Bairnardo Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Why is our club so quick to throw our fans under the bus - We are a broad church from daft boys to auld pensioners - all of whom will say or shout something that may offend. The club appear to be looking to damage fans lives with banning orders and hate crime convictions. For what? You think sponsors are queuing up knowing we have a woke board or do you think this statement is reinforcing the narrative we a racist, sexist, homophobic fanbase. I know if you support Falkirk you're a good egg, you could easily follow the scumbag Old firm. If you don't want the fanbase to be thought of as homophobic (which broadly speaking we are not) then don't sing or endorse the signing of homophobic songs? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knee jerk reaction Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 The board were right to condemn the singing but I don't think we have an ongoing problem, it's not going to be repeated over the season. I could be wrong but to me it looks like daft laddies making a misjudgment singing an old song rather than a genuine homophobic environment at the stadium, to be honest there's rarely been a song there in 5 or 6 years. If we start singing oh the Montrose/Peterhead/Airdrie etc then it's a different story and more severe action would be needed by the board. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC1982 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 I’m glad the club have taken a stand on this and the comments on the post by the directors sum up exactly why it needs to be tackled head on between the “boys will be boys” brigade to the “everyone is a snowflake” crew we need to start to accept that there is a small section of our support who continually bring this on the club and we’ll probably rightfully be national news again for the wrong reasons. its about time that we called it out for what it is - its homophobia and there is no place for it at our club and I for one am glad that the board are showing they won’t stand for it. its not throwing our fans under a bus if it happened and there are plenty of people in the stadium who heard it. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said: Why is our club so quick to throw our fans under the bus - We are a broad church from daft boys to auld pensioners - all of whom will say or shout something that may offend. The club appear to be looking to damage fans lives with banning orders and hate crime convictions. For what? You think sponsors are queuing up knowing we have a woke board or do you think this statement is reinforcing the narrative we a racist, sexist, homophobic fanbase. I know if you support Falkirk you're a good egg, you could easily follow the scumbag Old firm. As I said to you before, the world has changed. What was deemed acceptable previously (in fact there wasn’t even a thought about the need for a debate) is not acceptable now. That’s just a fact. I’m a man of a certain vintage and when I was a wee boy the corner shop was called the pakis (even when it was owned by a white person ) and I would sometimes get a chinky at the weekend. It never entered my head that these terms may have been offensive to people as they weren’t intended to be, however, if I’d known that they were, I most certainly wouldn’t have used them. Same applied to calling folk poofters or gayboy or whatever. It’s fairly clear now that certain language is offensive to certain groups and therefore shouldn’t be used and most definitely not in a public situation. I’m sure you’re not a bad person, I think you maybe just need to get up to date. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Some folk also need to have a think about their "support" for Falkirk and how important it is to you... And whether its as important as their perceived right to continue to use slurs that they have been told are offensive. If you are so determined to continue being a bigot that you will do so despite the clubs warnings and the harm you are doing, you cease to be a Falkirk supporter, and are instead just one of societies wankers who should be banned from the club to prevent further harm. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 12 hours ago, knee jerk reaction said: It's political correctness gone mad, I mean you can't even throw bananas on the park and do monkey actions and impressions these days like you used to or shout names at the disabled... If you can't see the difference between homophobia or racism compared with to take one of your examples baldness then there's no hope for you Bit of mutual respect all round and everybody will rub along fine. You are supporting your club and you either enhance or detract its reputation with your behavior. Keep opinions on religion, politics and sexual orientation to yourself. Let's leave these to clubs that have let elements of their support hijack their club for political and sectarian aims. Plenty other subjects to wind up the opposition both witty and annoying. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said: Why is our club so quick to throw our fans under the bus - We are a broad church from daft boys to auld pensioners - all of whom will say or shout something that may offend. The club appear to be looking to damage fans lives with banning orders and hate crime convictions. For what? You think sponsors are queuing up knowing we have a woke board or do you think this statement is reinforcing the narrative we a racist, sexist, homophobic fanbase. I know if you support Falkirk you're a good egg, you could easily follow the scumbag Old firm. Not taking sides here but I understand that the Board had no option but to put out that fairly mild rebuke. Otherwise there could have been a fine from the football authorities and none of us wants that. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: As I said to you before, the world has changed. What was deemed acceptable previously (in fact there wasn’t even a thought about the need for a debate) is not acceptable now. That’s just a fact. I’m a man of a certain vintage and when I was a wee boy the corner shop was called the pakis (even when it was owned by a white person ) and I would sometimes get a chinky at the weekend. It never entered my head that these terms may have been offensive to people as they weren’t intended to be, however, if I’d known that they were, I most certainly wouldn’t have used them. Same applied to calling folk poofters or gayboy or whatever. It’s fairly clear now that certain language is offensive to certain groups and therefore shouldn’t be used and most definitely not in a public situation. I’m sure you’re not a bad person, I think you maybe just need to get up to date. When did you realise poofter and gay boy might be offensive? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: As I said to you before, the world has changed. What was deemed acceptable previously (in fact there wasn’t even a thought about the need for a debate) is not acceptable now. That’s just a fact. I’m a man of a certain vintage and when I was a wee boy the corner shop was called the pakis (even when it was owned by a white person ) and I would sometimes get a chinky at the weekend. It never entered my head that these terms may have been offensive to people as they weren’t intended to be, however, if I’d known that they were, I most certainly wouldn’t have used them. Same applied to calling folk poofters or gayboy or whatever. It’s fairly clear now that certain language is offensive to certain groups and therefore shouldn’t be used and most definitely not in a public situation. I’m sure you’re not a bad person, I think you maybe just need to get up to date. This. You and I are approximately the same age Shagger and I was lucky that my auld fella was way ahead of his time as far as racism is concerned. He used to say "we all have the same colour of blood under our different coloured skins". He would have went nuts at any of his kids if we had used the terms Paki or Chinky. However, in his ignorance, he would quite happily sit down in front of the box on a Saturday evening and watch the Black and White Minstrels Show. You say that the world has changed. (edit: sorry Shagger, you were quoting somebody else, my apologies). No. The world is continually changing and thank goodness it is. I consider myself to be fairly understanding and progressive but just a few short years ago I would sit in front of the box and piss myself laughing at David Walliams and Matt Lucas doing their "I'm a lady" and blackface sketches. It just never entered my head at the time at how offensive these sketches were. No doubt in the fullness of time we will realise that things that we still find funny now are offensive to some members of society. We must all strive to continually change and improve ourselves as human beings. I'll close now by asking for some guidance: Can we still call Fifers 6 fingered mutants? Edited July 16, 2022 by Bairn in Exile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Back to football, rumour has it we have a closed door match today versus Aberdeen apparently. No idea of KO time/location as yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebobsboy Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Hopefully a couple of trialist strikers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: I'll close now by asking for some guidance: Can we still call Fifers 6 fingered mutants? Insults are still fair game if they are accurate imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 33 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said: Back to football, rumour has it we have a closed door match today versus Aberdeen apparently. No idea of KO time/location as yet. Thanks for this. I think that it was over on the Clyde thread where one of their posters was questioning their pre-season friendly opponents being lower league teams where Clyde were taking 6 or 7 off them. He posed the question that, on the assumption that they would be near the bottom of the league, perhaps they should have been playing higher league opponents where Clyde could practice “shutting up shop”. By the same token, on the assumption that we will have teams coming to TFS and “shutting up shop”, maybe we should be playing lower league opponents in our pre-season friendlies where we can practice opening up defences? Just sayin’ like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Thanks for this. I think that it was over on the Clyde thread where one of their posters was questioning their pre-season friendly opponents being lower league teams where Clyde were taking 6 or 7 off them. He posed the question that, on the assumption that they would be near the bottom of the league, perhaps they should have been playing higher league opponents where Clyde could practice “shutting up shop”. By the same token, on the assumption that we will have teams coming to TFS and “shutting up shop”, maybe we should be playing lower league opponents in our pre-season friendlies where we can practice opening up defences? Just sayin’ like. I like the idea of playing teams currently better than us tbh, ie Dundee Utd, Ayr Utd, Killie & Aberdeen. Will give us a harder task to break down & if we can, we take that form and knowledge into the league cup/league. Other than the Killie loss, which was a flattering score line in the end, we’ve done well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Got our tickets for the Bonnyrigg game midweek. Hearing that Bonnyrigg will ask Hibs & Bairns fans to stand at a particular area of the ground at the 2 games but no official segregation will be in place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Any striker rumours doing the rounds? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Has anyone who has got a season ticket for the first time in a while received anything through the post yet? I’ve paid mine but heard nothing since. Obviously still plenty of time but just curious! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: Has anyone who has got a season ticket for the first time in a while received anything through the post yet? I’ve paid mine but heard nothing since. Obviously still plenty of time but just curious! Seen or heard nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: Has anyone who has got a season ticket for the first time in a while received anything through the post yet? I’ve paid mine but heard nothing since. Obviously still plenty of time but just curious! Got mine yesterday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: When did you realise poofter and gay boy might be offensive? I'm not entirely sure TBH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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