FFC 1876 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: Fleetwood. Yeah how did that end up for him. Even the crappiest of managers will have players that say this. There are players that keep signing for clowns like ray McKinnon even though he's a terrible manager. It means nothing. One of the best players in the English Premier League speaking highly of the manager who brought him into the first team at 16 and gave him his chance to shine? Very rarely see that. Very similar story to Sibbald with us, unfortunately Sibbald's development didn't carry on the same trajectory as Maddison's did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said: One of the best players in the English Premier League speaking highly of the manager who brought him into the first team at 16 and gave him his chance to shine? Very rarely see that. Very similar story to Sibbald with us, unfortunately Sibbald's development didn't carry on the same trajectory as Maddison's did. Look frankly I'd rather have had a manager that had a far better signing record that could've got us promoted back to the top flight than one who a few youngsters like because he had to give them a game because his own signings were that poor. If his own signings hadn't flopped so much we would've had an excellent team had a decent chance of going up and then wouldn't have had to flog the young players off so soon after they got in the first team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Fukn hell did Pressley give out sweeties to kids. All you have to do is look at his last season of progression with us, had us bottom of the league, one win in 10 or so but he is the Messiah. It was a miracle Coventry gave us money for him for his fist pumps for away draws to dross in the league, we were a fukn mess under Pressley bar half a season. What kind of sweeties did he hand out ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, MrDust said: Fukn hell did Pressley give out sweeties to kids. All you have to do is look at his last season of progression with us, had us bottom of the league, one win in 10 or so but he is the Messiah. It was a miracle Coventry gave us money for him for his fist pumps for away draws to dross in the league, we were a fukn mess under Pressley bar half a season. What kind of sweeties did he hand out ? Normally the fruit salad chewits but from time to time a wee funsize bag of revels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS RR Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 22 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said: He was forced into playing youngsters because of the dross he was signing. 2012/13 Andy Haworth was supposed to be a major signing and hardly played a game. Chris Smith and Iain Flannigan the same. Robbie Nelson, Ryan mcgeever and Johnny flynn were some of the other crap. One gem was Lyle Taylor but when you've signed so much other crap that season Pele wouldn't help you get promoted. And just because the signings made by Hartley and McKinnon and to a certain extent Houston were even worse doesn't make Pressley some kind of star recruiter. The vast majority of his signings stunk . A jack ross.or an Alex Neil would've got us competing for titles even on.a tight budget. In fact with the standard of young player coming through anyone with a half decent recruitment record could've had us right up there. It was a huge opportunity missed due to having a complete dumpling as the manager as Coventry, Fleetwood and Carlisle have found out since. That's total nonsense, he had to play the youngsters because we had no money to bring in senior players. The players he did bring in were excellent in the 2011/12 campaign and worked brilliantly with the young guys. The bad players Pressley brought in are twice as good as the best players we are buying now. Pressley understood the club and realised giving youths an opportunity was part of the fabric of Falkirk at that point. What I'd give to go back to those days as opposed to the complete dross we watch now, and the suffering we face at the shambolic and disjointed way we are run. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) This is getting ridiculous Khalis twice the player of Morrison? Jordan White better than keena? absolutely convinced this guy is at it. He never realised anything about giving youth a chance. He had zero option as we had zero money Honestly this pressely chat needs thrown in the bin, was delighted we managed to mug Coventry off when they took him off our hands. Edited January 16, 2021 by Believe The Hype 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestfieldBairn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Watching back on our road to the final in 09 and that hearts game had everything. I remember it like it was yesterday, nerves were shot. Pressley’s tackle on Michael Stewart near the end was exactly what someone should have done in the final in 15. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MS RR said: That's total nonsense, he had to play the youngsters because we had no money to bring in senior players. The players he did bring in were excellent in the 2011/12 campaign and worked brilliantly with the young guys. The bad players Pressley brought in are twice as good as the best players we are buying now. Pressley understood the club and realised giving youths an opportunity was part of the fabric of Falkirk at that point. What I'd give to go back to those days as opposed to the complete dross we watch now, and the suffering we face at the shambolic and disjointed way we are run. He brought in senior players and the vast majority were shit. Chris Smith, , Enoch showunmi, Colin Healy, toufik zerara, Kenny deuchar, Mehdi Khalis, Jason Marr, Ross Perry, Rhys Bennett, Jordan white, David weatherston, Willie Gibson, Iain Flannigan, Andy Haworth, Sean Higgins, Ryan mcgeever, Johnny Flynn, Robbie Nelson, the list goes on of complete dross signed by Pressley. That's18 for starters. The good ones arent in double figures. With that ratio your never going to get anywhere. Again if we're going to look back then look back at Jeffries or McCall or Hughes not that joker. Just because we're shite now let's not pretend that was some kind of halcion era. Edited January 16, 2021 by Shadwell Dog 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: He brought in senior players and the vast majority were shit. Chris Smith, Andy Haworth, Enoch showunmi, Colin Healy, toufik zerara, Kenny deuchar, Mehdi Khalis, Jason Marr, Ross Perry, Rhys Bennett, Jordan white, David weatherstin, Willie Gibson, Iain Flannigan, Andy Haworth, Sean Higgins, Ryan mcgeever, Johnny Flynn, Robbie Nelson, the list goes on of complete dross signed by Pressley. That's 20 for starters. The good ones arent in double figures. With that ratio your never going to get anywhere. Again if we're going to look back then look back at Jeffries or McCall or Hughes not that joker. Just because we're shite now let's not pretend that was some kind of halcion era. 18. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS RR Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: He brought in senior players and the vast majority were shit. Chris Smith, Andy Haworth, Enoch showunmi, Colin Healy, toufik zerara, Kenny deuchar, Mehdi Khalis, Jason Marr, Ross Perry, Rhys Bennett, Jordan white, David weatherstin, Willie Gibson, Iain Flannigan, Andy Haworth, Sean Higgins, Ryan mcgeever, Johnny Flynn, Robbie Nelson, the list goes on of complete dross signed by Pressley. That's 20 for starters. The good ones arent in double figures. With that ratio your never going to get anywhere. Again if we're going to look back then look back at Jeffries or McCall or Hughes not that joker. Just because we're shite now let's not pretend that was some kind of halcion era. You really are clueless. Not only have you mentioned Andy Haworth twice, at least half of those players are miles better than what we've got. Those players got us to 3rd in the championship, that's a dream for us now. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: He brought in senior players and the vast majority were shit. Chris Smith, Andy Haworth, Enoch showunmi, Colin Healy, toufik zerara, Kenny deuchar, Mehdi Khalis, Jason Marr, Ross Perry, Rhys Bennett, Jordan white, David weatherstin, Willie Gibson, Iain Flannigan, Andy Haworth, Sean Higgins, Ryan mcgeever, Johnny Flynn, Robbie Nelson, the list goes on of complete dross signed by Pressley. That's 20 for starters. The good ones arent in double figures. With that ratio your never going to get anywhere. Again if we're going to look back then look back at Jeffries or McCall or Hughes not that joker. Just because we're shite now let's not pretend that was some kind of halcion era. Exactly FFS. Billy Lamont got us a 3rd place finish in the old First Division then the next season he took us to 2nd place and promotion. The pitch invasion at Brockville when we drew with East Fife to seal 2nd place is one of my great childhood memories. Now I’m not saying Lamont was a great manager but he very rarely gets mentioned on here but some posters are creaming over Pressley !! And yes I know I am showing my age !! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MS RR said: You really are clueless. Not only have you mentioned Andy Haworth twice, at least half of those players are miles better than what we've got. Those players got us to 3rd in the championship, that's a dream for us now. Andy Haworth was that bad he deserves to get mentioned twice. Unveiled as a star signing by Pressley and only started 7 games before heading back south They were still shite. Why are we comparing just now to a period when we still weren't good enough FFS. Pressley was shit. Hartley was even shitter and McKinnon was even shitter than both of them. I don't care if Sean Higgins was slightly less shit than David weatherston it was part of a long period of time where our recruitment has been awful. It started with Hughes's last season in charge and has only gone in one direction and Pressley was just slightly less culpable as the majority that followed as he managed to sign a handful of decent players amongst the complete dross he brought in. Edited January 16, 2021 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Exactly FFS. Billy Lamont got us a 3rd place finish in the old First Division then the next season he took us to 2nd place and promotion. The pitch invasion at Brockville when we drew with East Fife to seal 2nd place is one of my great childhood memories. Now I’m not saying Lamont was a great manager but he very rarely gets mentioned on here but some posters are creaming over Pressley !! And yes I know I am showing my age !! Folk seem to forget the banners in the south stand and the meeting in the west stand when 400 folk turned up wanting Pressley to feck off but were ignored by Ritchie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 He brought in senior players and the vast majority were shit. Chris Smith, , Enoch showunmi, Colin Healy, toufik zerara, Kenny deuchar, Mehdi Khalis, Jason Marr, Ross Perry, Rhys Bennett, Jordan white, David weatherston, Willie Gibson, Iain Flannigan, Andy Haworth, Sean Higgins, Ryan mcgeever, Johnny Flynn, Robbie Nelson, the list goes on of complete dross signed by Pressley. That's18 for starters. The good ones arent in double figures. With that ratio your never going to get anywhere. Again if we're going to look back then look back at Jeffries or McCall or Hughes not that joker. Just because we're shite now let's not pretend that was some kind of halcion era.Jonny Flynn was decent the season we pushed Dundee and Hamilton all the way 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Back Post Misses said: Jonny Flynn was decent the season we pushed Dundee and Hamilton all the way Flynn was an absolute stand out player when on trial for us. Many thought he'd be the answer to our problems at the time and we apparently pushed the boat out to sign him (ahead of Rhys Weston who was the other trialist he was competing for a contract with). Ended up turning us down to sign for County and it was a bullet missed and Weston was one of our best CH's of the last decade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Back then (and as I posted on here) Pressley was for me, a guy who could pick a player, but a guy who couldn’t build a team to save himself.Not in the least surprised that Maddison sees him as important in his early years. I think that’s where he was very good....helping younger players develop.I can remember Rhys Bennett’s debut for us, and on that day, he certainly didn’t look like a dud. Whether we like it or not, the few and far between quality players we have had in the last 8 to 10 years can pretty much all be traced back to Pressley......but as a manager in the dugout? No thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: Jonny Flynn was decent the season we pushed Dundee and Hamilton all the way He only started 14 games that season . Pressley was away by then anyway. A number of his better signings like leahy and vaulks only got a game once he'd fecked off. To be successful in football you need to appoint a manager who gets the odd signing wrong. We keep appointing managers that get the odd signing right. As long as it's like that we'll.go nowhere fast. Edited January 16, 2021 by Shadwell Dog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestfieldBairn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Shadwell Dog said: He brought in senior players and the vast majority were shit. Chris Smith, , Enoch showunmi, Colin Healy, toufik zerara, Kenny deuchar, Mehdi Khalis, Jason Marr, Ross Perry, Rhys Bennett, Jordan white, David weatherston, Willie Gibson, Iain Flannigan, Andy Haworth, Sean Higgins, Ryan mcgeever, Johnny Flynn, Robbie Nelson, the list goes on of complete dross signed by Pressley. That's18 for starters. The good ones arent in double figures. With that ratio your never going to get anywhere. Again if we're going to look back then look back at Jeffries or McCall or Hughes not that joker. Just because we're shite now let's not pretend that was some kind of halcion era. Two were signed by Eddie May namely Zerara and Enoch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, CC52 FFC said: Two were signed by Eddie May namely Zerara and Enoch. He was the no2 so has to take a share of the blame for some of the shite may signed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, CC52 FFC said: Two were signed by Eddie May namely Zerara and Enoch. Shut up, he's on a roll... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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