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14 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

There we go. 

And now try and understand why a vote that sees the majority of clubs either promoted, or retained in the same division, passed, and why its moronic to blame these clubs for voting for this.

Lawrence Shankland has a release clause in his contract if United didnt get promoted this season, if you void the season, what happens with that? Legally, voiding the season is an absolute minefield, and one that UEFA opposed entirely.

Why are you worrying about your rivals striker ? 
Contracts are worthless when the next pound rears it’s head 

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6 minutes ago, Bantabairn said:

Why are you worrying about your rivals striker ? 
Contracts are worthless when the next pound rears it’s head 

Im trying to explain why voiding the season wasnt an option.

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Just now, RandomGuy. said:

Im trying to explain why voiding the season wasnt an option.

It’s all about opinions, sincerely hope what ever happens in the  leagues you have another good season cheers 

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All games across the Championship, League One and League Two will be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed football will resume behind closed doors.

SPORTING INTEGRITY 

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1 hour ago, Reggie Perrin said:


Possibly the most feeble post in the history of P&B.

I don't hate it, but maybe would have gone with "Kelpie fuckers" myself

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I don't hate it, but maybe would have gone with "Kelpie fuckers" myself

If that’s your thing...

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34 minutes ago, Bantabairn said:

All games across the Championship, League One and League Two will be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed football will resume behind closed doors.

SPORTING INTEGRITY 

You need to learn to read. This is what the head of the EFL said...

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Our position at the moment is we want to finish the season on the pitch, and sporting integrity is of paramount importance. That is a line we are sticking to for as long as we humanly can.

Is it conceivable that there could be different solutions for different leagues? Frankly, anything is possible or conceivable and it would be daft to rule anything out because if this becomes increasingly serious and the financial situation becomes increasingly perilous then that is a fact of life we'll have to deal with.

For the next few weeks the focus is on finishing on the pitch and getting back to something approaching normality. But it's under review all the time and we will respond as we have to.

 

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17 hours ago, Bairn in Exile said:

I had an early night and have just woken up to the news that Partick Thistle have been unable to find the resolve to follow through on their threat of legal action against the SPFL. I am disappointed. It is what it is.

While I appreciate that every club voted in their best interests it doesn't hide that fact that their vote of 'yes' has negatively impacted on the club that I love and have supported for some 50 years.My auld man had a saying when it came to politics but I think that it also so applies to our current situation - "if you're no' fur us then you're agin us".

Why should our fans continue to line the coffers of clubs who actively voted to hurt us? Why should we take 1,500 fans up to Clyde twice a season, basically putting GBP50 - 60k into their bank account to sign players and to help them beat us 3 times this season like their fans love to boast about? The same goes for Airdrie, Peterhead, Montrose, Dumbarton and Forfar. Especially Forfar.

I would ask every Falkirk fan to think long and hard before they visit any of these clubs next season if, and I think that league reconstruction will fail, we are in the same league as them next season. Keep you money for the Bairns.

Now, I know the fun that an "away day" has to offer, I have been on many of them over the years. Obviously we will still be able to support the team on our travels to Firhill and New Bayview next season. However, if you really crave more of an away day "fix", and provided it doesn't clash with a home Falkirk FC fixture, why not go along and support, Hearts, Stranraer or Edinburgh City? Brothers in Arms and all that.

Actions have consequences, hopefully,  and I hope that sufficient of you view this as I do and will stop travelling to certain away games.

COYB.

😂😂 What a state to get yourself in 

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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:

In another season, absolutely.

In a season where a worldwide pandemic shuts down the planet, and forces all sport to stop for at least 5 months, and the season only has 3 months to go? 

Every single club, including your own, vote for what's best for them in every single vote like this. Always have, and frankly it's a competitive sport so they always will. The only reason Falkirk are opposing it is because they dont benefit.

If you were 1pt clear at the top of the Championship, and this got you promoted, would you expect your club to vote no because Forfar were only 1pt behind Arbroath at the top of League One? 

You know they wouldnt oppose it, so all this talk about boycotts etc., is just proper toys out the pram stuff entirely because your club has been too poor to take advantage of the situation.

If you want toys out the pram, you should look elsewhere - this statement from Raith, for example; “Our position is clear: We want the 2019-20 season declared over, funds distributed and discussion about reconstruction to start very soon.
Any attempt to deem the 2019/20 season null and void and deny us being named as winners of League 1 and/or not promoted will be vigorously resisted”.

Now that is toys out the pram. Falkirk have been nothing but practical and pragmatic about this vote, given the horrendous situation this illness has brought about. To vehemently claim to be champions with that statement is very embarrasing and desperate and would really worry me as a Raith fan. They were absolutely correct to vote yes, as we would have done if we’d been top by a point. All talk of boycotts is nonsense. But can’t help but feel the point and laugh at Falkirk is extremely misguided given what’s going to happen to some clubs in the coming year or 2.

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All this talk of boycott for me is pish we all go to football home or away for our entertainment if this vote angers people so much they lose that I suggest they stop going altogether or they will just turn themselves into sevco types 

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24 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

You need to learn to read. This is what the head of the EFL said...

 

Yes that’s where I got it from 

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3 hours ago, kerly said:

All this talk of boycott for me is pish we all go to football home or away for our entertainment if this vote angers people so much they lose that I suggest they stop going altogether or they will just turn themselves into sevco types 

Entertainment? Theres been hee haw of that in league one.  I'd boycott forfar just to say feck you to their chairman for telling everyone that they were voting yes to have falkirk and thistle in the same league as them.  Otherwise no.

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The whole of Scottish football is rank rotten.
I suggest we rip it up and start again.  (cue for a song there for the auld yins)

A song very nearly as annoying as the clueless tit Neil Doncaster.

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13 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Entertainment? Theres been hee haw of that in league one.  I'd boycott forfar just to say feck you to their chairman for telling everyone that they were voting yes to have falkirk and thistle in the same league as them.  Otherwise no.

The only entertainment has been how utterly unprofessional this whole saga has been handled by fucking just about everyone involved.  Just when you think Scottish football can't be any more shambolic something always comes up to surprise you. Scottish footballs problems, all of them, are entirely self made

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22 hours ago, Bantabairn said:

My point is that we have now confirmed champions and relegated teams without seeing out our full fixtures, and as said  immoral shambolic and against our constitution.

This season should have been called null & void if we can’t finish the fixtures.

Two proposals which would leave Falkirk in the exact same position, of playing in League One whenever the 20/21 season can begin. So why is one a moral outrage in which clubs have voted to hurt Falkirk and should be boycotted for inflicting that injustice on you, while the other is absolutely fine and the only acceptable outcome?

Obviously finishing the season would be the preferred outcome for everyone, but it isn't possible and like everyone else you know this. So you have a choice between calling it as it stands based on the three quarters of the season which have been played, or scrapping it all.

It's obviously desperately unlucky for any club to be a point off the top or survival at the point the season is called early and miss out that way, but null and void would see you miss out too and have just as many clubs hard done by as calling it early. This way we still have some kind of judgement made on merit of performances so far, rather than denying promotions to everyone and bailing out teams heading for relegations. As you say yourself it's an entirely unprecedented situation that needs an unprecedented solution, so why is that solution such an outrage?

The choice between null and void or calling it early isn't a choice between fucking Falkirk over or being fair to Falkirk - it's a choice between Partick losing out with Raith getting lucky or Raith losing out with Partick getting lucky. The impact on Falkirk is the exact same in either scenario.

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37 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

Two proposals which would leave Falkirk in the exact same position, of playing in League One whenever the 20/21 season can begin. So why is one a moral outrage in which clubs have voted to hurt Falkirk and should be boycotted for inflicting that injustice on you, while the other is absolutely fine and the only acceptable outcome?

Obviously finishing the season would be the preferred outcome for everyone, but it isn't possible and like everyone else you know this. So you have a choice between calling it as it stands based on the three quarters of the season which have been played, or scrapping it all.

It's obviously desperately unlucky for any club to be a point off the top or survival at the point the season is called early and miss out that way, but null and void would see you miss out too and have just as many clubs hard done by as calling it early. This way we still have some kind of judgement made on merit of performances so far, rather than denying promotions to everyone and bailing out teams heading for relegations. As you say yourself it's an entirely unprecedented situation that needs an unprecedented solution, so why is that solution such an outrage?

The choice between null and void or calling it early isn't a choice between fucking Falkirk over or being fair to Falkirk - it's a choice between Partick losing out with Raith getting lucky or Raith losing out with Partick getting lucky. The impact on Falkirk is the exact same in either scenario.

Would've been far better if there had been strict rules in place for what actually happens when a season is ended before completion.  I mean is there any plans to put this into the rules and regs constitution or if the same thing happens in a future season do we have to go through this same shambles all over again. Nothing surprises me about the spfl mind you.

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6 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Would've been far better if there had been strict rules in place for what actually happens when a season is ended before completion.  I mean is there any plans to put this into the rules and regs constitution or if the same thing happens in a future season do we have to go through this same shambles all over again. Nothing surprises me about the spfl mind you.

Yes.

It's a shambles that the SPFL, and seemingly every other footballing association on the planet, dont have rules in place for when a worldwide pandemic rules out sporting events for 6 months.

They're useless.

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