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On 15/02/2020 at 12:31, Marshmallo said:

No chance are the Shire paying more than any side in the Championship. They'll have a couple of guys on a bit more than Stranraer are paying the majority of their squad but that budget is nowhere near any side at tier 2.

£600+ a week part time, at least 3 players on that. They’ve got an investor who is being benevolent in light of a life long shire fan is what I heard - from one of the players. 

We had players on that sort of money when in championship....

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3 minutes ago, BountyBairn said:

£600+ a week part time, at least 3 players on that. They’ve got an investor who is being benevolent in light of a life long shire fan is what I heard - from one of the players. 

We had players on that sort of money when in championship....

Which players are on 600 a week or more?

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Change will only come with change of ownership.
 
 

Or a partial change of ownership might be enough to do the trick. If that were to happen, the newcomers would have to be up for doing the micro and the macro (which would be no bad thing).

Interesting that since the new chairman took the helm, and there was a wee hint of possibly something new, it all seems to have fallen into the same old pattern of zero communication.

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Change will only come with change of ownership.
 
 

Or a partial change of ownership might be enough to do the trick. If that were to happen, the newcomers would have to be up for doing the micro and the macro (which would be no bad thing).

Interesting that since the new chairman took the helm, and there was a wee hint of possibly something new, it all seems to have fallen into the same old pattern of zero communication.

Perhaps they’ve realised that pretty much every time they do communicate nowadays it’s a case of foot in mouth.
I’m quite enjoying the silence for a change....
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8 minutes ago, endieinreekie said:

Ahead of our forthcoming titanic clash, does one have to pay to park at the stadium? 

You will probably find the answer is yes, but can you can get parked close enough using the college car park 5 min walk from there

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The silence is deafening, and in my opinion the absolute shambles/debacle with the taxi driver, leaves us further detached and broken as a club. My guess is that they have tried to balance the books with paying off the Tidsers etc, resulting in the shallow squad.
Most likely praying we can get up with so low numbers. I don’t think there is any plan b, and interesting to here what manifests in the next few weeks, our most critical set of fixtures for many a season. 


The silence since MC was kicked out is not doing any good IMO.
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13 hours ago, Duncan Freemason said:


Change will only come with change of ownership.
 
 

Or a partial change of ownership might be enough to do the trick. If that were to happen, the newcomers would have to be up for doing the micro and the macro (which would be no bad thing).

Interesting that since the new chairman took the helm, and there was a wee hint of possibly something new, it all seems to have fallen into the same old pattern of zero communication.

The people in charge are business people that have a track record of success. What comes over them when they take charge of Falkirk resembles the Marx Brothers.

Make a statement on the clubs future.

Sound business plan with achievable goals in the planned timeline. The right people employed to achieve these objectives. KPI's ( key performance indicators ) so progress can be measured. Review - Revise - Action and back again so the business plan is on track.

St Johnstone are a template of a club comparable to Falkirk that got it correct. But we blew it, and my we did it is style.

It is going to be a long term plan if we are to get to their level. With unpopular decisions to be taken.

1. Promotion this season is a must and consolidate ourselves in the league. 

2. Youth policy to once again produce our own players. it will take 5-10 years but will be worth it.

3. Buy the stadium and surrounding land outright so the club has an asset it can borrow against in hard times and be a consistent income stream. At present every pound we spend a cut goes to the council and that has to change.  I read somewhere St Johnstone make a fortune on wedding receptions and funeral teas at their ground.

4. 4th Stand-Hotel-Health Spa etc only when we own the rest of the complex.

Appreciate this is not what many want to hear. But in the long term it is the correct thing to do.

Any thoughts ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, BairnBrainBrian said:

I remember Shire players being on £10  a week. But they made a good wage out of betting against themselves on the fixed odds coupon almost every week. (allegedly ;) )

 

Always had a soft spot for Shire. They had a classic song. Shirie is a great wee team geeza goal=geezagoal-gezzagoal. If its fitba yer after ! don't go to Brockville. Shirie is a great wee tem geezagoal-geezagoal-geezagoal. 

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32 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said:

The people in charge are business people that have a track record of success. What comes over them when they take charge of Falkirk resembles the Marx Brothers.

Make a statement on the clubs future.

Sound business plan with achievable goals in the planned timeline. The right people employed to achieve these objectives. KPI's ( key performance indicators ) so progress can be measured. Review - Revise - Action and back again so the business plan is on track.

St Johnstone are a template of a club comparable to Falkirk that got it correct. But we blew it, and my we did it is style.

It is going to be a long term plan if we are to get to their level. With unpopular decisions to be taken.

1. Promotion this season is a must and consolidate ourselves in the league. 

2. Youth policy to once again produce our own players. it will take 5-10 years but will be worth it.

3. Buy the stadium and surrounding land outright so the club has an asset it can borrow against in hard times and be a consistent income stream. At present every pound we spend a cut goes to the council and that has to change.  I read somewhere St Johnstone make a fortune on wedding receptions and funeral teas at their ground.

4. 4th Stand-Hotel-Health Spa etc only when we own the rest of the complex.

Appreciate this is not what many want to hear. But in the long term it is the correct thing to do.

Any thoughts ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Craig Campbell made a big thing of KPI's and mission statements which are ultimately meaningless when you're losing football matches. 

St. Johnstone's 'template' was Asda offering to buy their ground and being gifted land by a local farmer - can't think of any other club that had such luck tbh. 

I agree that we need to develop TFS but if we were copying St. Johnstone then we wouldn't bother... remember them wanting to demolish a stand in favour of a commuter link road! 

We're getting 4,000 in the 3rd tier but a lot of that is just offsetting the ridiculous stadium deal we've got and the council aren't going to give up that up unless we pay way over the odds! 

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40 minutes ago, Bula Bairn said:

Craig Campbell made a big thing of KPI's and mission statements which are ultimately meaningless when you're losing football matches. 

St. Johnstone's 'template' was Asda offering to buy their ground and being gifted land by a local farmer - can't think of any other club that had such luck tbh. 

I agree that we need to develop TFS but if we were copying St. Johnstone then we wouldn't bother... remember them wanting to demolish a stand in favour of a commuter link road! 

We're getting 4,000 in the 3rd tier but a lot of that is just offsetting the ridiculous stadium deal we've got and the council aren't going to give up that up unless we pay way over the odds! 

Agree ! the council played a blinder on this. They sold their own land at inflated prices to the stadium company they had a major share in due to the Hotel that was going to be built. In other words they moved their own money around and got a larger share of the stadium.  As soon as the ink was dry ! low and behold the blast zone became public and no hotel FFC got well and truly screwed. The club can't move the council would not give planning permission so we are stuck where we are. Unfortunately if we want to progress then we have to buy the Stadium Company with the price premium.

What is not realised with the stadium gone the council were able to sell the Incinerator site, Bleachfield and the waste ground between them to J K Miller at better price due to the combined land package.

 

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What do folk think our chances of keeping McManus beyond this season are?

I reckon it pretty much hinges on us going up. Can't see us affording him, or him wanting to stay, if we're in the Seaside Leagues for another year. Reckon we'd have a decent chance if we were to go up to the Championship though.

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