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12 hours ago, TxRover said:

 

We understand that loan agreements are tailored to serve two purposes; that of the loaning club, to see a player get playing time, and that if the receiving club, to get an otherwise unavailable player to assist them.

 

We should be I

I didn't read much further but we have a young keeper (Calum Ferrie)on loan from Dundee who will be lucky to get one game.

Loans will come down to contacts, cash, unwanted players at current club and in some cases young players getting experience.

You have got McLean due to him being unwanted at Hearts and we have got Ferrie for probably making a contribution to his wage and not to give him more experience as he has been on the Dundee bench most weeks recently.

 

5 hours ago, Back Post Misses said:

 


He is done. 6 months 4 months however long it is he is done. If he wasn't he would play in front of the two who are in and out of the team more often than we have hot dinners.

 

It's something no one can answer till he makes an appearance. 

I think it would cause a bit friction if he came on before McMillan or Sammon and it would probably take him a few games to get up to scratch.

Ideally we should get someone in if Miller is only there to make up the numbers because we are getting random good games from both Sammon and McMillan which is hurting us.

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Well it's certainly not for me to comment until I actually see him try and play but he's 1 year younger than the guy upfront for Raith and I watched him come on for Livi against the current Scottish champions just prior to taking our job.

Certainly Livi and Holt don't agree with your assessment of Lee.

 

So why has he not used himself?

 

None of our current forwards could play in the Premiership so if he is so up to it pull on the jersey. He knows himself he has gone I would suggest or he would be playing

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It's something no one can answer till he makes an appearance. 
I think it would cause a bit friction if he came on before McMillan or Sammon and it would probably take him a few games to get up to scratch.
Ideally we should get someone in if Miller is only there to make up the numbers because we are getting random good games from both Sammon and McMillan which is hurting us.


Of course it is. If he was better than what we have he would be playing and McCracken would insist on it. Why would he not play? They are here to win this league and should pick the best 11 every week. He has not had a minute of game time since Jan 1. Does that suggest to you he thinks he is better than the three who have played up top?

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33 minutes ago, falkirkzombie said:

Why is Andy Thomson still tucking into free pies in the Boardroom? home and away, thought we got shot of him.

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1 hour ago, Back Post Misses said:

 


Of course it is. If he was better than what we have he would be playing and McCracken would insist on it. Why would he not play? They are here to win this league and should pick the best 11 every week. He has not had a minute of game time since Jan 1. Does that suggest to you he thinks he is better than the three who have played up top?
 

 

If he has anything to offer though, I would for sure have him up top with McManus in a heartbeat but Miller himself has said he is here for emergencies only, which suggest his body has took a hammering at Livvy. Miller has had his fair share of injuries over the years and ideally if we had a reserve team we would have more of an idea where he is but we dont.

I think it would take an injury or suspension to one of our three strikers to see him on the park tbh

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4 minutes ago, MrDust said:

If he has anything to offer though, I would for sure have him up top with McManus in a heartbeat but Miller himself has said he is here for emergencies only, which suggest his body has took a hammering at Livvy. Miller has had its fair share of injuries over the years and ideally if we had a reserve team we would have more of an idea where he is but we dont.

I think it would take an injury or suspension to one of our three strikers to see him on the park tbh

Or a last 25 minute burst off the bench. Think that would be the most likely option.

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22 minutes ago, Crawford Baptie said:


Due to him being a sponging p***k?

I heard through the grapevine he had a new post at the club but surely a load of bollocks. Cant have staff who have assaulted other members allowed back.

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3 hours ago, MrDust said:

We should be I

I didn't read much further but we have a young keeper (Calum Ferrie)on loan from Dundee who will be lucky to get one game.

Loans will come down to contacts, cash, unwanted players at current club and in some cases young players getting experience.

You have got McLean due to him being unwanted at Hearts and we have got Ferrie for probably making a contribution to his wage and not to give him more experience as he has been on the Dundee bench most weeks recently.

Correction accepted.

The young keeper is presumably less cost than the deadly departed Bell, so fulfills the backup role better. I assume Dundee was never going to use him, as he was their #3 keeper, so they save some money and laddie may get a game. Either way, he also actually plays in practice more too, so that tracks.
 

My original question was if M & M might be lacking some connections to find the best loan deals, but apparently most feel not.

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1 hour ago, TxRover said:

Correction accepted.

The young keeper is presumably less cost than the deadly departed Bell, so fulfills the backup role better. I assume Dundee was never going to use him, as he was their #3 keeper, so they save some money and laddie may get a game. Either way, he also actually plays in practice more too, so that tracks.
 

My original question was if M & M might be lacking some connections to find the best loan deals, but apparently most feel not.

Ferrie was on the bench for Dundee bar 3 games this season which he will swap for a division below's bench and wont get game time other than injuries or suspension.

Lee Miller has had 11 clubs and David McCracken has had 8 clubs and like Miller throughout the country, I am pretty sure they will have contacts.

The downfall at this time of year for loans will be that the better ones cost serious £s to get in, see McManus

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1 minute ago, MrDust said:

Ferrie was on the bench for Dundee bar 3 games this season which he will swap for a division below's bench and wont get game time other than injuries or suspension.

Lee Miller has had 11 clubs and David McCracken has had 8 clubs and like Miller throughout the country, I am pretty sure they will have contacts.

The downfall at this time of year for loans will be that the better ones cost serious £s to get in, see McManus

You ain’t whistling Dixie about the cost of loans right now. I get the feeling we got lucky with MacLean because he was on the outs with the coaching staff, and they were as happy to see him gone as we were to take him. Possibly got a relative steal, we’ll see how it pans out.

Didn't realize M&M had than many teams between them, so that certainly helps.

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It might be different as a player manager on his own but Miller has come here to have a crack at management along with McCracken. He wants to be a manager. I dont think he is somehow shot to pieces so soon after playing a fair bit. I think Miller is probably more worried and becoming a member of the squad and McCracken becoming the guy. And I dont mean that theres any animosity between the two, I think they are working hard together to keep this job and Miller wont want to distract from that.

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It might be different as a player manager on his own but Miller has come here to have a crack at management along with McCracken. He wants to be a manager. I dont think he is somehow shot to pieces so soon after playing a fair bit. I think Miller is probably more worried and becoming a member of the squad and McCracken becoming the guy. And I dont mean that theres any animosity between the two, I think they are working hard together to keep this job and Miller wont want to distract from that.


If he felt he was the best option he would play

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If he felt he was the best option he would play
If he doesnt feel he can do as good or better a 20 minute cameo than David McMillan he has no business in football in any shape or form.

I personally think he wishes not to undermine his shot at a managerial career in any way and that is playing a big part in it.

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If he doesnt feel he can do as good or better a 20 minute cameo than David McMillan he has no business in football in any shape or form.

I personally think he wishes not to undermine his shot at a managerial career in any way and that is playing a big part in it.


Not going up will undermine it full stop. If he believes he was in shape to be better than Sammon and McMillan he would be playing and McCracken would be telling him that

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9 hours ago, ShaggerG said:

Don't agree with that at all.

If it came to a 1 on 1 foot race between one of our forwards and a defender I know which forward I would want in there. As I said, he lacks a lot of qualities but he's strong and fast and actually quite good with the ball at his feet. Come to think of it, he doesn't often miss chances when they come his way either.

I think he could do a decent job against Hearts because they'll adopt a much higher line than we're used to and are likely to leave gaps at the back.

He may seem fast relative to the cloggers in Div 3, I would imagine it would be another kettle of fish v Hertz. I don't even know who they play at the back now Berra has gone.....I think Souter is one?

It will be interesting to see how we fare against a Premiership team , albeit a pretty poor one this season. 

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I think we would fare a helluva lot better if Naismith was out injured. He seems to be the one that makes hearts tick. Take him out and they have been pretty poor. Although Boyce looks a threat up front for them now. 

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