Bainsfordbairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: As an outsider it comes across that there are players ready to step into the first team. You and I know that is not the case. we absolutely had to start somewhere but let’s not kid the troops on No arguement from me about the first team. The best players in the two squads are IMO the fifteen year olds so they're a couple of years away yet. Given the overall lack of game time that Lemon, Weekes & Williamson have had I'd be surprised if any of the current youths got a pro contract until at least the summer, if not later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 For me Mackenzie Lemon has looked very promising in the game time he’s had. By no means the finished article but I can’t understand why he’s not been given more opportunity when our other options at centre half are very poor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 For me Mackenzie Lemon has looked very promising in the game time he’s had. By no means the finished article but I can’t understand why he’s not been given more opportunity when our other options at centre half are very poor.Same reason as Krasniqi presumably, which exists only in Sheerins head 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Yes. My own point put better than I was managing. Any replacement is a gamble, it was ever thus, but its a gamble that absolutely HAS to be taken as the do nothing scenario is currently playing out and it shows us getting worse and worse, week by week. It doesnt take much more than a basic understanding of how league football works to see how that ends up..... Sheerin has shown us he wont or cant change the system by setting up the same way failure after failure. He has shown us he cant get the players to buy into it, because we are seeing effort and application diminish week after week, and people like Aidan Nesbitt are going round the houses to say pretty much that. So theres no mystery left about how Sheerin is going to carry to coming weeks and months. Its all there in front of us, in glorious detail. How anyone thinks Rice can somehow be WORSE than getting effortlessly bodied by any team with a pulse, I have genuinely no idea. We are a mid table League 1 team on a downward trajectory. Expectations ought to be realigned somewhat. Brian Rice would be getting on towards a bit of a coup for this broken mess of a football club in its current state. The thing is it really shouldn't be that big a gamble at all for us. We're looking for a manager that can win the league with the biggest side by a mile in the league, the one with comfortably the biggest budget and facilities. He doesn't need to be an over achiever at this stage he just needs to meet the expectations the clubs size and finances produce. It should be a lot harder for the other 9 teams to find a manager to win them the league than us FFS. Our boy doesn't have to do a ranieri with Leicester. It's beyond belief that we can't find someone competent to win us the league given all the advantages they start off. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: The thing is it really shouldn't be that big a gamble at all for us. We're looking for a manager that can win the league with the biggest side by a mile in the league, the one with comfortably the biggest budget and facilities. He doesn't need to be an over achiever at this stage he just needs to meet the expectations the clubs size and finances produce. It should be a lot harder for the other 9 teams to find a manager to win them the league than us FFS. Our boy doesn't have to do a ranieri with Leicester. It's beyond belief that we can't find someone competent to win us the league given all the advantages they start of But it is difficult to build a team from scratch. If u had a core squad that you had something from to build from. Every player you have gets slated on here other than morrison. Being solid at the back and able to grind our results by getting down and dirty is what's going to get a team out of the league. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 But it is difficult to build a team from scratch. If u had a core squad that you had something from to build from. Every player you have gets slated on here other than morrison. Being solid at the back and able to grind our results by getting down and dirty is what's going to get a team out of the league.This team is delivering less than the sum of its parts, regardless of whether it looks objectively like a league winning squad or not. Its weak up top and in the centre of defence, but this squad should be capable of winning most weeks. The league is full of utter shite. The point is, no one is having to do anything clever to beat us, because our manager is not capable of instilling a coherent style or any intent whatsoever either in attack or defence. Just like the match thread yestersay im afraid this is a "take our word for it" scenario. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: The thing is it really shouldn't be that big a gamble at all for us. We're looking for a manager that can win the league with the biggest side by a mile in the league, the one with comfortably the biggest budget and facilities. He doesn't need to be an over achiever at this stage he just needs to meet the expectations the clubs size and finances produce. It should be a lot harder for the other 9 teams to find a manager to win them the league than us FFS. Our boy doesn't have to do a Ranieri with Leicester. It's beyond belief that we can't find someone competent to win us the league given all the advantages they start off. Indeed. We really only need a Deila with Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Hank von Hell said: Remember when we used to have Scottish Cup runs? Remember when we used to get to finals .....not that long ago. But a conveyor belt of incompetent deluded power mad fools who think they know how to run a football club have run us into the ground and we can't even compete with an average Raith Rovers side in a one off cup tie. Most commentators and observers think we're better than average -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 What I would give for us to be average right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Raith_Raver said: Most commentators and observers think we're better than average I would say rangers and Celtic are average at best the rest of Scottish football goes from shite to complete dross. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: But it is difficult to build a team from scratch. If u had a core squad that you had something from to build from. Every player you have gets slated on here other than morrison. Being solid at the back and able to grind our results by getting down and dirty is what's going to get a team out of the league. It's the spine of our side that's the problem. A decent centreback, midfielder and striker then you have players that are capable enough to play around them. The two fullbacks are fine and Dixon is ok. Telfer disappears too much but if he had a good hard midfielder beside him he'd be more consistent. Morrison is decent and okay you would probably want a better left winger but there is a basis there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: I would say rangers and Celtic are average at best the rest of Scottish football goes from shite to complete dross. There's an important thing called "context". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said: It's the spine of our side that's the problem. A decent centreback, midfielder and striker then you have players that are capable enough to play around them. The two fullbacks are fine and Dixon is ok. Telfer disappears too much but if he had a good hard midfielder beside him he'd be more consistent. Morrison is decent and okay you would probably want a better left winger but there is a basis there. I think centre half's across the board are getting fewer and fewer that's why you are getting quoted 5k for centre half's even at camelons level so Dare not ask what teams would be asking in league 1 and championship. Hardy midfield players seem to be getting fewer aswell. I think a lot of it stems for the way things are done at a young level. It's all passing and too much uncompetitive so the players that have been coming through are a different bread from 10 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The thing that sums up just now was when the Falkirk tv guy when oh no when the ball went through for the 2nd goal,even he knew what was coming 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: Hardy midfield players seem to be getting fewer aswell. I think a lot of it stems for the way things are done at a young level. It's all passing and too much uncompetitive so the players that have been coming through are a different bread from 10 years ago. They've still got to earn a crust. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said: The thing that sums up just now was when the Falkirk tv guy when oh no when the ball went through for the 2nd goal,even he knew what was coming Did you get a message about Sheerin this weekend? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: They've still got to earn a crust. I see what you did there It must do scouts pan in looking at all these plain players rising through the game. Players of old are toast! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: I think centre half's across the board are getting fewer and fewer that's why you are getting quoted 5k for centre half's even at camelons level so Dare not ask what teams would be asking in league 1 and championship. Hardy midfield players seem to be getting fewer aswell. I think a lot of it stems for the way things are done at a young level. It's all passing and too much uncompetitive so the players that have been coming through are a different bread from 10 years ago. Crumbs ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Bairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Brian Rice is a non-starter. I believe it has been reported a number of times he is fighting a significant gambling problem which has interfered with his job in the recent past. Don't get me wrong, many of us have significant problems in one way or another, including me, but I am not looking to manage an organisation in a high pressure environment. Time to put his name to bed as an option for us and wish him the best for the future. Edited November 28, 2021 by Long Suffering Bairn mistake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: Crumbs ! Mark Warburton to be the new Falkirk Manager 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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