Proudtobeabairn Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) As others have said, this year will be a big test of exactly what the Rawlins plans are and whether they're likely to move us forward. I have no affiliation with the board whatsoever (or any fans group) but I said previously it was naive to expect the Rawlins to allow the fans group to have parity before they'd had a chance to do what they originally bought into the club to do. If the fans group had invested 12 months ago or been prepared to negotiate their red lines then things could have been different but the Rawlins got their first so are not likely to want to dilute their influence before they've had the chance to do things their way. Don't forget, they're only here because the fans backed their investment. I get how in black and white the value of the fans group investment should allow them to have a say but things are not always so straightforward and both timing and demands made are important. Overall what I've heard about the fans group on here is positive and hopefully a safety net if things go tits up but some of the whinging on here doesn't do the fans group any favours, and the bull in china shop approach is very unlikely to get any of the current board onside. Edited June 1, 2021 by Proudtobeabairn 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick boy Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Announce mcmanus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan1985 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, sick boy said: Announce mcmanus Be amazed if that happens tbh...sounds like a vicious rumour off the back of an Instagram post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, Proudtobeabairn said: As others have said, this year will be a big test of exactly what the Rawlins plans are and whether they're likely to move us forward. I have no affiliation with the board whatsoever (or any fans group) but I said previously it was naive to expect the Rawlins to allow the fans group to have parity before they'd had a chance to do what they originally bought into the club to do. If the fans group had invested 12 months ago or been prepared to negotiate their red lines then things could have been different but the Rawlins got their first so are not likely to want to dilute their influence before they've had the chance to do things their way. Don't forget, they're only here because the fans backed their investment. I get how in black and white the value of the fans group investment should allow them to have a say but things are not always so straightforward and both timing and demands made are important. Overall what I've heard about the fans group on here is positive and hopefully a safety net if things go tits up but some of the whinging on here doesn't do the fans group any favours, and the bull in china shop approach is very unlikely to get any of the current board onside. I know people in the fans group and although I’m not privileged to know exactly how the negotiations were held, suggesting it was a bull in a China shop approach is unfair? As far as I’m aware they put forward a good reasonable proposal and their requests were gradually refused till eventually they were dismissed with petulant disregard. What would be helpful though is if the patrons themselves could release a statement stating a bit more about what occurred. Think it would be good for fans to see rather than hearing it second hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I think what's went on with the fans group when people have posted about it comes as a bit of a bull in a china shop(I admit reading it that way as well) , but by what's been put above they (out Board of Directors) have done the same as what happened with Kenny Jamieson and the proposals for fan ownership gave them a load of criteria then basically fobbing them off to entertaining the coffee baron (Mark Campbell )to meet and as they have met each criteria they have basically fobbed it off. Cash is king but obviously in this cash as far as dealing with our BoD goes it isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 60 days to the start of the new season. It takes 60 days between a drinks can arriving at a recycling centre and it appearing back on the shelf in the supermarket. Do you think if we dumped Alston, Hall and Francis there we could get one decent player back? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: 60 days to the start of the new season. It takes 60 days between a drinks can arriving at a recycling centre and it appearing back on the shelf in the supermarket. Do you think if we dumped Alston, Hall and Francis there we could get one decent player back? Could get a more than decent player for what Alston and sammon combined would have been on I'd imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Proudtobeabairn said: As others have said, this year will be a big test of exactly what the Rawlins plans are and whether they're likely to move us forward. I have no affiliation with the board whatsoever (or any fans group) but I said previously it was naive to expect the Rawlins to allow the fans group to have parity before they'd had a chance to do what they originally bought into the club to do. If the fans group had invested 12 months ago or been prepared to negotiate their red lines then things could have been different but the Rawlins got their first so are not likely to want to dilute their influence before they've had the chance to do things their way. Don't forget, they're only here because the fans backed their investment. I get how in black and white the value of the fans group investment should allow them to have a say but things are not always so straightforward and both timing and demands made are important. Overall what I've heard about the fans group on here is positive and hopefully a safety net if things go tits up but some of the whinging on here doesn't do the fans group any favours, and the bull in china shop approach is very unlikely to get any of the current board onside. This fans group did try and invest previously. When mark Campbell appeared on the scene and the fan ownership got sent packing these patrons offered to buy the club then but were knocked back for that clown. They have been about as a group well before Rawlins ever appeared. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zbairn Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Brockvillenomore said: Exactly right; except now they need to fund the shortfall in season ticket sales, sponsorship and the likely refund we are all due as season ticket holders for last season when the games were drastically reduced. I've see one calculation that puts the refund due as between £150K and £180K; I've also seen correspondence from the Trading Standards sent to all clubs in April confirming refunds are a legal requirement. I for one will be asking for a refund, or shares, as well as a GIRUY for last seasons 'gift' - refund or shares for them too please. The tone deaf treatment of the CI and the £600k investment is enough for me. This is Deans and Fulston territory now. This has alway sbeen my main cause for concern..... and Gary Deans, along with the rest of the supliant Board members, have handed them the key to the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Peter LaFleur Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Latest club tweet hopefully relieving Shadwell’s blood pressure ever so slightly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18BAIRN76 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 He automatically has my respect for going through with this signing after seeing first-hand what he was getting himself into only a few weeks ago. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latapythelegend Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Happy its over the line. That graphic also reminded me that we are having a light blue away kit next year. Heard it a few weeks back. That will make a nice change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick boy Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, latapythelegend said: Happy its over the line. That graphic also reminded me that we are having a light blue away kit next year. Heard it a few weeks back. That will make a nice change. the home one is horrific 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter LaFleur Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, sick boy said: the home one is horrific Williamson will feel he’s back at Dunfermline. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick boy Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just now, Peter LaFleur said: Williamson will feel he’s back at Dunfermline. My thoughts exactly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, sick boy said: the home one is horrific Is it still Puma with Central Demolition as sponsor. To be fair I though both last seasons home and away were absolutely ganting. Never been a fan of red away tops, white every day for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Harry Kinnear said: Is it still Puma with Central Demolition as sponsor. To be fair I though both last seasons home and away were absolutely ganting. Never been a fan of red away tops, white every day for me. Far as I'd been led to believe central dem had given up their sponsorship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalWolf Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said: Every other club does it that's all. Just wondered why we don't. Nothing else to it. did we not announce the pre-contract of Tidser? I have a feeling we did and then it almost fell through.... in hindsight would have been better had it fallen through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latapythelegend Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Any idea how much longer we need to put up with Puma? They have been honking since 2015 IMO. Would love a wee Hummel or Macron number. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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