Guest Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I think those in charge are genuinely trying their level best but otherwise post of the week here. I know folk need things to talk about on a forum but sometimes football problems are on the park.I genuinely think those in charge are trying their best only they are pretty much incompetent and the charge sheet of the last 18 months proves that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 How come there have been very few at the previous fan ownership meetings then? The interest isn't there. Because it was sponsored by the club and no one is going to sign up for anything that gives this mob a penny for one. Secondly the consortium IMO stirred the pot and have helped bring things to a head. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Back Post Misses said: I genuinely think those in charge are trying their best only they are pretty much incompetent and the charge sheet of the last 18 months proves that. Should surely be quite simple to sort this. Keep the bod totally away from anything to do with football. Leave them organising the finances of the club and providing the budget and then get a group of folk together that have a bit of knowledge about fitba to manage the other side of things like appointing managers, academy stuff, recruitment etcJob done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkzombie Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) Even if some are not sold on the Fans ownership model in a way of getting rid of current BOD you should still be getting behind it as it without a doubt be making more money available for 1st team affairs, the sharesave scheme will provide constant revenue that we are not getting ATM, Edited December 21, 2018 by falkirkzombie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branch Ton Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 43 minutes ago, HopeStreetPieStall said: Guess we should be happy branch Ton is still sleeping off whatever sedatives he's been given. You should indeed. Curiously, given the Tribunal effectively decided McKinnon breached his Morton contract, and the timeline of his move.to the Dark Side would imply he did that knowingly, you lot seem rather keen to put all the blame on your chairperson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Branch Ton said: You should indeed. Curiously, given the Tribunal effectively decided McKinnon breached his Morton contract, and the timeline of his move.to the Dark Side would imply he did that knowingly, you lot seem rather keen to put all the blame on your chairperson. Surely its him Morton should be after and no us then? I think the main issue for us is that every manager under the sun these days that moves clubs is tapped up . We just seem to have been the only ones bad enough at doing it to get caught. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Branch Ton said: You should indeed. Curiously, given the Tribunal effectively decided McKinnon breached his Morton contract, and the timeline of his move.to the Dark Side would imply he did that knowingly, you lot seem rather keen to put all the blame on your chairperson. It didn't decide anything about McKinnon. The panel found the club gulity, not the manager. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsfordbairn Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, EdiBairn said: How come there have been very few at the previous fan ownership meetings then? The interest isn't there. Probably because it was never seen as a realistic option. A meeting about something that might happen, if the MSG agree, the board back it and there's a pig flying over the North stand is hardly an attractive way to spend an evening. This looks to be a little more concrete. I suspect it may not get the thousands of ordinary subscribers that the club would like but I wouldn't bet against it being a success. Particularly as there appear to be a number of people with cash who want a say in how the club is run, at least if the various consortiums are an indication. This is also the perfect time to launch such a scheme. Given our ongoing position at the bottom of the league, coupled with the popular opinion that the owners don't care about the wishes of the support, and you have a fanbase who're currently more anti-BOD than they've been in years. If the fans want change, this is the way to make it happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: I genuinely think those in charge are trying their best only they are pretty much incompetent and the charge sheet of the last 18 months proves that. The charge sheet i've seen on this forum includes "mckinnon gate" to make up the numbers. There is very little a fans' party would have done differently. Sorry but that's the truth. Most directors of the club would love a socio-esque membership but we're not Barcelona; we're a middling going concern. Everyone has their heart in the right place here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, EdiBairn said: Of course we have many able supporters who'd be able to contribute to any fan ownership scheme. However, like any club we also have our fair share of zoomer a who should be allowed absolutely nowhere near the running of a multi million pound business. Fortunately they won't be as this scheme will go nowhere. Absolutely no chance of more than 100 or so supporters paying £10 a month. Bairnforlife has more than this already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkzombie Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 apparently St Mirren have around 1100 fans paying a monthly direct debit into the club, no reason whatsoever we couldn't match that with the same kind of numbers, what a boost that would be to the first team budget 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Branch Ton said: You should indeed. Curiously, given the Tribunal effectively decided McKinnon breached his Morton contract, and the timeline of his move.to the Dark Side would imply he did that knowingly, you lot seem rather keen to put all the blame on your chairperson. Sod it it’s all Morton’s fault for driving Ray away if he was happy he wouldn’t have left. There’s your blame and fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, falkirkzombie said: apparently St Mirren have around 1100 fans paying a monthly direct debit into the club, no reason whatsoever we couldn't match that with the same kind of numbers, what a boost that would be to the first team budget And we could win the premiership next season -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkzombie Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just now, EdiBairn said: And we could win the premiership next season tell me why we couldn't,? Other clubs similar size to us are managing it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkzombie Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, EdiBairn said: And we could win the premiership next season no everyone is as much of a tightarse as you Edited December 21, 2018 by falkirkzombie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, falkirkzombie said: tell me why we couldn't,? Other clubs similar size to us are managing it The interest simply isn't there. We've been running a scheme to get money straight into the first team budget for 2 seasons now. It's been extensively promoted but only has 100 members. We'll get 200 absolute maximum. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkzombie Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, EdiBairn said: The interest simply isn't there. We've been running a scheme to get money straight into the first team budget for 2 seasons now. It's been extensively promoted but only has 100 members. We'll get 200 absolute maximum. so its went from 100 to 200 in a couple of hours? people are more likely to invest their 10ner a month if they are getting something back, ie shares and a say on how the club is run Edited December 21, 2018 by falkirkzombie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, EdiBairn said: The interest simply isn't there. We've been running a scheme to get money straight into the first team budget for 2 seasons now. It's been extensively promoted but only has 100 members. We'll get 200 absolute maximum. The problem with bairn for life was it was never intended at the start to get shares back for the investment in the team. That put a lot of people off . That has now changed but to me we should be aiming for one scheme and one scheme only from now on so that all our efforts are concentrated on the one area. A lot also depends on who is running these schemes. Unfortunately in the past the characters running the likes of bairnstrust put some people off and it was seen too often as a way to get yourself into the boardroom on a Saturday to tuck into free pies and sausage rolls . Its crucial that this doesnt 't slip back into that kind of image if it is to prove successful. Other clubs have managed to do this pretty well though so no reason why we shouldnt be able to . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branch Ton Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 31 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said: It didn't decide anything about McKinnon. The panel found the club gulity, not the manager. Falkirk wouldn’t have been found guilty under the second rule If McKinnon hadn’t actually breached a written contract, McKinnon must have known perfectly well when he did business for Falkirk on transfer deadline day that his resignation had not been accepted and/or he had not worked his period of notice. Either he needed to have bought out his contract or Falkirk agreed to pay compo. A manager doing business for two clubs in the same division on transfer deadline day is hardly a minor offence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: The problem with bairn for life was it was never intended at the start to get shares back for the investment in the team. That put a lot of people off . That has now changed but to me we should be aiming for one scheme and one scheme only from now on so that all our efforts are concentrated on the one area. A lot also depends on who is running these schemes. Unfortunately in the past the characters running the likes of bairnstrust put some people off and it was seen too often as a way to get yourself into the boardroom on a Saturday to tuck into free pies and sausage rolls . Its crucial that this doesnt 't slip back into that kind of image if it is to prove successful. Other clubs have managed to do this pretty well though so no reason why we shouldnt be able to . The same type of characters running the likes of bairnstrust will be our new directors if this fan ownership scheme goes ahead. Bonkers. Edited December 21, 2018 by EdiBairn -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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