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2 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said:

I was all for Holt but he appears as complicit as these two clowns and if the players aren't listening to him the now they sure as hell won't bother just because the two stooges are bulleted.  Is there no someone out there doing feck all that could give us at least a small chance over the next few weeks. Or what about a quick call to Young at East Fife now his mob are out the picture.  A fresh face is needed not more of the same I fear.

Can't see them approaching a manager that's under contract due to the compensation that would have to be paid as well as the cost of getting rid of M&M.

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9 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

Can't see them approaching a manager that's under contract due to the compensation that would have to be paid as well as the cost of getting rid of M&M.

 Not hundred percent sure on his current contract situation but it was publicised that he  signed a two year deal in 2019 so that would mean he is nearing the end of that and would cost peanuts if east Fife chose to stand in his way.

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29 minutes ago, Smokerson said:

We also made a lot of changes for that game, it was a cup game that we could've been doing without, i would also point out that we dominated a fair part of it. I think we would be very confident we would beat any of the top 5 over two legs as we have been playing pretty well since January after having a dire start, thistle seem to be on a bit of a roll so they would be the ones i would be wary about. Dont think we will finish 9th anyway so you wont have to worry about how shit we are.

You were pretty sure the season before too mind you. I wouldn't be so sure. You only have to look at Raith. A decent but nowt special side last season they've added a couple of players just and are now second top of the championship.

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Also mate, I think we are now further away from the top flight than we have ever been in our history for a large number of reasons :-
1. Terrible management on the field.
2. Terrible management off the field.
3. Really low standard across first team playing squad.
4. Lack of effort from players.
5. Appalling transfer market activity.
6. Shocking use of loan system.
7. No youth development in place.
8. Massive, massive disconnect between club and fans.
9. Arrogance from board that we’ll naturally get away from this level - just cos we are Falkirk.
10. No strategic 1, 5 or 10 year plan for the club.
There will be lots more but it’s 6am and I’m tired.


See tbh number is how a lot of your fans come across
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1 hour ago, bairn88 said:

I mean, you’re clearly at it. Clubs roughly “belong” somewhere mainly because of their budget. The bigger the budget, the higher up you belong. That’s why Celtic and Rangers finish top 2 every year. Why hearts, Aberdeen and hibs are usually in the top 6. When they aren’t, it’s down to their own failings. We are a basket case that deserves to be where we are due to over a decade of appalling everything. Does that mean we *should* be down here? No. Because our budget is bigger because we are a decent sized club. 

I would be inclined to split “the decade” line now. 2008-2014 culminated in a Scottish Cup final and a relatively exciting period of two years. Even off the pitch, was anything as bad as has been over the the last nearly 4 years? I know MR and SA are still lingering it appears but things have gone off a cliff since, well, Falkirk 0-3 Queen of the South under Houston.

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2 hours ago, BooBairn said:

I can’t think of a single thing that I like about the club just now. I hate the board. I hate Miller and McCracken. I hate the players. I hate Falkirk TV. I hate the awful fan pictures in the South Stand. I hate the astro. 

 

This list is not exhaustive. 

I really hate the AstroTurf too. It's shite. And contributes to the shite performances we see at home. 

I really want the next manager to have absolutely zero connection to the club.

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3 minutes ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

I really hate the AstroTurf too. It's shite. And contributes to the shite performances we see at home. 

I really want the next manager to have absolutely zero connection to the club.

Okay, that’s fine but many said that before Hartley and McKinnon. Just get the right man in!

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6 minutes ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

I really hate the AstroTurf too. It's shite. And contributes to the shite performances we see at home. 

I really want the next manager to have absolutely zero connection to the club.

The more I think about Darren Young the more I want him in. The zero connection is a big plus for me!

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We really need someone or a group of people who have the contact details of individual supporters clubs to mobilise the support and try and get as many of us to sing from the same hymn sheet in relation to season tickets.  Protesting outside the main stand 2 years ago done nothing, in fact if anything it hardened the MSG's stance against us. The only way to force change is through ST boycotts,no use moaning like f**k on social media then come May handing over £250 for your ST, you are basically giving them licence to continue as if nothing is wrong. We have to mobilise to get our club back fron the old b*****ds who are killing it.

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5 hours ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

Also mate, I think we are now further away from the top flight than we have ever been in our history for a large number of reasons :-

1. Terrible management on the field.

2. Terrible management off the field.

3. Really low standard across first team playing squad.

4. Lack of effort from players.

5. Appalling transfer market activity.

6. Shocking use of loan system.

7. No youth development in place.

8. Massive, massive disconnect between club and fans.

9. Arrogance from board that we’ll naturally get away from this level - just cos we are Falkirk.

10. No strategic 1, 5 or 10 year plan for the club.

There will be lots more but it’s 6am and I’m tired.

Ironically No. 7 was self inflicted and done to ensure No.3 wouldn't happen........we were told.

"Project Premiership" anyone?   

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7 minutes ago, Numbers_One_To_Eleven said:

I would be inclined to split “the decade” line now. 2008-2014 culminated in a Scottish Cup final and a relatively exciting period of two years. Even off the pitch, was anything as bad as has been over the the last nearly 4 years? I know MR and SA are still lingering it appears but things have gone off a cliff since, well, Falkirk 0-3 Queen of the South under Houston.

The year leading up to the cup final was absolutely turgid and we only stayed up because Higdon backsided a goal up at Inverness. The cup final run papered over some serious cracks.

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9 minutes ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

I really hate the AstroTurf too. It's shite. And contributes to the shite performances we see at home. 

I really want the next manager to have absolutely zero connection to the club.

But ..but......but... "M & M have Falkirk blood and gave us our identity back!" 🤣

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7 minutes ago, Gaz said:

The year leading up to the cup final was absolutely turgid and we only stayed up because Higdon backsided a goal up at Inverness. The cup final run papered over some serious cracks.

In addition to that, Houston's first season we finished 5th in Championship and it was largely grim watching as well. The cup run that year covered a largely poor league season (spare one or two highlights, eg. 3-2 away at Tynecastle).

2015-16 was the last time I genuinely looked forward to watching Falkirk week in, week out.  There was probably only 4 or 5 *really good footballers* in that team, but by god they were all full of fight and grafted for each other. They didn't know when they were beaten. We also played some decent stuff along the way. 2016-17 we finished 2nd again, but the standard was already on the decline. The rest, as they say...

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3 minutes ago, Harry Kinnear said:

We really need someone or a group of people who have the contact details of individual supporters clubs to mobilise the support and try and get as many of us to sing from the same hymn sheet in relation to season tickets.  Protesting outside the main stand 2 years ago done nothing, in fact if anything it hardened the MSG's stance against us. The only way to force change is through ST boycotts,no use moaning like f**k on social media then come May handing over £250 for your ST, you are basically giving them licence to continue as if nothing is wrong. We have to mobilise to get our club back fron the old b*****ds who are killing it.

Don't think a boycott will be required. There is a good chance the support will collapse as it did post Cunningham in the 1970's

Home support in the 7-8k in the halcyon days of the great man to 500 under Miller & Hagart.

People ain't going to buy season tickets them and will pick and chose the games. Compounded due to economics the many that can't afford to go to a game.

There is a danger of part time football at this club. 

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I haven't contributed any money to the club now for a couple of years.  After 35 years of season tickets, 50/50, shares etc just didn't want to do it anymore. no one I know goes anymore either, they all have up years ago. I'd like to want to enjoy it again and had a think about what's gone wrong and how for me there could be a reconnect.

(1) get the academy going again - we need a core of players who have a connection with the club, energy, play our way and can generate future transfer fees. we've seen so much dross the last few years who clearly arent motivated to do well for the club

(2) we need to find some way of buying the stadium and land, even if it's over 50 years at an affordable level. if we own it there will be a better connection as well as the revenue generating opportunities (per st johnstone) and not having to lose potential player revenue on rent. councils are strapped for cash surely some long term payment could be agreed? I'd happily pay an FFC lottery ticket type thing if I knew every penny of profit was going to the ground being owned again

(3) the brand of football we play has been terrible for a few years now.  it's not entertaining at all. if we are going to be down here at least have a go! 

(4) while we are in the 3rd tier why isn't every available penny going into the playing budget? we dont need 2managers, both are being paid,  one of those salaries could be on a player. do we need holt and the academy coach? surely 1 would be enough to get it off the ground? by all means expand it when we get back to the championship. thats 2 decent wages right there.  I dont know what we are spending elsewhere but these look like places we could save and invest in the team.

(5) there is a significant disconnect between club and fans. south stand naming for one. there are others on here better qualified to comment. however even the Twitter feed during matches is very poor. how hard is it?

could go on but cant believe how far we've fallen. should be an enjoyable pastime but just hasn't been for way too long now 

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