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I have and whilst it may take removing Hartley to do so, there's zero chance you'll go down.
Apologies for the cliched and slightly embarrassing statement, but it applies here, Falkirk are too big to go down. You'll revamp the squad if required come January and make 8th in the absolute worst case scenario. As it is, I reckon you'll keep Hartley, end up finishing 5th or 6th and all be feeling demoralised going into next season.


I’d bite your arm off for 8th tbh
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1 hour ago, Back Post Misses said:

Do you have to be a short arse to get into Hartley’s coaching team? Not one of the three main men are over 5’6”. Hartley is actually the tallest.

 

Even the new kitman is on the short side

Does anyone know what happened with the old kitman?

Gordon Young might.

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1 hour ago, Duncan Freemason said:

Don’t get your hopes up. He will fall out with you just before your debut, and you won’t kick a ball til he’s gone. New guy will tell you find yourself another club.

Is there some mileage in a deluge of emails?

what email address did you use?

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Post game, there is usually a few who come out and say the opposition weren’t up to much yet still beat us. This of course is an attempt to convey their disgust at just how bad we must be for a team of the calibration of x,y, or z to hand us a beating.

That has happened this week. Why? Not because QotS are an exceptional Championship side. I think it’s simply because the inept, disjointed and shambolic performance that our Falkirk side gave us on Saturday was so bad, so far off the level required, just so self evident that no further tub thumping about the opposition not even being great was required. The eleven guys in navy blue didn’t need any help in making it clear to one and all that they are not currently a Championship football team.

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6 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

I have and whilst it may take removing Hartley to do so, there's zero chance you'll go down.

Apologies for the cliched and slightly embarrassing statement, but it applies here, Falkirk are too big to go down. You'll revamp the squad if required come January and make 8th in the absolute worst case scenario. As it is, I reckon you'll keep Hartley, end up finishing 5th or 6th and all be feeling demoralised going into next season.

No my friend. You are basing this on the often seen “lose three games in a row then slowly recover” scenario. Unless you were there on Saturday, you have no idea how utterly appalling our side is. Look at the stats...at home.....against a side that are unlikely to feature in the play offs. They had 27 shots on our goal, 11 of them were goals or good saves by our keeper. In response, we had 3 shots......none on target yet again.

What Hartley is fielding, what our BoD has sanctioned is truly horrific. One or two new players won’t rescue this shower. 16 players brought in. Being generous, 4 are good enough for Championship today. 4 might be good enough in a year or two’s time. The other 8 are simply out of their depth, and shouldn’t be at the club. Simple as that.

Add on the ones we have kept. Jesus wept, it’s bad. Once again, we have given the keys to the sweetie shop to people who clearly didn’t know what they were doing.

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No my friend. You are basing this on the often seen “lose three games in a row then slowly recover” scenario. Unless you were there on Saturday, you have no idea how utterly appalling our side is. Look at the stats...at home.....against a side that are unlikely to feature in the play offs. They had 27 shots on our goal, 11 of them were goals or good saves by our keeper. In response, we had 3 shots......none on target yet again.
What Hartley is fielding, what our BoD has sanctioned is truly horrific. One or two new players won’t rescue this shower. 16 players brought in. Being generous, 4 are good enough for Championship today. 4 might be good enough in a year or two’s time. The other 8 are simply out of their depth, and shouldn’t be at the club. Simple as that.
Add on the ones we have kept. Jesus wept, it’s bad. Once again, we have given the keys to the sweetie shop to people who clearly didn’t know what they were doing.

As it stands I can’t pick out 2 teams who we could finish above.

We could be the Brechin of this years championship ffs.
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There's just no redeeming features about the side. Normally in a poor team you can pick out x, y and z of what needs to change but it's absolutely uniformly terrible.

No idea what a new manager could do either as we are stuck with this lot.

Anyone have any idea who's on 1 or 2 year deals?

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We'll, the scouts not clueless given he previously headed Ross counties scouting in England. So that leaves Hartley clearing out too many players and spreading his budget too thing. Should have been 8 or 9 new players tops, with what we already had rolled in. 
 
Isn't hindsight wonderful. 

Think the problem is despite being offered contracts good players chose to go somewhere Hartley isn’t
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1 hour ago, Duncan Freemason said:

For some of the English lads, it might well end up with “contract terminated by mutual agreement”. For a few, being “in another country” while everything around them goes to hell in a hand basket might be too much to take.

For our sakes and theirs, that might be the best possible outcome.

Problem is if you look at all those that have left us by mutual consent virtually every one is followed by them signing for another team 2mins later. Its onviously find another team. You jave great heres a few quid to help . Who is going to take the likes of petra, toe or dallison off us. At least craigen and austin had past records to get teams interested.

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5 hours ago, DeeBairn said:

We'll, the scouts not clueless given he previously headed Ross counties scouting in England. So that leaves Hartley clearing out too many players and spreading his budget too thing. Should have been 8 or 9 new players tops, with what we already had rolled in. 

 

Isn't hindsight wonderful. 

If he was scout for RC in the top flight, then clearly he made a total ar5e of that too, as they are now in the Championship just like us. I am sure Sugardaddy Roy will have given him enough money to play with. Mitchell sounds like a guy who can talk a good job but ultimately deliver zilch.

Also note he is no longer connected with them. Anyone bother to ask why?

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2 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said:

Problem is if you look at all those that have left us by mutual consent virtually every one is followed by them signing for another team 2mins later. Its onviously find another team. You jave great heres a few quid to help . Who is going to take the likes of petra, toe or dallison off us. At least craigen and austin had past records to get teams interested.

For some of these boys, I might simply be a case of getting back home being more important than anything else.

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2 hours ago, ilostmyself said:

Anyone have any idea who's on 1 or 2 year deals?

According to the official website:

 

Fasan, Brough, Mackin, Lewis, Owen-Evans,  Greenwood, Sammut (loan) , Haber (loan) - One year deals. Froxylias too is a one year deal but club has option to extend for another year.

Turner (who?) and Irving (loans) are here till January.  Mark Russell is also only here till January.

 

Website states McGhee, O'Hara, Kidd, Robson and Muirhead all signed one year extensions at the start of the season, whilst Mutch signed on until 2021.

 

Harrison, Paton, Petravicius (:blink:), Dallison - Two year deals

From the rest, David Mitchell, Alex Harris and Joe McKee all signed two-year contracts last summer so theirs will expire at the end of this season too.

Interesting too to note that Cieran Dunne (who was included on the first-team page last season) has been taken off, even though he's still at the club. No idea when his contract runs until right enough.

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Isn’t it amazing that we have had this massive clear out, yet two of what was considered the “deadwood” players are still with us, and we have actually gone out and signed something like another four or five deadwood players.

It just defies logic.

 

Not only that, but if Hartley is allowed more signings, they will be players who are brought in not to complete the squad, but to immediately replace the players Hartley signed two or three months ago! How mental is that?

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2 year deal for Paul Paton .

Really tried to be positive about his signing and his performances so far but that was possibly the most embarrassing individual performance I’ve seen from a Falkirk player. Picked up a stupid booking from a ridiculous tackle in the first half and then spent the entirety of the second half actively hiding from the ball. Whenever one of our defenders had the ball he’s go and stand beside a Queens player so he couldn’t get the ball.

Shitebag of the highest order.

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