NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 30 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: There is no reason for the stand roofs to be the height they are. They dissipate the crowd noise instead of amplifying it. It's not rose-tinted glasses referring to Brockville the stand and the covered terracing were an echo chamber. Hopefully when the roofs have to be replaced or refurbished (which they will) redesigning and rectifying the shortcomings on what is a badly conceived, designed and built stadium can to some degree be rectified. As for the 4th stand? Build up a rubble foundation, concrete slabbing put seats 15 - 20 rows deep and a roof over it job done and a fraction of the price of the 3-atmosphere vacuum chambers we have at present. I'd much rather have roofs like TFS than the legoland look of St Mirren, Airdrie etc The north and south stands have 17 rows so what you're suggesting for the east would be the same height. I'm not a QS but would be amazed if we had any change from a £5m construction cost, which is money we simply don't have right now. As good as it would be to properly finish the stadium with a 3k east stand it makes 0 sense to build it just now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStander1876 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Just a small stand like the North Stand at EEP would suffice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 59 minutes ago, SouthStander1876 said: Just a small stand like the North Stand at EEP would suffice Without the stench 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 People didn't read what I said. The stand would be built with community grants for community use with seats facing the community pitches. We'll just get a standing area on the reverse side of this stand and use of the rooms inside it. Very little if any Falkirk FC money would go into it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: People didn't read what I said. The stand would be built with community grants for community use with seats facing the community pitches. We'll just get a standing area on the reverse side of this stand and use of the rooms inside it. Very little if any Falkirk FC money would go into it. This would be perfect IMO, the stadium and fans would benefit from having some safe standing rail seats or even better an old school terracing which I’m told is now perfectly legal provided the numbers are restricted. If the structure can be built with community grants from the foundation then so long as the club get use of it on a no cost basis then it’s a win win. Edited May 3, 2023 by LatapyBairn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, HopeStreetWalker said: There is no reason for the stand roofs to be the height they are. They dissipate the crowd noise instead of amplifying it. It's not rose-tinted glasses referring to Brockville the stand and the covered terracing were an echo chamber. Hopefully when the roofs have to be replaced or refurbished (which they will) redesigning and rectifying the shortcomings on what is a badly conceived, designed and built stadium can to some degree be rectified. As for the 4th stand? Build up a rubble foundation, concrete slabbing put seats 15 - 20 rows deep and a roof over it job done and a fraction of the price of the 3-atmosphere vacuum chambers we have at present. Sorry, but I don’t think you fully grasp the engineering here. We have three cantilever roofs. Their positioning is the outcome of a whole bunch of calculations that really can’t be messed around with. Any future works on the roof would be the replacement of the sheeting, but certainly not the engineering of the load bearing structures. As I said previously, to re-engineer the cantilever would cost more than the stand cost to build. It would be a huge engineering undertaking that for our three stands would cost millions. To lower the profile of the roofs, it would require massive re-working of the steel fabrication within the structure of the stands. You would effectively have to dismantle the stands, and start from scratch. It would cost many millions to achieve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latapythelegend Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, LatapyBairn. said: This would be perfect IMO, the stadium and fans would benefit from having some safe standing rail seats or even better an old school terracing which I’m told is now perfectly legal provided the numbers are restricted. If the structure can be built with community grants from the foundation then so long as the club get use of it on a no cost basis then it’s a win win. I read it as possibly just flat standing but if the infrastructure is there then a basic terraced area would be ideal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Ayr’s concept design for covering their terracing looks rather good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said: Sorry, but I don’t think you fully grasp the engineering here. We have three cantilever roofs. Their positioning is the outcome of a whole bunch of calculations that really can’t be messed around with. Any future works on the roof would be the replacement of the sheeting, but certainly not the engineering of the load bearing structures. As I said previously, to re-engineer the cantilever would cost more than the stand cost to build. It would be a huge engineering undertaking that for our three stands would cost millions. To lower the profile of the roofs, it would require massive re-working of the steel fabrication within the structure of the stands. You would effectively have to dismantle the stands, and start from scratch. It would cost many millions to achieve. Pish! I remember reading about a man that removed all of the rafters in his loft to give him more room. Could we not just do something similar? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 minute ago, ShaggerG said: Pish! I remember reading about a man that removed all of the rafters in his loft to give him more room. Could we not just do something similar? Feck. You are not supposed to know about that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: Pish! I remember reading about a man that removed all of the rafters in his loft to give him more room. Could we not just do something similar? Everyone knows the cantilever companies have it all sewn up. Sell u 5 times more than you need. Reckon we're good to cut out most them without even asking a structural engineer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 If it's terracing, something akin to the EV charger canopies would suffice as a structure if you can imagine 4-5 rows of bleacher type seating on the side facing the community pitches. Win-win. Boost the stadiums green credentials further, add additional capacity and provide a covered viewing area for both pitches on the Grangemouth side. Might also please @HopeStreetWalker as it'd keep the atmosphere in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 28 minutes ago, Blame Me said: If it's terracing, something akin to the EV charger canopies would suffice as a structure if you can imagine 4-5 rows of bleacher type seating on the side facing the community pitches. Win-win. Boost the stadiums green credentials further, add additional capacity and provide a covered viewing area for both pitches on the Grangemouth side. Might also please @HopeStreetWalker as it'd keep the atmosphere in Would need to have a TV gantry built in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Reggie Perrin said: Would need to have a TV gantry built in. And a cage 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I see tickets are on sale now online for the Home play off match on Sat 13th 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said: I see tickets are on sale now online for the Home play off match on Sat 13th Is it 3pm? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Is it 3pm? No it’s quarter to seven. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I wonder what “kind” of stand the KM would become. Imo it’s a guarantee all the “young” team and loads of KM regulars would move to the new one. Maybe we could all go up the north end of the East Stand 1st half then KM stand 2nd half 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: Would need to have a TV gantry built in. ... you could probably charge your phone as well! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18BAIRN76 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said: I see tickets are on sale now online for the Home play off match on Sat 13th Tickets available to buy for season ticket holders but nothing on the club channels yet which is a bit odd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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