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Just now, NUMBER 7 said:

Are “The Navy Blue” the guys who were prepared to keep the academy going when Campbell and Laing pulled the plug on it ?  If so they would have my backing 100%

As far as i am aware...some are ...yes.

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11 minutes ago, Caractacus Potts said:

Wonder if his tune has changed cause his pal BainsfordBairn is now involved? 🤔 

What? 

I have no idea who user FTID is and I have no involvement whatsoever in any board matters. Nor am I using social media to either attack or defend any of the parties who are. I know nothing about it other than what I've read on here. I give you my word of honour on that and will happily meet you in person to discuss it.  

The most "anti-board" person I know is Back Post Misses. I met him for the first time maybe a decade ago when he came along to a Bairnstrust meeting. The conversation turned to the BOD and I told him that I had no interest in boardroom matters and his eyebrows did a Mr Spock impersonation. My feelings haven't changed in the slightest. 

Of the current board, I obviously know and like Kieran Koszary because I've worked with and helped him in his Commercial role for a number of years. I have no relationship with any of the others. That applies to most of the BOD members whom I've encountered. 

The only exceptions are those BOD members whom I got to know because they were around the club on a daily basis. I have a lot of time for Ronnie Bateman and liked Margaret Lang as a human being, though I strongly disagreed with a number of decisions that were made during her tenure. 

Conversely, there are a few BOD people whom I disliked intensely because I saw both how they behaved and how their decisions affected staff members who were friends of mine. Though for obvious reasons I'm never going to name them or go into detail. 

Your allegation about me is both untrue and unfair, given that my name is known on here and I have no idea who you are. 

Will you explain it? 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

What? 

I have no idea who user FTID is and I have no involvement whatsoever in any board matters. Nor am I using social media to either attack or defend any of the parties who are. I know nothing about it other than what I've read on here. I give you my word of honour on that and will happily meet you in person to discuss it.  

The most "anti-board" person I know is Back Post Misses. I met him for the first time maybe a decade ago when he came along to a Bairnstrust meeting. The conversation turned to the BOD and I told him that I had no interest in boardroom matters and his eyebrows did a Mr Spock impersonation. My feelings haven't changed in the slightest. 

Of the current board, I obviously know and like Kieran Koszary because I've worked with and helped him in his Commercial role for a number of years. I have no relationship with any of the others. That applies to most of the BOD members whom I've encountered. 

The only exceptions are those BOD members whom I got to know because they were around the club on a daily basis. I have a lot of time for Ronnie Bateman and liked Margaret Lang as a human being, though I strongly disagreed with a number of decisions that were made during her tenure. 

Conversely, there are a few BOD people whom I disliked intensely because I saw both how they behaved and how their decisions affected staff members who were friends of mine. Though for obvious reasons I'm never going to name them or go into detail. 

Your allegation about me is both untrue and unfair, given that my name is known on here and I have no idea who you are. 

Will you explain it? 

 

 

What’s that thing about protesting too much? 

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13 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

What? 

I have no idea who user FTID is and I have no involvement whatsoever in any board matters. Nor am I using social media to either attack or defend any of the parties who are. I know nothing about it other than what I've read on here. I give you my word of honour on that and will happily meet you in person to discuss it.  

The most "anti-board" person I know is Back Post Misses. I met him for the first time maybe a decade ago when he came along to a Bairnstrust meeting. The conversation turned to the BOD and I told him that I had no interest in boardroom matters and his eyebrows did a Mr Spock impersonation. My feelings haven't changed in the slightest. 

Of the current board, I obviously know and like Kieran Koszary because I've worked with and helped him in his Commercial role for a number of years. I have no relationship with any of the others. That applies to most of the BOD members whom I've encountered. 

The only exceptions are those BOD members whom I got to know because they were around the club on a daily basis. I have a lot of time for Ronnie Bateman and liked Margaret Lang as a human being, though I strongly disagreed with a number of decisions that were made during her tenure. 

Conversely, there are a few BOD people whom I disliked intensely because I saw both how they behaved and how their decisions affected staff members who were friends of mine. Though for obvious reasons I'm never going to name them or go into detail. 

Your allegation about me is both untrue and unfair, given that my name is known on here and I have no idea who you are. 

Will you explain it? 

 

 

Apologies BB. Thought you were on the BoD as you seemed heavily in the know. 

Will remove the comment as you’re right, it wasn’t fair.

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Just now, Caractacus Potts said:

Apologies BB. Thought you were on the BoD as you seemed heavily in the know. 

Will remove the comment as wasn’t fair.

Thank you. 

I'm one of the volunteers who helps out at the club and I get information from being down there quite a lot. People will answer questions as long as you don't pry into confidential stuff and then go spreading it on the internet. 

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1 minute ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

Thank you. 

I'm one of the volunteers who helps out at the club and I get information from being down there quite a lot. People will answer questions as long as you don't pry into confidential stuff and then go spreading it on the internet. 

Again sorry for that BB. Just feels like there’s a bit of pro-board propaganda going on but wasn’t fair of me to point fingers and implicate yourself.

Hopefully the BoD will answer soon about recent events with the Patrons. 

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34 minutes ago, NUMBER 7 said:

Are “The Navy Blue” the guys who were prepared to keep the academy going when Campbell and Laing pulled the plug on it ?  If so they would have my backing 100%

Same people are there, yes.

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As sad as it is to see his second spell end like this it’s undoubtedly the right thing to do to move him on considering how absolutely terrible he was last season. Unfortunately his legs have completely gone and he’s only a shell of the player he used to be. Wish him well but I’d be shocked if another full time team took a punt on him.

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Sad to see Alston leave in this way but it was the right thing to do. Not by any means championing Holt just yet but it’s a step in the right direction. It will be interesting to see what him and Sheerin have up their sleeve! 

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1 hour ago, Caractacus Potts said:

Apologies BB. Thought you were on the BoD as you seemed heavily in the know. 

Will remove the comment as you’re right, it wasn’t fair.

Pottzo making a t*t of themselves. Shock. 

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11 hours ago, Brockvillenomore said:

 

Some facts to ponder.

1.        Gary Deans has been on the board for over two years, most of that time as Chairman.

2.        The Board as it looks now has been running longer than a year plus, there was a shadow Board as Gary Deans pushed to the side those members that eventually left, they were all out of the picture for months and the current board members were working with Gary.

3.        Gary Deans prepared a root and branch review, remember the statement, this is his board, handpicked. They all look the same, sound the same and have the same background – consultancy, accounts and PR. Soft skills, nobody used to working at the sharp end in an industry where cost control and profit is on a knife edge and you need to think on your feet.

4.        This board have been in place for at least18 months; all this talk of them being "new" is a distraction. If we failed in our jobs as the club did last season we’d get the bullet – why haven’t they resigned? I would.

5.        There one success was the Rawlins, wasn’t it? Then you start to get a sense of what these two are like, now I’m not so sure.

6.        I’ve seen the paperwork for the Navy Blue group of local businessmen, shareholders, sponsors and fervent supporters of Falkirk FC.

7.        They had discussions looking to invest as much as £600k in cash.

8.        The MSG, as was, agreed to the idea of diluting their shareholding and take a step back.

9.        There was tentative discussion about the MSG and the Navy Blue Group giving the supporter’s group shares to get it going as they wanted supporters to always have control of the club.

10.    Let’s face facts. 20/21 season was a disaster, an embarrassing failure. If I was on the board and presided over that disgrace I’d resign. Sorry, they should be ashamed. But they stayed.

11.    It was clear to anybody who knows the game that after the first round of games we were found out, we couldn’t beat Partick when they had a full team missing and when they got their players back, we were in trouble. So it proved.

12.    It wasn’t clear to the Board, or the management team though, was it.

13.    The Board the Navy Blue guys decided there had to real change and proposed a new, independent Chairman of  a sensible sized board, suggesting  changes that would see two join and three leave, no names were tabled by the Navy Blue group.

14.    The choice was then for members in the board to do the right thing for the club, stand down and £600k is invested.

15.    They would also have brought with them somebody with real football knowledge, playing, managing and board experience. He was also an investor. 

16.    Despite making their intentions clear from the get-go the Rawlins acted as the proposed changes didn’t exist and continued happily along essentially avoiding dealing with it, as if their charm and sales pitch would somehow convince these guys what they wanted wasn’t all that important. But they didn't want seats on the board, they wanted change and help drive the club forward.

17.    It came to a head in the middle of the week when it became clear the Rawlins were supporting the board, sweeping the failure under the table as if it was trivial and unimportant. Clearly more important than the £600k.

18.    The Navy Blue group announced they were walking away as they were both so far apart it would be daft to carry on, maybe not the words they used to be fair.

19.    The Rawlins reaction was petty and, in my view, childish. Suggesting in as many words the bid was wasting their time and they had a record of offering to invest 4 or 5 times and then walking away.

20.    This is utter BS, and the only conclusion is this BS was given to them by the Board. Sad and pathetic stuff really.

21.    One of the guys in the group emailed the Rawlins privately and very nicely explained they were wrong. Challenging people’s motives and intentions when these are Falkirk supporters through and through, supporting the club for 50 and 60 years in some cases was bang out of order; very nicely he asked them to explain who told them the BS and please list out the 4 or 5 times they were referring to. As far as I know he’s had no response.

22.    Honestly, I’m worried about the club. Rawlins has 26%, a puppet board who do as he says and they’re turning down a £600k investment and introducing guys who can help the club but will challenge and not just rollover to what the Rawlins or anybody else says. I’m speculating of course, but it looks that way.

23.    Also, the shareholders of the Club should be asking if the Board of Director’s acted in the best interests of the Club by declining the opportunity to stand aside in order to attract such a significant investment. £600K FFS. 

24.    That’s their duty as directors under company law, act in a way that protects the company, before your self-interest. Did they do that, or are they just holding onto the status of the positions and Rawlins coat tails.

Only time will tell.

Excellent summary of the situation.

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Definitely the right decision to move him on - hopefully a wage or 2 worth of money saved too. The bloke could barely run, and when about 90% of what he was good at before depended on that, it was no wonder we got a shadow of what he used to be 

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17 minutes ago, BooBairn said:

Pottzo making a t*t of themselves. Shock. 

I did mate. Let’s not be salty because I didn’t repost stuff that had been said about the patrons deal!  

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I worry for Alston’s career from this point on as his body is absolutely finished for full time football. Does he retire or go part time? You could see his quality was still there at set pieces but within a game he was absolutely useless. A real shame to watch.

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In my view if the Rawlins want to control everything at the club they should be investing the amount of capital required to do that properly.  They've been allowed to do it on the cheap.  The initial talk was that they would more than likely take up the full share amount they were offered but having found that they don't have to bother to run the club they've just stuck at their 26 percent. Surely if they were that keen they'd be investing more cash to get the club out this league and into the championship and beyond asap. Now that they've got their control on the cheap they'll do anything possible to keep it including knocking back much needed cash considering the huge hole in the budget we have. They are desperate for the cash but not desperate enough to cede anything to get it.

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