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These are unprecedented times, which will see the highest court in football instruct our SFA/SPFL with guidance on what should be implemented during this horrendous period when half the world is nearing complete lockdown.
Not sure what the guidance or instructions will be, but it’s clear that this virus has been grossly underestimated and with the governments latest information, it’s clear that this virus will be with us for a long time.  
 
There have been several experts saying that they hope to see the “curve” flattening in around 3/4 months. In my opinion that’s extreme optimism, and I suspect that it’s going to be a hellava lot more than the quoted period. Not just football but all sports will be under severe pressures.
I have no factual information on the financial position of our 38 clubs, but like thousand of businesses I suspect many clubs will simply run out of cash very soon or if not already and without serious injection of monies, clubs will fold. 
Unchartered territories for all clubs, and regardless of whatever is decided today, it’s clear there’s going to be no football for the foreseeable future.  Unfortunately like many businesses I expect that a large amount of footballers will be released or/and contracts ripped up very soon.
No doubt our SPL will look after themselves and I see Hearts & Rangers already threatening dummies out the pram if they don’t get the season finished, some things never change.....

Reading the guidance issued by Uefa to the Scottish league the likely outcome is that if no more games are played then we can bump our gums all we want but the league title is likely to be handed to RR and the playoffs could conceivably be cancelled!

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13 minutes ago, Stainrod said:


Reading the guidance issued by Uefa to the Scottish league the likely outcome is that if no more games are played then we can bump our gums all we want but the league title is likely to be handed to RR and the playoffs could conceivably be cancelled!

Personally I think your on the money, still think that if it goes that way, it takes the blame away from the terrible, unacceptable leadership by our BOD MSG, and if we don’t go under at least another year or possibly more in the lower leagues to look forward to.  The only positive I can see is that many of the imposters wont be there ( well hoping )

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1 hour ago, Back Post Misses said:

 


Seems like I am on the mend now

 

Good to hear BPM, speedy recovery mate

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1 hour ago, Bantabairn said:

Personally I think your on the money, still think that if it goes that way, it takes the blame away from the terrible, unacceptable leadership by our BOD MSG, and if we don’t go under at least another year or possibly more in the lower leagues to look forward to.  The only positive I can see is that many of the imposters wont be there ( well hoping )

One of the proposals funnily enough from Partick Thistle was the top 2 in each league get promoted the Premiership runs with 2 extra teams for a year then revert back to the same.  Hearts looking to challenge any decision on them being relegated in the courts.

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13 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

One of the proposals funnily enough from Partick Thistle was the top 2 in each league get promoted the Premiership runs with 2 extra teams for a year then revert back to the same.  Hearts looking to challenge any decision on them being relegated in the courts.

Posted earlier that the ex Partick MD is now the chief of SFA, very surprised that Partick have came out with this proposal - NOT !!

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I am having to self isolate, having some of the symptoms.   Probably a winter illness but both myself and my partner are in a high-risk group and have poor general health at the best of times.   Take care of yourselves and your families.  xx

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54 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:

One of the proposals funnily enough from Partick Thistle was the top 2 in each league get promoted the Premiership runs with 2 extra teams for a year then revert back to the same.  Hearts looking to challenge any decision on them being relegated in the courts.

It is an option but here is another.

REASONING. We do not know if there will be a football season 2020-21 or if there is when it starts.

PROPOSAL. Season suspended. Remaining games played to complete the season when the situation allowed. That would be 2 games a week for 4 - 5 weeks at the most. Agreed closedown to allow for the usual transfer window and closed season comings and goings. Season then restarts and if required the season runs in to the summer months in 2021. It would be an experiment into the benefits of summer football.

ADVANTAGES. Fair and reasonable to all.

DISADVANTAGES. Cannot see any.

Any comments folks ? just a suggestion.

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Okay, here goes. I expect to get bucket loads of shit but there comes a time when, someone needs to speak up.

I was struck by a letter in Saturdays Telegraph by a 93 year old retired GP who stated that in the 50s and 60s nobody would have known anything about coronovirus and the uptick in flu and related deaths would have been put down to a ‘bad year’. There would have been no disruption to normal life, no stock market crash, no businesses going burst, no millions of redundancies. Basically life would have gone on with a higher than normal death rate.

Maybe I’m missing something, but the number of deaths don’t seem to be all that high.
I appreciate that the main reason for the restrictions is to alleviate the pressure on the NHS but surely we could bring in emergency premises.

I thought the idea of bringing in to service grounded planes to use their oxygen facilities is worth considering.

At the end of the day, I just don’t think it’s worth trashing our way of life to save a few lives.

I am 75.

 

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4 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Okay, here goes. I expect to get bucket loads of shit but there comes a time when, someone needs to speak up.

I was struck by a letter in Saturdays Telegraph by a 93 year old retired GP who stated that in the 50s and 60s nobody would have known anything about coronovirus and the uptick in flu and related deaths would have been put down to a ‘bad year’. There would have been no disruption to normal life, no stock market crash, no businesses going burst, no millions of redundancies. Basically life would have gone on with a higher than normal death rate.

Maybe I’m missing something, but the number of deaths don’t seem to be all that high.
I appreciate that the main reason for the restrictions is to alleviate the pressure on the NHS but surely we could bring in emergency premises.

I thought the idea of bringing in to service grounded planes to use their oxygen facilities is worth considering.

At the end of the day, I just don’t think it’s worth trashing our way of life to save a few lives.

I am 75.

 

And who caused the NHS to be so badly prepared and under funded? Your beloved Tory Party, that's who.

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You can bet your mortgage that whatever happens it will be something that kicks FFC right in the hee-haws.

Whatever solution is found, FFC will be in the worst possible situation for being promoted.

One going up and one going down from each  league and no play-offs is what I see happening.

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They've already ruled out league reconstruction other than Celtic then all the other teams  basically still have something to play for, null and void the season if we cant get it started before August.

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9 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Okay, here goes. I expect to get bucket loads of shit but there comes a time when, someone needs to speak up.

I was struck by a letter in Saturdays Telegraph by a 93 year old retired GP who stated that in the 50s and 60s nobody would have known anything about coronovirus and the uptick in flu and related deaths would have been put down to a ‘bad year’. There would have been no disruption to normal life, no stock market crash, no businesses going burst, no millions of redundancies. Basically life would have gone on with a higher than normal death rate.

Maybe I’m missing something, but the number of deaths don’t seem to be all that high.
I appreciate that the main reason for the restrictions is to alleviate the pressure on the NHS but surely we could bring in emergency premises.

I thought the idea of bringing in to service grounded planes to use their oxygen facilities is worth considering.

At the end of the day, I just don’t think it’s worth trashing our way of life to save a few lives.

I am 75.

 

What a massive c**t. 

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1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Okay, here goes. I expect to get bucket loads of shit but there comes a time when, someone needs to speak up.

I was struck by a letter in Saturdays Telegraph by a 93 year old retired GP who stated that in the 50s and 60s nobody would have known anything about coronovirus and the uptick in flu and related deaths would have been put down to a ‘bad year’. There would have been no disruption to normal life, no stock market crash, no businesses going burst, no millions of redundancies. Basically life would have gone on with a higher than normal death rate.

Maybe I’m missing something, but the number of deaths don’t seem to be all that high.
I appreciate that the main reason for the restrictions is to alleviate the pressure on the NHS but surely we could bring in emergency premises.

I thought the idea of bringing in to service grounded planes to use their oxygen facilities is worth considering.

At the end of the day, I just don’t think it’s worth trashing our way of life to save a few lives.

I am 75.

 

I can understand your train of thought the biggest issue is it doesnt matter how long a life you have lived or what age you are no one wants to lose a loved one. Some people have not or will never see that age.  If you look at the stats 17000 people in the England died of the flu or flu like symptoms last year appreciate we are nowhere near those stats but the fact this is highly contagious and doesnt matter what your fitness level or age you are it can still kill.

The biggest thing is we still do not know how its spread which is why we are at the place we are at at present so would intend to go with carry on as normal as much as you can but mitigate the circumstances where you are exposing yourself to it.

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1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Okay, here goes. I expect to get bucket loads of shit but there comes a time when, someone needs to speak up.

I was struck by a letter in Saturdays Telegraph by a 93 year old retired GP who stated that in the 50s and 60s nobody would have known anything about coronovirus and the uptick in flu and related deaths would have been put down to a ‘bad year’. There would have been no disruption to normal life, no stock market crash, no businesses going burst, no millions of redundancies. Basically life would have gone on with a higher than normal death rate.

Maybe I’m missing something, but the number of deaths don’t seem to be all that high.
I appreciate that the main reason for the restrictions is to alleviate the pressure on the NHS but surely we could bring in emergency premises.

I thought the idea of bringing in to service grounded planes to use their oxygen facilities is worth considering.

At the end of the day, I just don’t think it’s worth trashing our way of life to save a few lives.

I am 75.

 

COVID19 has significantly higher mortality rate than the flu. Unlike the flu you can be contagious for weeks without developing symptoms, nobody is immune to the virus, and there’s no vaccine — so many more people will end up catching it than those who catch the flu if we don’t act.

There's potential for enormous chunks of the population needing medical care at once. Larbert hospital for example doesn’t have the space (860 beds), equipment, or staffing to have thousands of people in A+E at once. With the Falkirk areas 65-75+ population of 30,000, even 1%+ of that is going to be a disaster resource wise.

People with coronavirus or normal flu who would otherwise survive will die because there isn’t space for them, or there’s a delay in getting the necessary treatment. Another factor is people with unrelated problems who aren't able to get treated.

It's absolutely worth it for this sustained period of battening down the hatches to save lives and help the NHS. America for example If the worst-case estimates do happen, over 1.5 million Americans die from COVID19.

America and Britain's total civilian and military loss over WW2? — 870,300 people

Keep Calm and Carry On though eh! 🇬🇧

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6 minutes ago, superandy_07 said:

COVID19 has significantly higher mortality rate than the flu. Unlike the flu you can be contagious for weeks without developing symptoms, nobody is immune to the virus, and there’s no vaccine — so many more people will end up catching it than those who catch the flu if we don’t act.

There's potential for enormous chunks of the population needing medical care at once. Larbert hospital for example doesn’t have the space (860 beds), equipment, or staffing to have thousands of people in A+E at once. With the Falkirk areas 65-75+ population of 30,000, even 1%+ of that is going to be a disaster resource wise.

People with coronavirus or normal flu who would otherwise survive will die because there isn’t space for them, or there’s a delay in getting the necessary treatment. Another factor is people with unrelated problems who aren't able to get treated.

It's absolutely worth it for this sustained period of battening down the hatches to save lives and help the NHS. America for example If the worst-case estimates do happen, over 1.5 million Americans die from COVID19.

America and Britain's total civilian and military loss over WW2? — 870,300 people

Keep Calm and Carry On though eh! 🇬🇧

You may well be correct but I just think we should at least consider the alternative.

Like most things in life, there are swings and roundabouts, and we must weigh up the pros and cons of all the possible strategies.

No point in just ‘following the herd’, no matter how qualified they may be.

There needs to be an open debate on this.

 

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14 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

There needs to be an open debate on this.

No there doesn't, that's how stupid misinformation such as "the death rate isn't that high" gets trotted out by morons like you.

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17 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

You may well be correct but I just think we should at least consider the alternative.

Like most things in life, there are swings and roundabouts, and we must weigh up the pros and cons of all the possible strategies.

No point in just ‘following the herd’, no matter how qualified they may be.

There needs to be an open debate on this.

 

Yeah, we should make sure that everyone has a valid input into how to manage this, regardless of their qualification.  You are certainly as valuable as anyone who has spent a lifetime studying contagion.  After all, you read a letter in the Telegraph. 

I think we've all had enough of experts.

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3 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Okay, here goes. I expect to get bucket loads of shit but there comes a time when, someone needs to speak up.

I was struck by a letter in Saturdays Telegraph by a 93 year old retired GP who stated that in the 50s and 60s nobody would have known anything about coronovirus and the uptick in flu and related deaths would have been put down to a ‘bad year’. There would have been no disruption to normal life, no stock market crash, no businesses going burst, no millions of redundancies. Basically life would have gone on with a higher than normal death rate.

Maybe I’m missing something, but the number of deaths don’t seem to be all that high.
I appreciate that the main reason for the restrictions is to alleviate the pressure on the NHS but surely we could bring in emergency premises.

I thought the idea of bringing in to service grounded planes to use their oxygen facilities is worth considering.

At the end of the day, I just don’t think it’s worth trashing our way of life to save a few lives.

I am 75.

 

So you don't think it's worth it to temporarily change the way you do some things just to save a few lives.   That's what a sociopath might say.  One of those lives might be mine or someone you are related to you.    Shame on you but then I doubt if you will be capable of that emotion.   My partner and I have just started isolation because we show some symptoms, not just to protect us BUT TO AVOID GIVING IT TO SOMEONE LIKE YOU.   I come into contact with older people in my job everyday and I care they are not put at risk.  I have a low paid job and this will screw up our finances dramatically but I care for my fellow human beings, especially the vulnerable ones.

Edited by Long Suffering Bairn

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