The Falkirk FC Thread

[Hank von Hell]

5 hours ago, FalkirkBairn2021 said:

I don't think I could choose between the tent salesman and Deans. I despise both of them equally 

Craig, Deans (Hamish) & Craig Campbell - The Unholy Trinity..........there are no bigger villains' in our history.    

Gary Deans is an incompetent arrogant buffoon but he's not in their league of destruction. 

[MrDust]

12 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Problem with telfer is when the going gets tough he vanishes. When it's a nice open game he can be excellent but if it's physical and space is at a premium he isn't up to much. He should stand out like a sore thumb week in week out at this level.

No way should we have more than 2 or 3 in a league 11. Nesbitt and Morrison yes but that's about it for me.

I personally think we are seeing a fully fit Telfer this season, the ground he is covering is unreal

Nesbitt has been a good signing but hasn't kicked a ball for us in recent weeks and as much as Morrison is a key player for us he has his weaknesses, which is why he is with us.

Tbh it shouldn't be a big ask for a full time team to have at least 4 or 5 players in a league select for league one

8 hours ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

 

 She won’t thank me for dragging her name into this, but Sarah Scott sums up that mentality. She was treated abysmally but refused to walk away and won in the end.

So will the fans. Stick in, stick around, and eventually by the law of averages we’ll surely get the board, manager and team that we want.

Sarah Scott is an absolute legend treated brutally by the club. She put the club first which is something a lot of our board could learn from.

As mentioned Baptie and many more still getting same treatment years on. Our playing budget has decreased this season yet our staff budget has increased and we are looking for volunteers for roles.....hmmmmmm

I'd love to share your law of averages things will change, as it stands we are losing fans year in year out, I had friends that choose streaming rather than go (season ticket holders) on Saturday. The product on the park is all that matters aka wins and we ain't producing either the product or wins and losing money week in week out. Some could say we are in as big as mess as we were when we went into administration, I'd disagree as I never once thought we would fail to get out of administration but I fear we are in a hole we won't get out of now. The Rawlins obviously agree too

 

[bridge of allan bairn]

A couple of brilliant posts from Rugster and Bainsfordbairn, thankyou both. The kind of post I needed as I fear drifting for good at this rate.

[Shadwell Dog]

3 hours ago, MrDust said:

I personally think we are seeing a fully fit Telfer this season, the ground he is covering is unreal

Nesbitt has been a good signing but hasn't kicked a ball for us in recent weeks and as much as Morrison is a key player for us he has his weaknesses, which is why he is with us.

Tbh it shouldn't be a big ask for a full time team to have at least 4 or 5 players in a league select for league one

Sarah Scott is an absolute legend treated brutally by the club. She put the club first which is something a lot of our board could learn from.

As mentioned Baptie and many more still getting same treatment years on. Our playing budget has decreased this season yet our staff budget has increased and we are looking for volunteers for roles.....hmmmmmm

I'd love to share your law of averages things will change, as it stands we are losing fans year in year out, I had friends that choose streaming rather than go (season ticket holders) on Saturday. The product on the park is all that matters aka wins and we ain't producing either the product or wins and losing money week in week out. Some could say we are in as big as mess as we were when we went into administration, I'd disagree as I never once thought we would fail to get out of administration but I fear we are in a hole we won't get out of now. The Rawlins obviously agree too

 

Half the battle for me is the players we have that are meant to be doing the work for the skillful players just are never up to the job.  Miller, Hetherington, Payton, Osman, gomis towards the tail end. They are the players that need to ensure that guys like telfer, nisbett etc can play by dominating the midfield but they never seem good enough. This means you get the other guys having to help out doing stuff they just aren't set out for.  This to me is why a number of our players move on and do okay elsewhere. They have better players around them at their new clubs. Alston for instance has been far better at Kilmarnock than he was for us last season playing alongside the likes of polworth and mcginn.

[Sarcastic Bairn]

If you need someone for a role and it adds value, you pay them.

If the budget doesn't allow it, it comes out your salary.

Never abuse or take for granted is a policy I wish our board would follow, for some reason we fail at this over and over.

 

[ShaggerG]

6 hours ago, MrDust said:

I personally think we are seeing a fully fit Telfer this season, the ground he is covering is unreal

Nesbitt has been a good signing but hasn't kicked a ball for us in recent weeks and as much as Morrison is a key player for us he has his weaknesses, which is why he is with us.

Tbh it shouldn't be a big ask for a full time team to have at least 4 or 5 players in a league select for league one

Sarah Scott is an absolute legend treated brutally by the club. She put the club first which is something a lot of our board could learn from.

As mentioned Baptie and many more still getting same treatment years on. Our playing budget has decreased this season yet our staff budget has increased and we are looking for volunteers for roles.....hmmmmmm

I'd love to share your law of averages things will change, as it stands we are losing fans year in year out, I had friends that choose streaming rather than go (season ticket holders) on Saturday. The product on the park is all that matters aka wins and we ain't producing either the product or wins and losing money week in week out. Some could say we are in as big as mess as we were when we went into administration, I'd disagree as I never once thought we would fail to get out of administration but I fear we are in a hole we won't get out of now. The Rawlins obviously agree too

 

Telfer's our best player IMO.

[Newbornbairn]

All these negative stories coming out of the club, I'm sure our PR Guru on the board hasn't resigned because he's leaping into action as I type.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any moment now....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just wait and see.....

[Zbairn]

2 hours ago, Newbornbairn said:

All these negative stories coming out of the club, I'm sure our PR Guru on the board hasn't resigned because he's leaping into action as I type.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any moment now....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just wait and see.....

We have a PR guru on the Board?? 

Who knows what the club would be like if we didn’t !

Edited November 9, 2021 by Zbairn

[HopeStreetWalker]

21 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Problem with telfer is when the going gets tough he vanishes. When it's a nice open game he can be excellent but if it's physical and space is at a premium he isn't up to much. He should stand out like a sore thumb week in week out at this level.

No way should we have more than 2 or 3 in a league 11. Nesbitt and Morrison yes but that's about it for me.

That is where the player around him come in to be the physical presence to allow him to play.

Best example of that is from the whinging cheats 11

Strachan had Simpson and Cooper on either side of him allowing him to dictate the game without having to get stuck in which was never one of his strong points. 

Get two athletic physical players in the Crawford Baptie / Jim Shirra mould and the team will get the best out of Telfer

[Rocco]

I’m hearing it was Thomson that told Dave Mac he wasn’t needed. By the time the board heard and apologised, it was too late. 
 

The fact they let that idiot still swan about is farcical. 

[Dawson Park Boy]

1 minute ago, Rocco said:

I’m hearing it was Thomson that told Dave Mac he wasn’t needed. By the time the board heard and apologised, it was too late. 
 

The fact they let that idiot still swan about is farcical. 

What actually is his role?

[Guest]

So, it’s nearly three weeks since this incident. Every bit of counsel I have taken has come up with the same word (untenable), yet nothing has happened, so it’s time to tell the story.

A member of the Board of FFC didn’t care for my dim view of their performance in what was their specialist field. This was based entirely on my having a go at his performance on the anonymous football forum we know as Pie and Bovril, and I also stated that the company he worked for was seriously small beer.

He tried the spin of claiming my criticism was on “social media” which kind of infers what most people relate to as being FB, Instagram, Twitter and the likes. I don’t hold an account on any of those.

So, his course of action might reasonably have been to join P&B and maybe have a pop back, or just suck it up as being pretty damn close to the truth. That is not what he did.

No, this Board member of FFC took a different path. He sent an abusive text. It’s what a communications specialist would do, right? Nah, I didn’t think so either.

That act alone should have been enough to see him step down immediately in order not to bring further shame  on the Board of FFC. He didn’t do that though.

Thing is, sending me an abusive text message didn’t happen. 

That person didn’t send the text to me. That person sent it to my son…………he sent an abusive text about a father to his son. He dragged my son into his world of horrendously bad judgement and wholly questionable temperament.

So, now you have two people absolutely raging. The FFC Director claimed he was “angry” when he sent it. His anger registered nowhere near the anger that I and my son both felt, but hey, we didn’t send him abusive texts in return. I suppose we both exercised restraint and common sense and a bit of judgement in not acting as he did.

I wrote to every Board member, and Mr Deans responded on behalf of the Board saying that he was concerned by the complaint I had outlined. He wanted to meet at the stadium to discuss the matter. I declined. 

I fully accepted that he did not want to commit anything to email, whereas I wanted nothing verbal that could be spun or re-interpreted. My complaint was not an outline…..it was fully formed with the evidence to back it up.

To crank it up even further, this person then went back to WhatsApp, and deleted the message in the hope of destroying the evidence. As my son put it “he clearly doesn’t understand how the internet works”.

So has this person taken the only reasonable course open to him and resigned from the Board? Sadly, no. That person is still there. 

For me, that is yet another stunning manifestation of his highly questionable judgement.
If he had made the choice to do the honourable thing and stood down immediately, I would not have put this into the public domain, but it seems potential damage to his reputation is a price he used prepared to pay in order to cling on. 

This person might see themselves as a communications expert, but it seems action and consequence simply doesn’t appear on their particular radar.

Edited November 9, 2021 by Duncan Freemason

[AL-FFC]

2 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

 

So, it’s nearly three weeks since this incident took place. Every bit of counsel I have taken since then stops me before I am half way through with the same word…..untenable. Nothing has happened, so here I am.

A member of the Board of FFC didn’t care for my dim view of their performance in what was their specialist field. This was based entirely on my having a go at his performance on the anonymous football forum we know as Pie and Bovril, and I also stated that the company he worked for was seriously small beer.

 

He tried the spin of claiming my criticism was on “social media” which kind of infers what most people relate to as being FB, Instagram, Twitter and the likes. I don’t hold an account on any of those.

 

So, his course of action might reasonably have been to join P&B and maybe have a pop back, or just suck it up as being pretty damn close to the truth. That is not what he did.

 

No, this Board member of FFC took a different path. He sent an abusive text. It’s what a communications specialist would do, right? Nah, I didn’t think so either.

 

That act alone should have been enough to see him step down immediately in order not to bring further shame  on the Board of FFC. He didn’t do that though.

 

Thing is, sending me an abusive text message didn’t happen. 

 

That person didn’t send the text to me. That person sent it to my son…………he sent an abusive text about a father to his son. He dragged my son into his world of horrendously bad judgement and wholly questionable temperament.

 

So, now you have two people absolutely raging. The FFC Director claimed he was “angry” when he sent it. His anger registered nowhere near the anger that I and my son both felt, but hey, we didn’t send him abusive texts in return. I suppose we both exercised restraint and common sense and a bit of judgement in not acting as he did.

 

I wrote to every Board member, and Mr Deans responded on behalf of the Board saying that he was concerned by the complaint I had outlined. He wanted to meet at the stadium to discuss the matter. I declined. 

 

I fully accepted that he did not want to commit anything to email, whereas I wanted nothing verbal that could be spun or re-interpreted. My complaint was not an outline…..it was fully formed with the evidence to back it up.

 

To crank it up even further, this person then went back to WhatsApp, and deleted the message in the hope of destroying the evidence. As my son put it “he clearly doesn’t understand how the internet works”.

 

So has this person taken the only reasonable course open to him and resigned from the Board? Sadly, no. That person is still there. 

 

For me, that is yet another stunning manifestation of his highly questionable judgement.

If he had made the choice to do the honourable thing and stood down immediately, I would not have put this into the public domain, but it seems potential damage to his reputation is a price he used prepared to pay in order to cling on. 

 

This person might see themselves as a communications expert, but it seems action and consequence simply doesn’t appear on their particular radar.

 

I take it thats the same board member that threated another board member which resulted in the other board member resigning.

I think its pretty much easy to say the problems at the club lie at the top

[falkirkzombie]

 

9 minutes ago, Rocco said:

I’m hearing it was Thomson that told Dave Mac he wasn’t needed. By the time the board heard and apologised, it was too late. 
 

The fact they let that idiot still swan about is farcical. 

I would put good money on the fact it was AT also leaking financial numbers to the press. 

I really don't get why he seems to be so indispensable to the club, especially when his name is mud to the majority of the fan base

[brokeville]

 

So, it’s nearly three weeks since this incident took place. Every bit of counsel I have taken since then stops me before I am half way through with the same word…..untenable. Nothing has happened, so here I am.

A member of the Board of FFC didn’t care for my dim view of their performance in what was their specialist field. This was based entirely on my having a go at his performance on the anonymous football forum we know as Pie and Bovril, and I also stated that the company he worked for was seriously small beer.

 

He tried the spin of claiming my criticism was on “social media” which kind of infers what most people relate to as being FB, Instagram, Twitter and the likes. I don’t hold an account on any of those.

 

So, his course of action might reasonably have been to join P&B and maybe have a pop back, or just suck it up as being pretty damn close to the truth. That is not what he did.

 

No, this Board member of FFC took a different path. He sent an abusive text. It’s what a communications specialist would do, right? Nah, I didn’t think so either.

 

That act alone should have been enough to see him step down immediately in order not to bring further shame  on the Board of FFC. He didn’t do that though.

 

Thing is, sending me an abusive text message didn’t happen. 

 

That person didn’t send the text to me. That person sent it to my son…………he sent an abusive text about a father to his son. He dragged my son into his world of horrendously bad judgement and wholly questionable temperament.

 

So, now you have two people absolutely raging. The FFC Director claimed he was “angry” when he sent it. His anger registered nowhere near the anger that I and my son both felt, but hey, we didn’t send him abusive texts in return. I suppose we both exercised restraint and common sense and a bit of judgement in not acting as he did.

 

I wrote to every Board member, and Mr Deans responded on behalf of the Board saying that he was concerned by the complaint I had outlined. He wanted to meet at the stadium to discuss the matter. I declined. 

 

I fully accepted that he did not want to commit anything to email, whereas I wanted nothing verbal that could be spun or re-interpreted. My complaint was not an outline…..it was fully formed with the evidence to back it up.

 

To crank it up even further, this person then went back to WhatsApp, and deleted the message in the hope of destroying the evidence. As my son put it “he clearly doesn’t understand how the internet works”.

 

So has this person taken the only reasonable course open to him and resigned from the Board? Sadly, no. That person is still there. 

 

For me, that is yet another stunning manifestation of his highly questionable judgement.

If he had made the choice to do the honourable thing and stood down immediately, I would not have put this into the public domain, but it seems potential damage to his reputation is a price he used prepared to pay in order to cling on. 

 

This person might see themselves as a communications expert, but it seems action and consequence simply doesn’t appear on their particular radar.

 

Things are going from bad to worse. There can only be one outcome after this.

[Ranaldo Bairn]

11 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

 

So, it’s nearly three weeks since this incident took place. Every bit of counsel I have taken since then stops me before I am half way through with the same word…..untenable. Nothing has happened, so here I am.

A member of the Board of FFC didn’t care for my dim view of their performance in what was their specialist field. This was based entirely on my having a go at his performance on the anonymous football forum we know as Pie and Bovril, and I also stated that the company he worked for was seriously small beer.

 

He tried the spin of claiming my criticism was on “social media” which kind of infers what most people relate to as being FB, Instagram, Twitter and the likes. I don’t hold an account on any of those.

 

So, his course of action might reasonably have been to join P&B and maybe have a pop back, or just suck it up as being pretty damn close to the truth. That is not what he did.

 

No, this Board member of FFC took a different path. He sent an abusive text. It’s what a communications specialist would do, right? Nah, I didn’t think so either.

 

That act alone should have been enough to see him step down immediately in order not to bring further shame  on the Board of FFC. He didn’t do that though.

 

Thing is, sending me an abusive text message didn’t happen. 

 

That person didn’t send the text to me. That person sent it to my son…………he sent an abusive text about a father to his son. He dragged my son into his world of horrendously bad judgement and wholly questionable temperament.

 

So, now you have two people absolutely raging. The FFC Director claimed he was “angry” when he sent it. His anger registered nowhere near the anger that I and my son both felt, but hey, we didn’t send him abusive texts in return. I suppose we both exercised restraint and common sense and a bit of judgement in not acting as he did.

 

I wrote to every Board member, and Mr Deans responded on behalf of the Board saying that he was concerned by the complaint I had outlined. He wanted to meet at the stadium to discuss the matter. I declined. 

 

I fully accepted that he did not want to commit anything to email, whereas I wanted nothing verbal that could be spun or re-interpreted. My complaint was not an outline…..it was fully formed with the evidence to back it up.

 

To crank it up even further, this person then went back to WhatsApp, and deleted the message in the hope of destroying the evidence. As my son put it “he clearly doesn’t understand how the internet works”.

 

So has this person taken the only reasonable course open to him and resigned from the Board? Sadly, no. That person is still there. 

 

For me, that is yet another stunning manifestation of his highly questionable judgement.

If he had made the choice to do the honourable thing and stood down immediately, I would not have put this into the public domain, but it seems potential damage to his reputation is a price he used prepared to pay in order to cling on. 

 

This person might see themselves as a communications expert, but it seems action and consequence simply doesn’t appear on their particular radar.

 

Pardon me asking Duncan, but is this you speaking? Or relaying a message from a contact? I.e. did this happen to you/your son?

[Reggie Perrin]

15 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

 

So, it’s nearly three weeks since this incident took place. Every bit of counsel I have taken since then stops me before I am half way through with the same word…..untenable. Nothing has happened, so here I am.

A member of the Board of FFC didn’t care for my dim view of their performance in what was their specialist field. This was based entirely on my having a go at his performance on the anonymous football forum we know as Pie and Bovril, and I also stated that the company he worked for was seriously small beer.

 

He tried the spin of claiming my criticism was on “social media” which kind of infers what most people relate to as being FB, Instagram, Twitter and the likes. I don’t hold an account on any of those.

 

So, his course of action might reasonably have been to join P&B and maybe have a pop back, or just suck it up as being pretty damn close to the truth. That is not what he did.

 

No, this Board member of FFC took a different path. He sent an abusive text. It’s what a communications specialist would do, right? Nah, I didn’t think so either.

 

That act alone should have been enough to see him step down immediately in order not to bring further shame  on the Board of FFC. He didn’t do that though.

 

Thing is, sending me an abusive text message didn’t happen. 

 

That person didn’t send the text to me. That person sent it to my son…………he sent an abusive text about a father to his son. He dragged my son into his world of horrendously bad judgement and wholly questionable temperament.

 

So, now you have two people absolutely raging. The FFC Director claimed he was “angry” when he sent it. His anger registered nowhere near the anger that I and my son both felt, but hey, we didn’t send him abusive texts in return. I suppose we both exercised restraint and common sense and a bit of judgement in not acting as he did.

 

I wrote to every Board member, and Mr Deans responded on behalf of the Board saying that he was concerned by the complaint I had outlined. He wanted to meet at the stadium to discuss the matter. I declined. 

 

I fully accepted that he did not want to commit anything to email, whereas I wanted nothing verbal that could be spun or re-interpreted. My complaint was not an outline…..it was fully formed with the evidence to back it up.

 

To crank it up even further, this person then went back to WhatsApp, and deleted the message in the hope of destroying the evidence. As my son put it “he clearly doesn’t understand how the internet works”.

 

So has this person taken the only reasonable course open to him and resigned from the Board? Sadly, no. That person is still there. 

 

For me, that is yet another stunning manifestation of his highly questionable judgement.

If he had made the choice to do the honourable thing and stood down immediately, I would not have put this into the public domain, but it seems potential damage to his reputation is a price he used prepared to pay in order to cling on. 

 

This person might see themselves as a communications expert, but it seems action and consequence simply doesn’t appear on their particular radar.

 

Bewilderingly low standard of person populating our Boardroom.

[Zbairn]

22 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

 

So, it’s nearly three weeks since this incident took place. Every bit of counsel I have taken since then stops me before I am half way through with the same word…..untenable. Nothing has happened, so here I am.

A member of the Board of FFC didn’t care for my dim view of their performance in what was their specialist field. This was based entirely on my having a go at his performance on the anonymous football forum we know as Pie and Bovril, and I also stated that the company he worked for was seriously small beer.

 

He tried the spin of claiming my criticism was on “social media” which kind of infers what most people relate to as being FB, Instagram, Twitter and the likes. I don’t hold an account on any of those.

 

So, his course of action might reasonably have been to join P&B and maybe have a pop back, or just suck it up as being pretty damn close to the truth. That is not what he did.

 

No, this Board member of FFC took a different path. He sent an abusive text. It’s what a communications specialist would do, right? Nah, I didn’t think so either.

 

That act alone should have been enough to see him step down immediately in order not to bring further shame  on the Board of FFC. He didn’t do that though.

 

Thing is, sending me an abusive text message didn’t happen. 

 

That person didn’t send the text to me. That person sent it to my son…………he sent an abusive text about a father to his son. He dragged my son into his world of horrendously bad judgement and wholly questionable temperament.

 

So, now you have two people absolutely raging. The FFC Director claimed he was “angry” when he sent it. His anger registered nowhere near the anger that I and my son both felt, but hey, we didn’t send him abusive texts in return. I suppose we both exercised restraint and common sense and a bit of judgement in not acting as he did.

 

I wrote to every Board member, and Mr Deans responded on behalf of the Board saying that he was concerned by the complaint I had outlined. He wanted to meet at the stadium to discuss the matter. I declined. 

 

I fully accepted that he did not want to commit anything to email, whereas I wanted nothing verbal that could be spun or re-interpreted. My complaint was not an outline…..it was fully formed with the evidence to back it up.

 

To crank it up even further, this person then went back to WhatsApp, and deleted the message in the hope of destroying the evidence. As my son put it “he clearly doesn’t understand how the internet works”.

 

So has this person taken the only reasonable course open to him and resigned from the Board? Sadly, no. That person is still there. 

 

For me, that is yet another stunning manifestation of his highly questionable judgement.

If he had made the choice to do the honourable thing and stood down immediately, I would not have put this into the public domain, but it seems potential damage to his reputation is a price he used prepared to pay in order to cling on. 

 

This person might see themselves as a communications expert, but it seems action and consequence simply doesn’t appear on their particular radar.

 

Think this referrs to our PR Guru. Unbelievable that he hasn't resigned over this. Also unbelievable that GD has not done anything to make him resign over this. If the Q&A wasn't bad enough, this is now bringing our club into more disrepute. You would think that the Board could not stoop any lower to divide itself between the club and fans but this is a new low.  How much more shambolic can we get ? If the press get this, they will have a field day !!!!

[Guest Caractacus Potts]

Just can’t believe what I’ve been reading on here recently. Maybe I should given my own low views on those running the club but it just gets worse and worse.

Under any circumstances an issue like this would be taken deadly serious but by the sounds of it there has been no action. 

If it’s who I think you are referring to then they have some cheek to challenge someone for criticising them when they openly questioned the abilities of former players in an open forum. 

[joozy]

I love the fact that the lesson some board members took away from the Q&A session was that they needed to be more aggressive and insulting when communicating with fans.  

Yet another PR disaster.