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3 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Once the HMRC portal is up and running (during April, I think) we’ll receive 80% of the furloughed staff normal wages.

We are, of course, entitled to reduce the pay of staff to the 80% which would mean we would reclaim 100% of wage costs.

Not sure how that would apply to player contracts?

The club could also get some bank finance to tide it over at 0% interest for 6months.

Not sure if any of the grants will apply. Rather think not.

Surely if their pay is reduced to 80% the government would only pay 80% of that? 

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1 hour ago, ShaggerG said:

Surely if their pay is reduced to 80% the government would only pay 80% of that? 

No, if an employer pays 80% of the normal wage they get that refunded.

If they pay 100%, they get 80% of that refunded.

It is up to the employer to decide as to whether they wish to pay the 20%

topup.

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No, if an employer pays 80% of the normal wage they get that refunded.
If they pay 100%, they get 80% of that refunded.
It is up to the employer to decide as to whether they wish to pay the 20%
topup.


It is more like if the company can afford to pay it. Most business are seeing a 70% reduction in volumes. Not only will that be hitting the invoice line but cash coming in is drying up.

This is going to be economic meltdown unless Government and Banks start acting as one. I can tell you first hand they ain’t.
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20 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:

 


It is more like if the company can afford to pay it. Most business are seeing a 70% reduction in volumes. Not only will that be hitting the invoice line but cash coming in is drying up.

This is going to be economic meltdown unless Government and Banks start acting as one. I can tell you first hand they ain’t.

 

You are correct.

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7 hours ago, Bantabairn said:

The divide in Scottish Football :

 

Football in Scotland has been suspended since 13 March.

Payments due to be paid in April have begun to appear in the bank accounts of each of the clubs, many of which are suffering financial difficulty.

The top three in the Premiership - Celtic, Rangers and Motherwell - will receive £395,000 plus VAT.

The rest of the top flight clubs will get £157,500 plus VAT.

The payments dip significantly down the divisions. Championship clubs are due to be paid £26,500 plus VAT, League One clubs £2,700 plus VAT and League Two clubs £1,350 plus VAT.

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Fucking hell

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We should tell them where to ram their shitty payment. Absolutely fucking scandalous allocation.
Isn't it just an early prize money payment? Can't say for sure where you'd finish so you get the minimum amount based on finishing 10th and you'll get the rest if/when the season finishes. They cant exactly give out money they don't have.
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Isn't it just an early prize money payment? Can't say for sure where you'd finish so you get the minimum amount based on finishing 10th and you'll get the rest if/when the season finishes. They cant exactly give out money they don't have.

So are Celtic and Rangers getting the minimum payment of 395k than?
And why aren’t the other clubs in the Premiership, except token diddy club Motherwell, also getting 395k?…
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2 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:
3 hours ago, PG.Colossus said:
We should tell them where to ram their shitty payment. Absolutely fucking scandalous allocation.

Isn't it just an early prize money payment? Can't say for sure where you'd finish so you get the minimum amount based on finishing 10th and you'll get the rest if/when the season finishes. They cant exactly give out money they don't have.

Nope, I just posted an analysis of the payment allocation, and it’s pretty bad:

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php?/topic/264446-spfl-payment-math/

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I see in the papers this morning clubs are looking to furlough players. The strict rules mean to furlough them they can’t work. They can’t exercise outside more than once per day. How can a professional athlete “not work”?

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Isn't it just an early prize money payment? Can't say for sure where you'd finish so you get the minimum amount based on finishing 10th and you'll get the rest if/when the season finishes. They cant exactly give out money they don't have.
Sure I read somewhere it's a payment that was due at the end of April
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3 hours ago, Back Post Misses said:

I see in the papers this morning clubs are looking to furlough players. The strict rules mean to furlough them they can’t work. They can’t exercise outside more than once per day. How can a professional athlete “not work”?

Its a step into the unknown. Players out of contract. Getting match ready and that is more than fitness its getting the touch back and being game savvy. Playing surface and stadium made ready. Clubs on the brink will have no choice but to let players out of contract go. They may have wanted to offer them a new contract but that won't be an option. Anybody any idea who we will be left with come the 1st of June ?

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3 hours ago, Back Post Misses said:

I see in the papers this morning clubs are looking to furlough players. The strict rules mean to furlough them they can’t work. They can’t exercise outside more than once per day. How can a professional athlete “not work”?

Majority of them appear to have spin bikes in their houses, I’m guessing from the gym in the stadium.

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1 hour ago, Bantabairn said:
   On 22/03/2020 at 10:45,  Bantabairnsaid: 

Without dwelling on what’s going to be happen with the season end and this horrendous virus, can anyone accurately confirm who is still  in contract after 31st May, ( or thereabouts) thanks 

Since the Bairns are busy arguing about Houston, from a discussion earlier, plus some changes:

Mutch, Buchanan, Durnan, Dixon,  Doyle,  Gomis,  Telfer,  Todd, Laverty,  Connolly.

Should be pretty close, and all but Mutch as signed through 2021, Mutch is through 2022.

Plus Leitch and maybe Sammon.

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1 hour ago, Bantabairn said:

Don’t fool ourselves here, the only real obstacle is how they are going to appease Rangers on handing the title to Celtic, anything else is insignificant. Easy way out, hand titles to Celtic Dundee Utd Raith Cove, and award a cash payment.

No relegation or promotion for this season, but new season will see two auto relegation/promotion places and play offs scrapped. SFA & SPFL  keep Hearts in top division, and SFA chief Maxwell keeps his beloved ( Partick ) from relegation - simples 

Your observation is pretty on point. Perhaps steal about half Celtic’s winners money, and about a quarter of Rangers and the other teams, pool all that and divide by 42. Celtic can stand the hit, Rangers are pissed, but since Celtic lost more will live with it. The other 30 teams get a little lifeline. Bigots will happily vote against their interests as long as someone else gets it worse than them.

The two autos next year might be a way, but would have to include a third playoff spot as well.

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