FFC 1876 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, 18BAIRN76 said: Wee Arfield McGovern double signing? McGloves is soon to be 39 I believe he'll be hanging them up unfortunately. Arfield on the other hand, in you come. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I wasn’t available this week but as you can see, John organised an able substitute to help preview the big week ahead… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said: I wasn’t available this week but as you can see, John organised an able substitute to help preview the big week ahead… Interesting to hear Miller and McCracken tried to re-sign O’Hara. Yet another example of their terrible recruitment. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said: Interesting to hear Miller and McCracken tried to re-sign O’Hara. Yet another example of their terrible recruitment. TBF O'Hara was, and is, a very good striker for this level, if you use him right. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, PedroMoutinho said: Interesting to hear Miller and McCracken tried to re-sign O’Hara. Yet another example of their terrible recruitment. Was scoring goals for an unfancied team in the league above at the time so not that a bizzare target. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 17:13, Bairn in Exile said: It would be ludicrous to sack a manager and replace him with only 4 games to go, wouldn't it? Needs must. https://news.sky.com/story/leeds-sack-manager-javi-gracia-and-replace-him-with-big-sam-allardyce-12871374 On 03/05/2023 at 17:15, SouthStander1876 said: This is just trying to cause an argument and you know it, 2 completely different situations. On 03/05/2023 at 19:37, FK1Bairn said: Different situations. Remember the uproar when Hearts sacked Burley while they were top of the SPL? https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/gary-bowyer-set-dundee-exit-29928326 So, Hearts sack Burley when they are top of the league. Queen's Park emptied McKinnon after winning them promotion. Dundee unimpressed with Bowyer winning them promotion and happy to let him go. But if we don't get promoted via the play-offs we should still keep McGlynn on? It appears that the big mistake that McKinnon and Bowyer made was actually winning their leagues, if they had just failed they might still have a job. And before the reddies start flying in, I am desperate for McGlynn to get the job done and get us promoted, I want him to be a success and take charge of us in the Championship. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/gary-bowyer-set-dundee-exit-29928326 So, Hearts sack Burley when they are top of the league. Queen's Park emptied McKinnon after winning them promotion. Dundee unimpressed with Bowyer winning them promotion and happy to let him go. But if we don't get promoted via the play-offs we should still keep McGlynn on? It appears that the big mistake that McKinnon and Bowyer made was actually winning their leagues, if they had just failed they might still have a job. And before the reddies start flying in, I am desperate for McGlynn to get the job done and get us promoted, I want him to be a success and take charge of us in the Championship. You know fine well the debate was over sacking McGlynns before the playoffs that he got us to, so no idea why you would compare Bowyer like its some sort of win. Totally different scenarios. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: You know fine well the debate was over sacking McGlynns before the playoffs that he got us to, so no idea why you would compare Bowyer like its some sort of win. Totally different scenarios. Fair dos, good point. Should we keep him on if we don't win the play-offs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Fair dos, good point. Should we keep him on if we don't win the play-offs? One has a contract while Bowyer has a break in his. The situations are completely different unless you're happy to want to pay-off another management team. Edited May 9, 2023 by Blame Me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Fair dos, good point. Should we keep him on if we don't win the play-offs? I'm inclined to say yes, but the manner in which we lost would matter. He was given 2 years, after this summer, its unequivocally his squad. Were we to get rid, you would have to roll the dice on someone who you are sure can go 1 position better, with the caveat that it wouldn't be there squad and you just dont know if you end up with yet another massive shuffle/rebuild. I'm not saying you should be scared to sack a failing manager, but I don't see McGlynn as a failing manager as yet, and would be more inclined to back him sufficiently to get over the line next season than roll the costly dice again now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Blame Me said: One has a contract while Bowyer has a break in his. The situations are completely different unless you're happy to want to pay-off another management team. Did we err in giving him a 2 year deal then? Should we have given McGlynn a rolling contract? Or has the board always believed that McGlynn would take 2 seasons to get us promoted and going up this season would be a bonus? Edited May 9, 2023 by Bairn in Exile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Did we err in giving him a 2 year deal then? Should we have given McGlynn a rolling contract? Or has the board always believed that McGlynn would take 2 seasons to get us promoted and going up this season would be a bonus? You're trying to rewrite history now to suit a narrative. He was given the deal he was given to get us up - we all hope it's done in his 1st year but it might be the 2nd... or neither. At that stage you can make a judgement as to whether the deal was correct. Edited May 9, 2023 by Blame Me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 The club gave M&S a two year deal, remembering back to the podcast with the two directors, my interpretation was that it was two years to get us back to the championship if needed, although there were aspirations of going up this year through the playoffs, maybe wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Springfield said: The club gave M&S a two year deal, remembering back to the podcast with the two directors, my interpretation was that it was two years to get us back to the championship if needed, although there were aspirations of going up this year through the playoffs, maybe wrong. Given they had finished 5th & 6th, in the preceding 2 seasons, I suppose that’s understandable. Playoffs being the target, any advance on that is a bonus. If McGlynn’s side make it up, at their first attempt, would be great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FK1Bairn Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Bairn in Exile said: Did we err in giving him a 2 year deal then? Should we have given McGlynn a rolling contract? Or has the board always believed that McGlynn would take 2 seasons to get us promoted and going up this season would be a bonus? Time and hindsight is wonderful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 15 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: TBF O'Hara was, and is, a very good striker for this level, if you use him right. Makes a good cup of tea you mean. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kircer bairn Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Got our tickets for tonight COYB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 I doubt any decent managers are going to want to take over a club with a squad of players on contracts who noone rates who have just had two of the worst seasons in many people's living memories on a one year deal with the sole route to a second year being getting promoted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latapythelegend Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 16 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: TBF O'Hara was, and is, a very good striker for this level, if you use him right. Oooft 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStander1876 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Potentially hinting that he'll be back in time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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