FK1Bairn Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: The refs look after themselves so unless it's blatantly obvious or you're the old firm you just waste money appealing. If his arm is tucked in it should be no penalty simple as that. That's the thing, it's not blatantly obvious that it's the wrong decision. There are posters on here who were at the game who thought it was a penalty, there are others not at the game like you and I who also thought it was a penalty. If it's a penalty its a red card. It's one of those we'd be claiming down the other end. There's also very little protest other than Morrison Edited August 31, 2022 by FK1Bairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinatoon Bairn Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: That's just after contact though when the force has twisted his body round. The balls left his body at that point. When the ball actually hits him he's square on.He's moved his body towards the ball yes and the balls possibly come off his forearm which is tight into his chest but no penalty for me.. His arms aren't outstretched or outside his natural silhouette. If it misses his arm it's hitting his body. Mental gymnastics. Pen, red. End of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: That's just after contact though when the force has twisted his body round. The balls left his body at that point. When the ball actually hits him he's square on.He's moved his body towards the ball yes and the balls possibly come off his forearm which is tight into his chest but no penalty for me.. His arms aren't outstretched or outside his natural silhouette. If it misses his arm it's hitting his body. Balls travelled nearly 12 yards by time it hits Oliver. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chinatoon Bairn said: Mental gymnastics. Pen, red. End of. The rules state you need to make your body bigger . Hitting you on the arm wrapped in front of your chest isn't doing that in any manner. If his arms are out from his body then yes stonewall but they aren't. So according to the rules it's no a pen. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, FK1Bairn said: That's the thing, it's not blatantly obvious that it's the wrong decision. There are posters on here who were at the game who thought it was a penalty, there are others not at the game like you and I who also thought it was a penalty. If it's a penalty its a red card. It's one of those we'd be claiming down the other end. There's also very little protest other than Morrison We'd be claiming if it hit his head mind you but then looking back after the match I'd be saying mmm got a big lucky with that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, gav-ffc said: Balls travelled nearly 12 yards by time it hits Oliver. Distance only matters if your arms are outside your body anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Fuxake shodders. Pen and red and we move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Thought it wasn’t a pen last night but looking at the highlights the ref called it right. He’s unlucky as I think his arms went up to protect him but he does use them to deflect the ball away. FullSizeRender.MOV Edited August 31, 2022 by Guest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairney Rubble Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: The rules state you need to make your body bigger . Hitting you on the arm wrapped in front of your chest isn't doing that in any manner. If his arms are out from his body then yes stonewall but they aren't. So according to the rules it's no a pen. Wrong. Arms not in a natural position so it is a pen. One of the few things the ref got right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bairney Rubble said: Wrong. Arms not in a natural position so it is a pen. One of the few things the ref got right. The unnatural position rubbish ain't part of the rules any more. They simply state: touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised; 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shodwall cat Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Some people think it's a pen some don't simple as that. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamAnt Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: The unnatural position rubbish ain't part of the rules any more. They simply state: touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. Eh that’s a bit of contradiction 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chinatoon Bairn said: VIiS128nbwmZtZvr.mp4 525.85 kB · 1 download Josh Todd's pre-match talk leaked 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick_- Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: Some people think it's a pen some don't simple as that. And the truth is of course that it is a penalty and a red card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Maverick_- said: And the truth is of course that it is a penalty and a red card. Yes the ref gave it but we all know how abysmal the standard of refereeing is these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, AdamAnt said: Eh that’s a bit of contradiction No it says unnaturally bigger. Doesn't mention unnatural position. You could have your hands in front of your face . That doesn't make it any bigger but is it a natural position? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Anyway is Oliver now suspended for Saturday or is it just violent conduct that is an automatic one game ban whatever the competition your playing in next? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinatoon Bairn Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: Anyway is Oliver now suspended for Saturday or is it just violent conduct that is an automatic one game ban whatever the competition your playing in next? No. League Cup down as a separate competition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Holy f**k 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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