Reggie Perrin Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 51 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: Or we could just simply stop speculating coming up with the same names and depressing ourselves (even more) once the job DOES come up open it up to applications and see who applies. Pointless speculation on a football forum… …surely not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On Scotland Football Sow before Off the Ball on Saturday Lee Miller one of the guests commented the Gary Holt being involved at team talks did not help the management team and certainly not the players. Would not be surprised if we are seeing again the Gary Holt effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Reading Martin Ritchies book relating his boardroom experiences and it certainly answers a lot of the questions which keep coming up on here. Didn’t realise that Gary Deans was heavily involved in the split up of the stadium company back to the Council and FFC. Regarding NeilMcCann, apparently he cost us a bomb in a pay- off to end his time with us. MR is also scathing about Hughes. Not finished yet but a very good read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 38 minutes ago, strichener said: You guys still shouting for McKinnon's, Miller & McCracken, Sheerin's head. I guess there is hope that you might stumble on the right guy if you empty them every season or so. It does however appear to be déjà vu every time I visit this thread. Hard to argue with that, except that each of these names mentioned have proven to be not up to the job. When Sheerin was appointed I came on here and said we should give him a chance, and that is it all went wrong we would need to look at both him and Gary Holt (especially Holt). On Holt, his job is to give Sheerin the tools to do the job. He has utterly failed to do that and signed people not good enough for this league/club. So Sheerin is working with one hand tied behind his back. trouble is, he's acting like he has both hands tied behind his back and not using the (limited) squad we have to its potential. A good coach can make a bad squad better through good organisation, man-management and development. No evidence of any of this at present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: Did he? So winning under 17s title with st johnstone. League 2 with arbroath and under 20s league with Aberdeen. How is that not a success 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 16 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said: Houston was retiring at the end of the season he got the bullet and that was 5 years ago. He's the assistant manager of the Scotland u21s and I very much doubt he has any interest in being a manager at club level ever again. Houstie is yesterdays man a Falkirk Great as a player and the last manager that gave us good times and my goodness did he not put a team on the park that did the business. As for a new manager ? not one individual of the caliber required will touch us and rightly so with our track record and sacking Sheerin just reinforces that mindset. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: On Scotland Football Sow before Off the Ball on Saturday Lee Miller one of the guests commented the Gary Holt being involved at team talks did not help the management team and certainly not the players. Would not be surprised if we are seeing again the Gary Holt effect. To be fair to Gary Holt, he would probably have attended team talks in order to get familiar with the player’s names before suiting up in order to take on the “near impossible two point challenge” remit from the Chairman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: Houstie is yesterdays man a Falkirk Great as a player and the last manager that gave us good times and my goodness did he not put a team on the park that did the business. As for a new manager ? not one individual of the caliber required will touch us and rightly so with our track record and sacking Sheerin just reinforces that mindset. Can you tell me one individual that is of the calibre, regardless of if they would touch falkirk or not, because all i've seen from people on here is people get their past successes rubbished. Theirs managers at the top level like mourinho who have had great successes at porto, chelsea and inter. Struggled 2nd stint at Chelsea, struggled at Man utd in the league and Tottenham. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: So winning under 17s title with st johnstone. League 2 with arbroath and under 20s league with Aberdeen. How is that not a success I’m judging him in the present and trust me the present is abysmal! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Do folk genuinely think we should keep an absolutely hapless manager just because our last few have proved to be almost as hapless? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: So winning under 17s title with st johnstone. League 2 with arbroath and under 20s league with Aberdeen. How is that not a success He has absolutely no experience of managing a full-time squad of men. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: I’m judging him in the present and trust me the present is abysmal! I'm not denying that but he has had a good track record which is the point. Others have had a good track record even gone on to better results since Falkirk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Gaz said: He has absolutely no experience of managing a full-time squad of men. How do you get experience? Their is part time teams ahead of Falkirk. Guardiola had ran BArcas B team before he managed barcelona. Experience doesn't always bring success. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Duncan Freemason said: More so than at any time in our recent past, a replacement for Sheerin really is hypothetical. Mr Deans, Gordon Colborn and the Rawlins won’t be making any decisions from this point forward. From next week, the PR guy and Gordon Wright are the remnants of the current crew, and “off the record” one of them might be about to stand down……..honest guv, not a word of a lie. The two new guys coming in have a huge task on their hands from trying to understand what it is going to take to get the footballing side back on track (not going to be as simple as dumping Sheerin and Holt). Then they have to deal with the structure of the Board itself including the appointment of a competent Chairman. On top of that, there will be a major task in clearing out the in-house hangers on. Then there is the rebuilding of bridges between the club and supporters and businesses. I am sure the new people are going to find many things under many rocks. Then there is the ever growing off field infrastructure which as recently as the last few weeks is employing yet more people into freshly created roles. Its going to be a thankless wading through all of that stuff, and I would imagine just about all of it is dysfunctional. There are 4 coming in. 2 representing the Patrons and 2 the FSS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Would be amazed if McInnes wanted to give up his cushty job on BT Sport to work with Gary Holt and our merry band of jobbers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkirkBairn2021 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, AL-FFC said: Or we could just simply stop speculating coming up with the same names and depressing ourselves (even more) once the job DOES come up open it up to applications and see who applies. It doesn't matter who applies. We usually try embarrassingly to tap up a completely different candidate who publicly rejects us making a mockery of the whole process. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Do folk genuinely think we should keep an absolutely hapless manager just because our last few have proved to be almost as hapless?Yep there are genuinely some idiots in our support that still think like that. Absolutely mental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkirkBairn2021 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Gaz said: Do folk genuinely think we should keep an absolutely hapless manager just because our last few have proved to be almost as hapless? Appears so. Some sort of bizarre clownery that thinks we are wrong to sack the worst manager in our entire history because...erm.. it will show that we sack managers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, lanky_ffc said: Would be amazed if McInnes wanted to give up his cushty job on BT Sport to work with Gary Holt and our merry band of jobbers Even if he wasn't being a pundit, it's highly unlikely he would drop to the 3rd tier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Idiotic response! Reasoning please?Ooft that’s ironic.But if you’d have read the thread rather than diving in you’d have seen my reasoning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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