ompreon. 

From the gametime they've been given, it could be assumed that Rennie would like to jettison virtually all those signings  from last summer. After all, only McGuffie & Williamson have been first picks under him. 

Judging by the recent BOD statement, next season will see us on a reduced budget. The manager will likely have less than half of it to spend, with the remainder tied up in players he (speculation) probably doesn't want. 

His job is nowhere near as easy as you repeatedly make it out to be. 

I know a lot of these players aren’t great but Sheerin still managed to get results with them and even won 3 matches in a row.
 

Rennie has Griffiths and 5 other players he brought in. If he is a good coach then surely that why can’t he get more out of these players and more out of an ex international striker?

Also why did it take him so long to put Griffiths on set pieces? That appears to be our only way of scoring at the moment! 

[MrDust]

7 hours ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

Yep. Because it's someone's mates that have hired another useless manager they have to polish this turd.

We've likely avoided relegation. Great. Now we need an actual manager not this bumbleclown in the summer. 

I doubt we would've been relegated under Sheerin(may have ran closer to it) but avoiding relegation in the 3rd division is a horrible statement. 

6 minutes ago, Caractacus Potts said:

I know a lot of these players aren’t great but Sheerin still managed to get results with them and even won 3 matches in a row.
 

Rennie has Griffiths and 5 other players he brought in. If he is a good coach then surely that why can’t he get more out of these players and more out of an ex international striker?

Also why did it take him so long to put Griffiths on set pieces? That appears to be our only way of scoring at the moment! 

It wasn't pre Griffiths 

[Guest Caractacus Potts]

At the moment, Miller and McCracken have been our most successful management team of the past 6 years!

We sacked them when we were second, 2 points off top and with just 4 games to go. What we’d give to have that issue right now! Now at a point whereby if we scrape 4th place then some fans will see that as a success. 

Edited March 6, 2022 by Caractacus Potts

[Springfield]

The more you way up our situation and after digesting the BODs statement for the third time,  Ive more than a hunch that the BOD will go with the existing managers.
Maybe a million miles away but all things weighed up don’t think we will be any attraction to a half decent manager. What a Fckn mess we are in.
 

[champions]

Was given a couple of comps for the livi celtic game today, I appreciate it was full but what a noise in that place, kind of wish our ground had been designed in a similar fashion. 

Couldnt be bothered with the 2nd half so left to go shopping instead, on the way out bumped into Jaze sauntering in, just said he was disappointed at how the game finished.

[Guest]

………and the question was recently asked “when do we stop blaming Deans, Holt and Sheerin for our ills”?

The answer will be measured in years, not games or quarters.

I am sure MRs knowledge of the game is vast, but that has not translated into a rapid change in FFC fortunes. When what is effectively seven new faces are introduced, and it makes no difference other than we are scoring more goals and conceding a few less but actually falling behind Sheerin in terms of points per game (and that includes Sheerin’s “off the cliff” from game 12 on). If you measure it over the first 11 games, then the one that really matters (points per game), then they are virtually identical at 1.36 points per game.
 

Whatever the fix looks like, it still feels a long way off. All that Rennie is going to be able to point to at the end of the season is “better than Sheerin” . He needs 6 points from the next 5 games to make that a reality.

[Tea and Busquets]

If it’s the case, which is seems to be, that our budget is smaller next season why the absolute f**k did someone agree to pay thousands for Griffiths? Surely that money could have just been kept and put this next season’s budget? As was said at the time, you could have Ronaldo in our team but if you don’t sort the midfield it wouldn’t matter a jot. We’ve wasted thousands on Griffiths. 

[Guest Caractacus Potts]

15 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

………and the question was recently asked “when do we stop blaming Deans, Holt and Sheerin for our ills”?

The answer will be measured in years, not games or quarters.

I am sure MRs knowledge of the game is vast, but that has not translated into a rapid change in FFC fortunes. When what is effectively seven new faces are introduced, and it makes no difference other than we are scoring more goals and conceding a few less but actually falling behind Sheerin in terms of points per game (and that includes Sheerin’s “off the cliff” from game 12 on). If you measure it over the first 11 games, then the one that really matters (points per game), then they are virtually identical at 1.36 points per game.
 

Whatever the fix looks like, it still feels a long way off. All that Rennie is going to be able to point to at the end of the season is “better than Sheerin” . He needs 6 points from the next 5 games to make that a reality.

What’s more worrying is that if you take the last 5 games of Rennie’s and Sheerin’s which, as you say, was ‘off the cliff’ form then Sheerin only had 1 less point and that was without a player of the quality of Griffiths. 

Edited March 6, 2022 by Caractacus Potts

[PedroMoutinho]

12 minutes ago, Tea and Busquets said:

If it’s the case, which is seems to be, that our budget is smaller next season why the absolute f**k did someone agree to pay thousands for Griffiths? Surely that money could have just been kept and put this next season’s budget? As was said at the time, you could have Ronaldo in our team but if you don’t sort the midfield it wouldn’t matter a jot. We’ve wasted thousands on Griffiths. 

It doesn’t make any sense to me that you have the bod on the one hand saying even a hybrid model may not be affordable next year and yet we’re paying surely the highest wage for many years for Griffiths.

Either the financial situation is being laid on thick to get FSS sign ups or a crazy decision has been made to sign a luxury player when we’re potless. 

Edited March 6, 2022 by PedroMoutinho

[Guest Ecosse83]

Are folk honestly basing Rennie on Sheerins points tally per quarter? Do the club actually think fans are that daft? 
 

Sheerin was miles off it and it appears Rennie is as well, couldn’t give a monkeys if Rennie slightly beats Sheerin in points per game! 

[Shadwell Dog]

9 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

It doesn’t make any sense to me that you have the bod on the one hand saying even a hybrid model may not be affordable next year and yet we’re paying surely the highest wage for many years for Griffiths.

Either the financial situation is being laid on thick to get FSS sign ups or a crazy decision has been made to sign a luxury player when we’re potless. 

Smells a wee bit of desperation . Big gamble which would've maybe had more chance of paying off if Rennie had fixed the midfield and defence first.

[Guest Caractacus Potts]

2 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said:

Are folk honestly basing Rennie on Sheerins points tally per quarter? Do the club actually think fans are that daft? 
 

Sheerin was miles off it and it appears Rennie is as well, couldn’t give a monkeys if Rennie slightly beats Sheerin in points per game! 

Not sure but folk on here were blaming Rennie’s woes on Sheerin and pointing out how much better Rennie is but the stats simply don’t show that. Rennie is proving to be just as bad. 

[Russ]

Surely we’ve got to the stage now where everyone excepts Rennie is an absolute loser and a terrible football manager.