Gaz FFC Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, roman_bairn said: Isn’t that what the new guys that have joined the club are trying to do? At what point do you start to get behind them again?… Whenever a new face appears I have words with people who know who they are and ask for a character assassination on them. They get a chance much the same as a new player signing for the club does. If I'm honest I haven't been overly impressed by anyone coming in the door for a long while. Maybe you can point me in the direction of who is impressing you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSG GTF! Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Bantabairn said: For me the club have tried to make the changes we deserve and the continued lambasting of the Club is becoming tiresome and boring. The club has made considerable changes within the directors and for those who still hold grudges it’s time to either back off or choose another club to support. You can get yourself so far to f*ck with that suggestion. I’ll take no lecture from you or anyone else with regards to supporting this Club. Those responsible for over a decade of gross mismanagement shall never be forgiven, not least whilst they remain in power! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioBairn Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, Bantabairn said: Seriously you couldn’t give a f.... who we sold the club too ? Without repeating myself there’s a huge shift change within the directors for change, and yes massive mistakes have been made for a long time and opinions are respected but you may be better suited to following another club....with respect Bantabairn telling everyone with a different opinion to his to go and support another club Gaz makes some great points here and you’ve jumped past them all to the last sentence. If we continue to overlook all the f**k-ups, the f**k-ups will continue to happen... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Whenever a new face appears I have words with people who know who they are and ask for a character assassination on them. They get a chance much the same as a new player signing for the club does. If I'm honest I haven't been overly impressed by anyone coming in the door for a long while. Maybe you can point me in the direction of who is impressing you?I don’t think it’s about individuals, it’s about actions.I wanted a management team that’s got a bond with the club. Got that and whilst it’ll take time, they have moved us forward.Club needed to bring in quality players.....done that, although time will tell if they will be the success we all crave.Club needed to stop bleeding cash. Looks like that’s being delivered.Recognise the mistakes of the recent past. Clearly been acknowledged, although actions will count for more.Bring in someone at the top with an understanding of the clubs faults and act accordingly. So far I’ve been impressed with Gary Deans and his comms.Bring in outside investment and vision to move the club forward. That’s on offer but Thursday’s vote may scupper it unfortunately.Open the club up to fans investment. In the pipeline.For me that amounts to heading in the right direction.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BountyBairn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: Not sure TBH Can’t KJ and DW buy out Lex and the others that want their money out? Eta: in the context of a fans body Edited October 21, 2020 by BountyBairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BountyBairn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 9 hours ago, Bantabairn said: Tbh not to fussed with those who still hold grievances against whoever, every supporter has their own views on the current situation and I respect all. The appointment of GD and the new directors are the new Falkirk albeit with huge challenges to follow if the proposed Rawlins investment is accepted. Failure to back and have Rawlins on board for me will lead to the demise of our club, no doubt we will soon find out..... There’s a huge challenge underway anyway, the new board are ultimately still at the whim of the MSG. The bit that sticks for me is the chat that some shareholders are willing to scupper additional investment to get their shares sold which are probably worth f**k all anyway. Don’t put money into shares in s football club expecting either (a) a return via dividends or (b) your money back. The sensible thing for these guys to do here would be to protect their investment by allowing the Rawlins money to come in then sell something that has at least potential upside for the new folk coming in, leaving our club in a better state. It’s clear to me, sell to messrs Gow and Co and it’s lights off imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Will we find out the result of the vote today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 The deadline for votes is 7pm today and the AGM is tomorrow night which is when I imagine we will see a final result. Will we find out the result of the vote today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 15 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said: He's an employee of the club so I presume we need to watch what we're doing when it comes to chasing him. @keithgy start your engine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Falkirk Stadium / Who owns what ? Phoned the Falkirk Community Stadium Ltd and asked the obvious 'Who owns what' Community Stadium owns the internals of the Main stand above 1st floor. Offices, meeting rooms, hospitality facilities etc. Parking area. FFC own the two wing stands. The seating in the main stand and pitch side forward. Questions regarding who owns what in FFC is a question for them. That correctly is not a question for the community stadium. So there it is folks ! That's that debate put to bed. Very interesting ! Which leads to the question How much are a few offices, meeting rooms and hospitality facility together with a car park on the outskirts of Falkirk worth ? My answer to that - Not a lot ! Edited October 21, 2020 by HopeStreetWalker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: Falkirk Stadium / Who owns what ? Phoned the Falkirk Community Stadium Ltd and asked the obvious 'Who owns what' Community Stadium owns the the the internals of the Main stand above 1st floor. Offices, meeting rooms, hospitality facilities etc. Parking area. FFC own the two wing stands. The seating in the main stand and pitch side forward. Questions regarding who owns what in FFC is a question for them. That correctly is not a question for the community stadium. So there it is folks ! That's that debate put to bed. Very interesting ! Which leads to the question How much are a few offices, meeting rooms and hospitality facility together with a car park on the outskirts of Falkirk worth ? My answer to that - Not a lot ! So the club also own the ground story with the changing rooms aswell. This is always what I believed to be the case, the monoblock car park and the internal of the main stand out with the ground floor belong to the council. The pitch, main stand seats, north stand and ground floor belong to the club with SA owning the south stand. The club also own the land where any future developments of an east stand would be. Edited October 21, 2020 by LatapyBairn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudtobeabairn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Is there concrete proof that the Gow/Lang/Miller etc consortium is an actual thing? So far all communication around the AGM is about approving the share issue to allow the Rawlins investment. Who/where has the Gow etc rumour started from and if true, why isn't anyone able to share details? (Presumably they would be seeking to ratify it tomorrow night?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Proudtobeabairn said: Is there concrete proof that the Gow/Lang/Miller etc consortium is an actual thing? So far all communication around the AGM is about approving the share issue to allow the Rawlins investment. Who/where has the Gow etc rumour started from and if true, why isn't anyone able to share details? (Presumably they would be seeking to ratify it tomorrow night?) Its probably a rumour, the end of the day no one knows the full extent to what Gows involvement with the club is, i dont even think he would pony up with ML and AT and i fail to see how either of those would take the club forward in any meaningful sort of way at least Gow had his backers and a plan to move forward if he got preferred bidder over MC last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) The Gow / Lang / Thomson group is 100% factual, not a mere rumour. They want to buy shareholding from LM, DM and PH hence the reason why Miller and McIntyre have broken from the MSG to vote against the share issue and Rawlins investment. Edited October 21, 2020 by LatapyBairn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, LatapyBairn. said: So the club also own the ground story with the changing rooms aswell. This is always what I believed to be the case, the monoblock car park and the internal of the main stand out with the ground floor belong to the council. The pitch, main stand seats, north stand and ground floor belong to the club with SA owning the south stand. The club also own the land where any future developments of an east stand would be. That's how I take it. The arrangement with SA and the South Stand is a business issue between SA and FFC. Most likely FFC deal with the Stadium Company on SA behalf for issues with South Stand - makes sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, HopeStreetWalker said: Falkirk Stadium / Who owns what ? Phoned the Falkirk Community Stadium Ltd and asked the obvious 'Who owns what' Community Stadium owns the the the internals of the Main stand above 1st floor. Offices, meeting rooms, hospitality facilities etc. Parking area. FFC own the two wing stands. The seating in the main stand and pitch side forward. Questions regarding who owns what in FFC is a question for them. That correctly is not a question for the community stadium. So there it is folks ! That's that debate put to bed. Very interesting ! Which leads to the question How much are a few offices, meeting rooms and hospitality facility together with a car park on the outskirts of Falkirk worth ? My answer to that - Not a lot ! I'd charge them every time they step foot in the first floor. See how they get to the other floors then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BountyBairn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, HopeStreetWalker said: Falkirk Stadium / Who owns what ? Phoned the Falkirk Community Stadium Ltd and asked the obvious 'Who owns what' Community Stadium owns the internals of the Main stand above 1st floor. Offices, meeting rooms, hospitality facilities etc. Parking area. FFC own the two wing stands. The seating in the main stand and pitch side forward. Questions regarding who owns what in FFC is a question for them. That correctly is not a question for the community stadium. So there it is folks ! That's that debate put to bed. Very interesting ! Which leads to the question How much are a few offices, meeting rooms and hospitality facility together with a car park on the outskirts of Falkirk worth ? My answer to that - Not a lot ! People only wanted to debate this cause it suited them. I’ve provided the details around this a few times tbh. it’s all very easy to find out especially now that you can check the land register online. The FFC ownership for the ‘wing stands’ is for North Stand only. South Stand is rented by club from Sandy Alexander so technically not owned at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, BountyBairn said: People only wanted to debate this cause it suited them. I’ve provided the details around this a few times tbh. it’s all very easy to find out especially now that you can check the land register online. The FFC ownership for the ‘wing stands’ is for North Stand only. South Stand is rented by club from Sandy Alexander so technically not owned at all. For what looks like administration purposes the Stadium Company deals with matters relating to the South Stand through FFC who must have an agreement with SA to do so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Shadwell Dog said: I'd charge them every time they step foot in the first floor. See how they get to the other floors then. HaHa that would be good ! They could pay entrance fees to self finance them getting bought out by their own funds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Thing that gets me is they charge for parking for match days yet during the week you can park for free to visit the kelpies of the helix park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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