The Falkirk FC Thread

[Ranaldo Bairn]

6 minutes ago, StuartA said:

It’s a mute point until we get more people stepping forward and putting themselves up for election, then it’ll be up to Falkirk fans the type of folk they want on the board. 

Moot

[GeordieBairn]

Fair play to Brad McKay btw for all he was absolutely dire last season I think he’s been very solid so far in the 3 games i’ve seen him.

This will absolutely come back to bite me shortly.

[Just a bairn]

7 minutes ago, StuartA said:

It’s a mute point until we get more people stepping forward and putting themselves up for election, then it’ll be up to Falkirk fans the type of folk they want on the board. 

I do agree that it is not a massive issue, but I do think there is a very reasonable argument for anyone running for an FSS directorship to disclose any other involvement in fan groups in their election blurb to be honest. 

The issue from the last election was that it was left out, and I don’t think for any particularly good reason (maybe because it was a temporary appointment until the end of the season?) Reading about it on pie and bovril shouldn’t really be necessary but that’s just me. 

[Just a bairn]

6 minutes ago, GeordieBairn said:

Fair play to Brad McKay btw for all he was absolutely dire last season I think he’s been very solid so far in the 3 games i’ve seen him.

This will absolutely come back to bite me shortly.

I think a big part of that is down to us being way more organised and players knowing their roles. Whether he can keep it up?  Who knows. 

[LatapyBairn.]

6 minutes ago, Just a bairn said:

I do agree that it is not a massive issue, but I do think there is a very reasonable argument for anyone running for an FSS directorship to disclose any other involvement in fan groups in their election blurb to be honest. 

The issue from the last election was that it was left out, and I don’t think for any particularly good reason (maybe because it was a temporary appointment until the end of the season?) Reading about it on pie and bovril shouldn’t really be necessary but that’s just me. 

That’s a fair enough point, although I don’t have any particular issue with a potential director being a member of both groups a few obviously do. Perhaps in the upcoming elections candidates should be told to lay all that out in they’re  pre- election spiel to let fans have a fully informed vote. It is however a very minor issue, teething issues like this will be ironed out I’m sure as they new model progresses. 

Edited July 10, 2022 by LatapyBairn.

[ebobsboy]

I'll reserve judgement on McKay till the league season is well and truly underway. You know at some point he'll revert to type, but so far he's probably been the most improved of last season's dross. Don't see him starting when everyone is fit but maybe thats the kick up the backside he was needing in that he's going to have to fight for a place.  

[PedroMoutinho]

Just now, LatapyBairn. said:

That’s a fair enough point, although I don’t have any particular issue with a potential director being a member of both groups a few obviously do. Perhaps in the upcoming elections candidates should lay all that on in there pre- election spiel to let fans have a fully informed vote. It is however a very minor issue, teething issues like this will be ironed out I’m sure as they new model progresses. 

It’s not a very minor issue imo when the new model was sold as 

“balanced ownership, where no single group has an overall majority and decisions must be made by collaboration and consensus.”

No one group is meant to have an overall majority and yet every angle director is a member of one group. Doesn’t add up to me.

[Proudtobeabairn]

48 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Also glad I never heard they boys trained well.

If you class pre season friendlies as basically training games, then he sort of did.  

[Proudtobeabairn]

Looking at our challengers performances yesterday the match stats suggest Airdrie and Dunfermline battered their (albeit weaker) opposition.  QOS have to be disappointed with their result after a lot of positive noise from their fans and doesn't look like Kelty deserved anything more from their game v ICT. 

 

[Bairnardo]

I'm no defender of Brad Mckays time at Falkirk, but I think its pretty quickly going to become abundantly clear just how much difference a competent football manager makes. Not that we need much convincing having watched numerous players be fine pre and post Falkirk over recent years.

But hindsight is going to absolutely show times about a billion how terrible the last few managerial appointments have been. Sheerin and M&M in particular, with Rennie being close behind but had less of a chance than any of the others.

And also the reasons why Gary Holt should never ever work in football again.

Brad Mckay won't be a starter unless someone is out, but I am prepared to bet he does an adequate cover job until Paul Watson comes back and puts him down into 4th choice CB.

The player I am most worried about McGlynn not getting a competent starter out of but still seeing lots of game time is Williamson, given that I don't really want to see Finn Yeats shoved in there instead of midfield where he was presumably signed to play.

[LatapyBairn.]

15 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

It’s not a very minor issue imo when the new model was sold as 

 

“balanced ownership, where no single group has an overall majority and decisions must be made by collaboration and consensus.”

No one group is meant to have an overall majority and yet every angle director is a member of one group. Doesn’t add up to me.

 

No single group does have an overall majority, each set of directors are there to represent the respective fans groups(they are not in opposition to each other!) and are elected by the members of said groups. If fans have an issue with dual membership there are upcoming elections where they can vote for change. Like I’ve said I don’t have a problem with directors being members of both groups but for some reason you seem to so I’d suggest you vote to elect an alternative candidate if one puts themselves forward,  if a majority of fans feel the same way as you they can use there vote for change. 

Edited July 10, 2022 by LatapyBairn.

[Kevin James Left Knee]

16 minutes ago, LatapyBairn. said:

That’s a fair enough point, although I don’t have any particular issue with a potential director being a member of both groups a few obviously do. Perhaps in the upcoming elections candidates should be told to lay all that out in they’re  pre- election spiel to let fans have a fully informed vote. It is however a very minor issue, teething issues like this will be ironed out I’m sure as they new model progresses. 

They did. Did you read their statements?

[FFC 1876]

9 minutes ago, GeordieBairn said:

Fair play to Brad McKay btw for all he was absolutely dire last season I think he’s been very solid so far in the 3 games i’ve seen him.

This will absolutely come back to bite me shortly.

Reminds me of Johnny Flynn, looks semi competent for good chunks of the game then all of a sudden starts counting the clouds whilst his man drifts easily away from him.

[Kevin James Left Knee]

4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I'm no defender of Brad Mckays time at Falkirk, but I think its pretty quickly going to become abundantly clear just how much difference a competent football manager makes. Not that we need much convincing having watched numerous players be fine pre and post Falkirk over recent years.

But hindsight is going to absolutely show times about a billion how terrible the last few managerial appointments have been. Sheerin and M&M in particular, with Rennie being close behind but had less of a chance than any of the others.

And also the reasons why Gary Holt should never ever work in football again.

Brad Mckay won't be a starter unless someone is out, but I am prepared to bet he does an adequate cover job until Paul Watson comes back and puts him down into 4th choice CB.

The player I am most worried about McGlynn not getting a competent starter out of but still seeing lots of game time is Williamson, given that I don't really want to see Finn Yeats shoved in there instead of midfield where he was presumably signed to play.

Paul told me last week he was hoping to be back for October.

[LatapyBairn.]

7 minutes ago, Kevin James Left Knee said:

They did. Did you read their statements?

I did, can’t recall them exactly now but as the dual membership thing was never an issue for me I’d probably never have picked up on it. As long as everything was disclosed before the vote then what is the problem? Don’t get what the fuss is about to be honest. Starting to seem like a solitary poster on here is for some reason trying to create an issue where there isn’t one. 

Edited July 10, 2022 by LatapyBairn.

[Bairney The Dinosaur]

1 hour ago, StuartA said:

Each to their own, but I’m against this false separation. Every board member is also an FSS member and, based on my interactions with them, utterly committed to seeing FSS work.

Patrons are just Falkirk fans willing and able to have given an extra £10k to the club last season, money that ultimately got us to the end of the season. And I’d wager that not one of them will ever see a penny of that back, while watching their investment dilute almost immediately.

There’s an election next week. Any member of FSS as of today can put themselves forward for election. We really welcome candidates standing up now. 

Yeah I don't think it is a massive issue just something that would be eventually preferable to me, I'm not going to go all pedromoutinho on this.

It makes sense that the type of person who has 10k+ in their back pocket has more time available to commit themselves to a directors role, thus more likely to put themselves forward for election.

Like I said, I'll give it another year or so (when I don't have a new born baby and a dissertation to write) and put myself forward and we can see what happens.

[Bigbri Bairn]

When’s the 31st September this year?…

That will be the day we win the Scottish Cup. A day that does not happen often or at all actually!

[Guest Brockvillenomore]

43 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

It’s not a very minor issue imo when the new model was sold as 

 

“balanced ownership, where no single group has an overall majority and decisions must be made by collaboration and consensus.”

No one group is meant to have an overall majority and yet every angle director is a member of one group. Doesn’t add up to me.

 

I know I put this up earlier but, as before you choose to ignore it.
 

This is a legal requirement that directors must adhere to.

If you feel that isn’t being adhered to, let the club know. Or tell us here. But if you have no evidence then just admit it’s an emotional reaction.

Here’s the full list  

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/being-a-company-director

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/being-a-company-director

Edited July 10, 2022 by Brockvillenomore

[RC55 FFC]

Brad McKay was better yesterday versus Brad McKay of last season, he also took his penalty well. But he was far from being solid with at least 3 occasions he kicked fresh air instead of the ball that could have been costly. I think he’ll be back up once both Donaldson & Henderson are available. Watson too to come back in Oct/Nov time. 

[Jackie Myles]

Whilst you could get reps who are in fss but not patrons  you'll struggle to get patrons reps who aren't members of fss I would think so one way or another your going to have a group with members on the bod over and above the group's reps. Wouldn't like to think that being a member of fss would stop a patron from being a rep surely.