roman_bairn Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I read online the other day that the SPFL have the executive power to force reconstruction rather than via a ballot. Does anyone know if this is true? Faced with these increasing bills and the prospect of more sponsors pulling out, it may be the best chance we have of reconstruction being forced through. I’d love to believe this was the case but given the consultative nature that they have already adopted, any move to force changes through would probably be met with fierce resistance and be the end of Doncaster.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moutinho Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 David McCracken saying as few as 3 clubs in league 1 could be able to play next season. I can’t see us playing any football in the foreseeable future. https://www.scottishfootballforums.co.uk/2020/06/s9e58-david-mccracken-interview/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: I’d love to believe this was the case but given the consultative nature that they have already adopted, any move to force changes through would probably be met with fierce resistance and be the end of Doncaster.... God forbid there's consultation. Which do you want Doncaster to be, an autocrat or a democrat? His job is to facilitate the functioning of the league and the members wishes. He might be a diddy, but what has he done wrong here? You can't say he hasn't pushed reconstruction. If any group has complaints it's the majority who reject it and continually get it represented. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 God forbid there's consultation. Which do you want Doncaster to be, an autocrat or a democrat? His job is to facilitate the functioning of the league and the members wishes. He might be a diddy, but what has he done wrong here? You can't say he hasn't pushed reconstruction. If any group has complaints it's the majority who reject it and continually get it represented.Where did I discuss his rights or wrongs?I’m not against consultation with members but I am against any vote that is deliberately skewed to get the desired outcome of the big two or the top division.If voting is how we are to decide an outcome, make sure it’s that the majority rule, not the Old Firm rule..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: Where did I discuss his rights or wrongs? I’m not against consultation with members but I am against any vote that is deliberately skewed to get the desired outcome of the big two or the top division. If voting is how we are to decide an outcome, make sure it’s that the majority rule, not the Old Firm rule..... That's against the rules the clubs agreed to. You know perfectly well that different issues need different levels of majority. In any case reconstruction has lost every vote however you apply the voting permutations, including a straight majority. So did ending the season. Your flailing about, desperate for a chance Falkirk will go up. There's only 2, clubs going bust above you and the court case. Eta, the old firm have p!she'd very little part in this. Edited June 17, 2020 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 That's against the rules the clubs agreed to. You know perfectly well that different issues need different levels of majority. In any case reconstruction has lost every vote however you apply the voting permutations, including a straight majority. So did ending the season. Your flailing about, desperate for a chance Falkirk will go up. There's only 2, clubs going bust above you and the court case. Eta, the old firm have p!she'd very little part in this.I just knew you were going to try to turn this into a Falkirk promotion issue.I’ve said before, even yesterday, my concern is about the long term damage that is being done to our game out of self interested voting structures.I’m well aware that Falkirk would not have gained promotion irrespective, nor am I that bothered. As I said, Hearts, Thistle and Falkirk are all suffering due to underperforming. The issues are primarily due to what they did (or rather didn’t do), on the park, so no use complaining..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegrass Bairn Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: That's against the rules the clubs agreed to. You know perfectly well that different issues need different levels of majority. In any case reconstruction has lost every vote however you apply the voting permutations, including a straight majority. So did ending the season. Your flailing about, desperate for a chance Falkirk will go up. There's only 2, clubs going bust above you and the court case. Eta, the old firm have p!she'd very little part in this. Not disagreeing with your comments specifically, but genuinely - why should different issues need different levels of majority? And is 11-1 really a good bench-mark for decision making? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Dennistoun Bairn said: Not disagreeing with your comments specifically, but genuinely - why should different issues need different levels of majority? And is 11-1 really a good bench-mark for decision making? Thems the rules that were accepted when the SPFL was formed and leagues structured. They were accepted, primarily, because they came with an increase in money from the previous arrangements. More money, a few shots at Rangers on their return journey bought the clubs. Only an idiot would have agreed that voting structure, but there you go. How did Falkirk vote that time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 The ignore button is good but it's a shame you still see some posts when they have been quoted by other posters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegrass Bairn Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Thems the rules that were accepted when the SPFL was formed and leagues structured. They were accepted, primarily, because they came with an increase in money from the previous arrangements. More money, a few shots at Rangers on their return journey bought the clubs. Only an idiot would have agreed that voting structure, but there you go. How did Falkirk vote that time? Not really an answer though, SW, but at least we agree the 11-1 voting structure isn't exactly reasonable. And Falkirk weren't in the Premiership at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebobsboy Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 16/06/2020 at 12:43, Shadwell Dog said: He does. He has excellent feet and his finishing is decent. This is a guy that's played in the epl and spl and done well so it's not about ability. He should be able to play in this league comfortably but needs a team playing to his strengths of running the channels and needs a management team that can motivate him. He shouldn't need any motivation, his CV is decent enough. The fact he plays like he's just out for a kick about and is often just strolling about the park is ok if you have the class and skill to make the onion bag bulge a few times a game. Sadly he doesn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, ebobsboy said: He shouldn't need any motivation, his CV is decent enough. The fact he plays like he's just out for a kick about and is often just strolling about the park is ok if you have the class and skill to make the onion bag bulge a few times a game. Sadly he doesn't. It's a case of motivate or get rid. He's done it consistently at far higher levels than league one so ability isnt the problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Thistle are going to be given a wadge of cash that'll help them afford better players in the coming season aren't they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Thistle are going to be given a wadge of cash that'll help them afford better players in the coming season aren't they? Yeah you can bet you're last pound note that we'll be the ones shafted the most when this all comes to a conclusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 My source tells me a new rule means teams beginning with F are going to be given 3 home games and 24 away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: My source tells me a new rule means teams beginning with F are going to be given 3 home games and 24 away Seems fair! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: My source tells me a new rule means teams beginning with F are going to be given 3 home games and 24 away ...and it only needs a straight majority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Seems fair! Although I don't know what you're so happy about, being a supporter of Fucking Partick FC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Although I don't know what you're so happy about, being a supporter of Fucking Partick FC. Someone is a bit upset. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebobsboy Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: Thistle are going to be given a wadge of cash that'll help them afford better players in the coming season aren't they? They already have four better players in Graham, Rudden, Docherty and Lyons. That's without a wadge of cash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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