Zbairn Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 6 hours ago, AL-FFC said: Can't believe folk that moan about a DoF role saying its not needing and then want to employ someone for PR . I couldnt really care if they announced his departure with sign writing in the sky as long as he is gone how he has managed to carve a career out in football i will never know. His woeful defending and in some cases sending off(s) is part of the reason we are still in this league. This has nothing to do with his performances, which you rightly say were woeful. ....but the club made a PR mess by singling him out. The point is that this is not the first time we have made a PR boob. In fact, it has been going on for a good number of seasons now. Just a few examples. Think about the badge copyright fiasco, calling a fan a racist, the ongoing saga with the Crunchie Initiative, which was an open goal for the club in PR terms but they have decided to boot the ball over the bar at the Hope St. end onto a train that is bound for Carlisle. We have PR expert on the Board who should be aware of the potential fall out of this and other recent issues. Although we all want to see a winning team on the pitch, which is a priority, the admin and PR side is integral to the success of the club. We are reliant on finances from sponsors, goodwill from other benefactors and the way the club appears to be run for potential incoming players. PR issues do not help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Zbairn said: This has nothing to do with his performances, which you rightly say were woeful. ....but the club made a PR mess by singling him out. The point is that this is not the first time we have made a PR boob. In fact, it has been going on for a good number of seasons now. Just a few examples. Think about the badge copyright fiasco, calling a fan a racist, the ongoing saga with the Crunchie Initiative, which was an open goal for the club in PR terms but they have decided to boot the ball over the bar at the Hope St. end onto a train that is bound for Carlisle. We have PR expert on the Board who should be aware of the potential fall out of this and other recent issues. Although we all want to see a winning team on the pitch, which is a priority, the admin and PR side is integral to the success of the club. We are reliant on finances from sponsors, goodwill from other benefactors and the way the club appears to be run for potential incoming players. PR issues do not help. We haven't. I will shoe the board for almost anything, but this is just nonsense thats already rumbled on way too long. Theres absolutely nothing to see. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Peter LaFleur said: I think/hope this is how it will work once a new manager is in place. Would not put it past Falkirk appointing a new manager 3 weeks before the new season kicks off. They are inept enough to do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 This has nothing to do with his performances, which you rightly say were woeful. ....but the club made a PR mess by singling him out. The point is that this is not the first time we have made a PR boob. In fact, it has been going on for a good number of seasons now. Just a few examples. Think about the badge copyright fiasco, calling a fan a racist, the ongoing saga with the Crunchie Initiative, which was an open goal for the club in PR terms but they have decided to boot the ball over the bar at the Hope St. end onto a train that is bound for Carlisle. We have PR expert on the Board who should be aware of the potential fall out of this and other recent issues. Although we all want to see a winning team on the pitch, which is a priority, the admin and PR side is integral to the success of the club. We are reliant on finances from sponsors, goodwill from other benefactors and the way the club appears to be run for potential incoming players. PR issues do not help. Are you being serious? It’s obvious the club must have spoken to him about staying, hence why he wasn’t on the original list, but that has broken down. The club is would have released that statement as fans will no doubt start hearing that he is in discussions/signing for another club. I bet if the club waited and we found out he was going elsewhere, there would be an uproar that the club never told us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestAl Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) On 13/05/2021 at 12:33, TheScarf said: He's been back a couple of weeks so I was reading on our thread on here. but nothing official from the club yet. Who is Robbo? Edit - uh oh, didn’t realise we’re talking about another team in another league Edited May 14, 2021 by HonestAl Discussion of ICT in Falkirk thread.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 42 minutes ago, Zbairn said: This has nothing to do with his performances, which you rightly say were woeful. ....but the club made a PR mess by singling him out. The point is that this is not the first time we have made a PR boob. In fact, it has been going on for a good number of seasons now. Just a few examples. Think about the badge copyright fiasco, calling a fan a racist, the ongoing saga with the Crunchie Initiative, which was an open goal for the club in PR terms but they have decided to boot the ball over the bar at the Hope St. end onto a train that is bound for Carlisle. We have PR expert on the Board who should be aware of the potential fall out of this and other recent issues. Although we all want to see a winning team on the pitch, which is a priority, the admin and PR side is integral to the success of the club. We are reliant on finances from sponsors, goodwill from other benefactors and the way the club appears to be run for potential incoming players. PR issues do not help. In the ever growing list of PR disasters that the club have had, a single player and not a very good one at that being posted on the website. The headline of Mark Durnan leaves the club is nowhere near even close to a PR disaster, its hardly up there with the closure of the academy, the threat of legal action against a supporters group and branding the fanbase rascists, what did you want them to do wait till the others have failed to agree terms or were you wanting to throw a surprise farewell party for him on his departure and have a big banner on the front of TFS saying good luck and sorry your leaving? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, FFC 1876 said: Get the new manager sorted then let him come in and decide which players he wants to keep for next season and which ones he doesn't. Also once you've got the new manager in he should have the final say on which player comes in. Perfect scenario, new manager comes in, goes to Holt and says I need a centre midfielder. Holt goes out and gives the manager the options he has sourced and the manager makes the final decision on which player he wants in. It's not rocket science but when a manager has to rely on his squad in order to be successful in their job he should have a say on who's in that squad. Agree with you and I think that’s what will happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Are folk actually moaning at the club telling the fans that a player is leaving at the end of his contract? I know the club is a mess but jeezo there is no need to moan about every wee thing! Imagine a tabloid saying he is leaving and the club never told us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I don’t know a single person who wanted him to stay, he’s away so move on. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Zbairn said: This has nothing to do with his performances, which you rightly say were woeful. ....but the club made a PR mess by singling him out. The point is that this is not the first time we have made a PR boob. In fact, it has been going on for a good number of seasons now. Just a few examples. Think about the badge copyright fiasco, calling a fan a racist, the ongoing saga with the Crunchie Initiative, which was an open goal for the club in PR terms but they have decided to boot the ball over the bar at the Hope St. end onto a train that is bound for Carlisle. We have PR expert on the Board who should be aware of the potential fall out of this and other recent issues. Although we all want to see a winning team on the pitch, which is a priority, the admin and PR side is integral to the success of the club. We are reliant on finances from sponsors, goodwill from other benefactors and the way the club appears to be run for potential incoming players. PR issues do not help. Ok, tell me exactly what the club should have done regarding Durnan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 This Durnan “PR boob / disaster” patter is ridiculous. A player left the club a statement was issued. Absolutely nothing to discuss other than the whether or not the player would be a loss. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter LaFleur Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) Anyway... the new manager shortlist to be handed to the board tomorrow? With interviews to take place is it unrealistic to expect a new manager in place in 2 weeks time? Edited May 13, 2021 by Peter LaFleur 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Peter LaFleur said: Anyway... the new manager shortlist to be handed to the board tomorrow? With interviews to take place is it unrealistic to expect a new manager in place in 2 weeks time? As I understand it people have already had interviews so I'd imagine most of the shortlist have already been interviewed. Be interesting to hear what that shortlist is though. Grant and Taylor seem the most commonly mentioned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bantabairn said: Applicants have until tomorrow to contact club. Shortlist will be drawn up once deadline is passed. What I mean is people have already been interviewed for the role so they may already have a decent idea of who's going to be on the shortlist. But yes new applicants still have until tomorrow to throw their hat into the ring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebobsboy Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I really hope they don't give it to someone like Martin Canning, just because he's been at Hamilton, working on a shoestring, was instrumental in bringing through young players, his brand of football was honking. Our first signing would be Mikel Antoine Curier 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Puddefoot Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Anyone got the link to latest next manager odds? Can't seem to find it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, Syd Puddefoot said: Anyone got the link to latest next manager odds? Can't seem to find it The best odds you will get is the MSG will f**k it up yet again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank von Hell Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 7 hours ago, AGPar said: A valid concern. That we end up, not with the best candidate, but someone willing and malleable enough to fit in with Holt and whatever his way of working is. I've yet to hear any rationale as to what exactly he has done in his career to be handed this level of influence, basically a carte blanche to decide who stays or goes. He could choose to re-sign, for example, Connolly, Telfer and Hall. Whoever is appointed then decides, after a few days of pre-season training, maybe even sooner, that he doesn't fancy any of them. Don't fit his preferred system. Doesn't like their attitude. Whatever. Resulting in yet more dead money on the books. The majority of the premium dross has been released. None of them will be remotely missed, or can any complaints. But absolutely no further signing or re-signing decisions should be getting made until an appointment is confirmed, and whoever that is has been given the final say. The argument that "until then, it's up to Holt" is nonsense. It should not be his call. Absolutely. The DOF should identify a number of potential signings with the head coach having the final say who is brought in - as he lives and dies on results. This is how is works at most sensible clubs that employ a DOF but I can see us stuffing it up again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Hank von Hell said: Absolutely. The DOF should identify a number of potential signings with the head coach having the final say who is brought in - as he lives and dies on results. This is how is works at most sensible clubs that employ a DOF but I can see us stuffing it up again. Another part of the theoretical advantage of a DoF is that the coach can be relatively without connections in Scottish football. That might be a clue that Rawlins is more involved than it might appear. It also opens an opportunity to recruit an “up and coming” coach versus the usual retread. The common response is “we can’t afford to take a flyer on an unknown”, but the BoD has (thus far) not shown any concern about having made a bollocks of the last few hires. With Falkirk’s budget and a DoF onboard, it seems unlikely anyone could threaten relegation at FFC without being unceremoniously punted for being a complete idiot before destroying the season, and nearly anyone else could then manage a mid-table finish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 12 hours ago, gav-ffc said: I don’t know a single person who wanted him to stay, he’s away so move on. Clearly one did or he would have been on the initial list 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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