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1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said:

At least dowds puts himself about and creates goals like the one against cove. By the time O'hara moved on.he was contributing hee haw.

You could literally see the confidence drain from O'Hara as the months rolled on.

The player who burst onto the scene was not the same player who left under a cloud.

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12 hours ago, steveffc said:
12 hours ago, Hank von Hell said:
To refresh you memory then suggest you watch that 2nd goal at Ibrox again, great run by Cadette  onto a fabulous pass by Fulton. Carried the ball at pace towards the penalty box holding off the defender and a sublime finish - wonderful.      

Yeah I can mind that, was at game with my rangers supporting brother, not point im making though! ,, would you put your morgage on Dowds doing same,? Just think Francis better finisher,,

One can control a ball is the biggest difference between Dowds and Francis.

Francis has done himself no favours with his sub appearances lately to help his cause due to his poor ball control. I get it's hard being a sub and making a difference but the basics should be the easy part to look comfortable.

Francis has had the miss of the season so far for me and it's fair play for M&M trying to improve Francis as Miller himself is the better sub option by far..

I hope Francis does improve but he has to by quite a bit on his current showing

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Based on evidence so far, Francis simply isn't good enough.  I have my doubts that there is a player in there and doubt he'll feature much once Keena returns.  

Dowds appears to have more ability but is not an out an out striker.  I agree he also looks overweight and less pacy than Sammon so will most likely be benched when Keena is back.  I do think Dowds with the right coaching and fitness regime stands a better chance of becoming a player than Francis though.  

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I honestly do not understand how we continue to fully assess players who join the club based solely on a few games.
The reality is that players settle into a new team, new playing style and new teammates at different pace and there can often be behind the scenes reasons that impact that we are not aware of.
We are eight games into the season with a significantly new team that’s only just starting to get going IMO. We really need to stop being so quick to write players off.
Last season the trebuchet was out for Dixon, Sammon and Telfer...now they look intrinsic to the team.
Let’s give Francis a chance eh?....

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As someone has mentioned Dowds is clearly just big built and if he was actually overweight then our sports scientist checks in preseason would have sorted that out. It's just an easy cop out to call him overweight, have you seen how much of a shift he puts into a game?

He'll start scoring soon and I reckon we'll get at least 8 goals from him this season. At least this season we've got people chipping in with goals all over the park so we're not solely relying on Mcmanus scoring every week.

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57 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:

As someone has mentioned Dowds is clearly just big built and if he was actually overweight then our sports scientist checks in preseason would have sorted that out. It's just an easy cop out to call him overweight, have you seen how much of a shift he puts into a game?

He'll start scoring soon and I reckon we'll get at least 8 goals from him this season. At least this season we've got people chipping in with goals all over the park so we're not solely relying on Mcmanus scoring every week.

Despite missing the 1st third of the season I still reckon that Keena will easily be our top scorer. I think they're likely to try Sammon & Keena together, if for no other reason that they've not really played together so far and they'll want to see if it works. I agree that Dowds will score a few for us though.

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Keena comes straight back into the team when fit (obvs) and right now I reckon Sammon should be the other starter

No problem with Dowds and Francis battling it out for third choice, neither have looked excellent but haven't seen anywhere near enough to write either off

(for the love of f**k though comparing Francis to Cadette is straight racism, stop it )

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2 hours ago, roman_bairn said:

I honestly do not understand how we continue to fully assess players who join the club based solely on a few games.
The reality is that players settle into a new team, new playing style and new teammates at different pace and there can often be behind the scenes reasons that impact that we are not aware of.
We are eight games into the season with a significantly new team that’s only just starting to get going IMO. We really need to stop being so quick to write players off.
Last season the trebuchet was out for Dixon, Sammon and Telfer...now they look intrinsic to the team.
Let’s give Francis a chance eh?....

I dont think anyone is writing Francis off, its a case of you do your talking on the pitch and thats why he is on the bench.

Sammon on the otherhand has forced himself to be a first pick from his headflick for the equaliser against Partick and decent performances with a couple of goals.

As it stands the striker we wanted out of the club is the first one on the teamsheet at this time, which can change if any of our strikers showing what they can do on the pitch when given the chance. 

The maddest similarity I have ever heard of Francis and Cadette really frys my brain.  A close 2nd is suggesting he is a better finisher than others at the club, sorry I have faith in our management team to asses that and not some wild suggestion on a forum. I personally think he will struggle this season because at 21 he should be showing more if he has it to make it at this level which isnt that great. I hope I am wrong but so far he will need to improve a hell of a lot but its on his shoulders to do so. 

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15 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said:

Every time Bell hit the deck, half the South Stand spilled their Bovril. 

Add Toshney to that list

You could also add Johnstone and MacLean but no bovril was spilled with them 

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Here is where Francis sits in league performances so far.
If it’s correct he has scored 2 and assisted 2 in 360 mins on the pitch so far this season.
Hardly disastrous for a young player still finding his feet and he compares well with other established strikers at this point....IMG_0135.jpg

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