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2 minutes ago, MrDust said:

Back to sitting the fence again

That seems to be your go to, once you have got through missing the point completely and the various other tangents you like to go off on. Anyway, my question was directed at BPM. You havent addressed or even understood it , so maybe best just leave it there. You dont seem to be grasping anything I am saying to you. 

You also dont seem to understand what sitting on the fence means, and not for the first time either. 

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Is it not true then that its BtB and namely you and KJ who are allegedly doing all the shit stirring? I only ask because every accusation as far as MC goes seems to trace back to you both. I say that as a neutral in this because I backed the current board to continue. 

Take your “How to Operate Covertly” manual back to whoever sold it to you, and ask for your money back. Christ, the innocent newbie persona didn’t hold up for long.

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You haven’t asked any awkward questions, you have just came on with an initially hidden agenda and look a bit foolish for doing so in my opinion.

It kind of just reflects of what I feel the whole charade around the club is.

I don’t want MC near my club, for the simple reason I do not trust his track record, the way he’s conducting himself or having one single majority owner.

I also didn’t really have a preference of who won the bid because I don’t know what their bid involved, I just wanted a clear out of the well publicised in-house fighting that wasn’t helping our club.

So what’s the rest of your motive for joining then?



Ok so let’s look at this

MC gets preferred bidder status at the expense of BtB

The club arrange a meet the fans, most happy except for a few with a vested interest

DD commences

Suddenly a series of stories are leaked to the press with prominent supporters of BtB doing everything they can to discredit MC

All the while MC passes all DD checks both legal
And financial

But still the stories which all seem to be
historic still continue to be promoted from within certain circles

If the guy is a serial entrepreneur then he will have failures that’s kind of how it works

MC deserved a fair chance to prove his worth either way and from what I see he hasn’t been given that chance

what if he does have this money, what if he has every ability to deliver the things he’s promised? Fans have demanded change at the club for years and when they finally get a chance a few decide because they’ve spat the dummy to do everything they can to make sure it’s stopped. Could the club be about to walk away from potentially the best thing that could have happened in our modern era?


Fair?


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5 minutes ago, Fourthstand1876 said:

All the while MC passes all DD checks both legal
And financial

Is this true? Where can we find this information?

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If you think it’s all coming from one board member why don’t you name them?

Give it a rest. We might not know who you are, but most have twigged why you are here, so please, just jog along.

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16 minutes ago, Fourthstand1876 said:

 


Ok so let’s look at this

MC gets preferred bidder status at the expense of BtB

The club arrange a meet the fans, most happy except for a few with a vested interest

DD commences

Suddenly a series of stories are leaked to the press with prominent supporters of BtB doing everything they can to discredit MC

All the while MC passes all DD checks both legal
And financial

But still the stories which all seem to be
historic still continue to be promoted from within certain circles

If the guy is a serial entrepreneur then he will have failures that’s kind of how it works

MC deserved a fair chance to prove his worth either way and from what I see he hasn’t been given that chance

what if he does have this money, what if he has every ability to deliver the things he’s promised? Fans have demanded change at the club for years and when they finally get a chance a few decide because they’ve spat the dummy to do everything they can to make sure it’s stopped. Could the club be about to walk away from potentially the best thing that could have happened in our modern era?


Fair?

 

 

This is an absolute fucking minter. Go and f**k off will you. 

 

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46 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

That seems to be your go to, once you have got through missing the point completely and the various other tangents you like to go off on. Anyway, my question was directed at BPM. You havent addressed or even understood it , so maybe best just leave it there. You dont seem to be grasping anything I am saying to you. 

You also dont seem to understand what sitting on the fence means, and not for the first time either. 

Na, I said back to sitting on the fence, the last reply was very much back on the fence, cmon deleting your own quotes cause it didn't suit your points made

I'm grateful I know no one who backs the current MSG, but I'll donate if they have charities sponsoring them....surely will have

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I don’t have any agenda, but its time some truths were told.

 

Since MC was announced as preferred bidder, we as fans have been drip fed story after story, nearly all of which can be traced back to BtB one way or another.

 

So let’s talk agendas...

 

Well how about we start with yours. “Nearly all of which can be traced back to BtB”. Christ, from innocent newbie, you have now become a forensic scientist.

Don’t you get it? You rumbled yourself several posts ago. Your position is non recoverable. You are here to try to divide opinion by working on the “no smoke without fire” principle.

Time to run back to whoever is loading the bullets for you and ask for a new strategy.

 

Set aside your forensics that have allowed you to trace nearly everything back to BtB. Tell us about the stuff your investigations failed to tie back to BtB. That would be interesting.

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2 minutes ago, MrDust said:

Na, I said back to sitting on the fence, the last reply was very much back on the fence, cmon deleting your own quotes cause it didn't suit your points made

I'm grateful I know no one who backs the current MSG, but I'll donate if they have charities sponsoring them....surely will have

Deleting quotes? 

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1 hour ago, Hank von Hell said:

But you (wrongly) answered it as if he already had total control, and none of us sensible 1% want that.   

He can't prove himself until he gets control, and has been in charge long enough for us to judge him on his actions rather than his words. As I subsequently explained in response to another poster.

I'm not sure what's wrong with that. :wacko:

 

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Ok so let’s look at this

MC gets preferred bidder status at the expense of BtB

The club arrange a meet the fans, most happy except for a few with a vested interest

DD commences

Suddenly a series of stories are leaked to the press with prominent supporters of BtB doing everything they can to discredit MC

All the while MC passes all DD checks both legal
And financial

But still the stories which all seem to be
historic still continue to be promoted from within certain circles

If the guy is a serial entrepreneur then he will have failures that’s kind of how it works

MC deserved a fair chance to prove his worth either way and from what I see he hasn’t been given that chance

what if he does have this money, what if he has every ability to deliver the things he’s promised? Fans have demanded change at the club for years and when they finally get a chance a few decide because they’ve spat the dummy to do everything they can to make sure it’s stopped. Could the club be about to walk away from potentially the best thing that could have happened in our modern era?


Fair?


Has he had any successful former businesses to show us that he have a good track record?.

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11 minutes ago, Fourthstand1876 said:

 


Ok so let’s look at this

MC gets preferred bidder status at the expense of BtB

The club arrange a meet the fans, most happy except for a few with a vested interest

DD commences

Suddenly a series of stories are leaked to the press with prominent supporters of BtB doing everything they can to discredit MC

All the while MC passes all DD checks both legal
And financial

But still the stories which all seem to be
historic still continue to be promoted from within certain circles

If the guy is a serial entrepreneur then he will have failures that’s kind of how it works

MC deserved a fair chance to prove his worth either way and from what I see he hasn’t been given that chance

what if he does have this money, what if he has every ability to deliver the things he’s promised? Fans have demanded change at the club for years and when they finally get a chance a few decide because they’ve spat the dummy to do everything they can to make sure it’s stopped. Could the club be about to walk away from potentially the best thing that could have happened in our modern era?


Fair?

 

 

Part of the problem is that any prior info regarding this guy is negative. 

Personally I'd love for this guy to be the real deal but from the info available it doesn't look that way.  From being declared bankrupt to then being able to spend "£20m of his own money", in the space of 9 years just doesn't add up.

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Has he had any successful former businesses to show us that he have a good track record?.


If DD has been passed then he will have had to have shown his finances and available cash for the purchase.
Does he need to have a successful business to have the cash?

If I won euro millions on Friday would you turn me away? I’ve never run a business in my life!

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26 minutes ago, Fourthstand1876 said:

Might hang about for a wee while longer if that’s ok with you?

Please do, its fun.

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Fourth stand, why does this guy deserve a chance with OUR club? What in the past makes you think he will be successful (for the first time in his entrepreneurial career from what I can see) at our club? He is dangerous. If he gets it wrong - as his track record suggests is his thing - the results could be catastrophic. Why on earth does he deserve any sort of “chance” with us?

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8 minutes ago, Fourthstand1876 said:

 


If DD has been passed then he will have had to have shown his finances and available cash for the purchase.

 

The problem being for most clued up Falkirk fans is that it looks like his "finances and available cash" are Craig Whiteesque and the guy shouldn't be anywhere near running a football club.

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