JB22 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 You only have to look as far as Mr McKinnon's LinkedIn page to understand what he regards as success.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Scottish fitba managers with LinkedIn profiles is pretty much the best thing of all time tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, JB22 said: You only have to look as far as Mr McKinnon's LinkedIn page to understand what he regards as success.... ......and there it is for all to see. He sees success in terms of unbeaten runs. Seriously, if this guy managed a side that drew all 36 league games, and got relegated with 36 points, he would consider that as a success. Somebody needs to explain to him that losing W12 D1 L23 is better than his “unbeaten runs” patter. As someone mentioned above, he is not a winner, and he does not seem to demand that his teams are winners either. We are going to Airdrie for a point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Gary Locke's is brilliant - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/gary-locke-47a7443a Edit - Scroll down and read the Hearts 13-14 season bit. Looks like he thinks goals scored are better than points won (see the ICT mention). Edited August 26, 2019 by TheScarf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 “Would have finished above Hibs in 2013/14 despite a transfer embargo if not for the 15 point deduction” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 "I am a technically-minded and commercially-astute Football Manager who has established an exceptional success record in the Scottish game, leading the likes of Brechin City, Raith Rovers and Dundee United to considerable domestic and cup achievements in their respective leagues" You guys are lucky to have yer man Ray. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsie Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Taking credit for Lavery’s call up for f**k’s sake. I assume that’s not genuine? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60`s bairn Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hughsie said: Taking credit for Lavery’s call up for f**k’s sake. I assume that’s not genuine? I`m beginning to think he`d get on very well with MC, a couple of fantasists together. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB22 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Hughsie said: Taking credit for Lavery’s call up for f**k’s sake. I assume that’s not genuine? https://uk.linkedin.com/in/ray-mckinnon-017787154 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I see Ray narrowly missed out on SPL football with Utd.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerthewitness Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Ray Mintkinnon, boys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 This linkedin patter is going to grow arms and legs.....Then Ray is going to sign it and play it as a holding midfielder in a historic League 1 unbeaten run 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 The big issue yesterday (and what I suspect will be the case this season) is a severe lack of width.Doyle seems like a character and a decent defender, but relying solely on him and Dixon (my god) to provide your crosses/attacks isn’t going to win you the league.Most teams will sit in, keep the middle of the pitch compact which will make it difficult for Tidser and Telfer to play balls through the middle. High floated crosses from 30 yards out by Dixon are not only terrible but it doesn’t suit the strikers we have either.A reality check for those who’d thought we would win the league at a canter, can see many away games being like that this season. It’s up to us to pass it quicker, use the full width of the park, and provide proper chances for our strikers.Mikey Doyle is real 100% guy with a great attitude BUT his ability doesn’t really match his enthusiasm and when he plays RB he bombs forward at every opportunity but is the last person you want delivering the vital cross. Most QOS fans were disappointed to lose him but for me he is better at centre back where he has a defensive job to do with no attacking distractions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Mikey Doyle is real 100% guy with a great attitude BUT his ability doesn’t really match his enthusiasm and when he plays RB he bombs forward at every opportunity but is the last person you want delivering the vital cross. Most QOS fans were disappointed to lose him but for me he is better at centre back where he has a defensive job to do with no attacking distractions.Second last.He’s like David Beckham compared to Paul Dixon’s float it to the ‘keeper pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainrod Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Looking at the fixture list, I’d pick September 22, after a woeful performance at Stair Park, for the parting of the ways..So what are we going to do . It’s pretty obvious the current board can’t pick a manager or they don’t create the right environment for him to work in ! Are you seriously suggesting we pay Ray off and let them choose another failure ! The model is broke I’m afraid ! I suspect we will have to accept another year in this league to finally force them out . Ray or Ray Mark 2 won’t make much difference IMO! Hartley is proving that given some latitude he can build a winning mentality - but it only works if it’s his gig completely. Now I didn’t like Hartley but I witnessed how he and his family were treated and I can tell you I knew right then he would not be motivated to do a job for us! I feel Ray is probably getting a bit of the same ! Managers are like players and they need to be valued ! Who from the board or MSG is going to show they really care that they live and breathe success for the club - Nobody I’m afraid and the managers pick up on it and their enthusiasm is dulled and this is in turn picked up on by the players. On Saturday Clyde were pretty shite but they had a togetherness a spirit that we don’t have and won’t have unless we have change (Not MC ) They can’t even pick a successor they’re so far up their arse ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champions Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stainrod said: So what are we going to do . It’s pretty obvious the current board can’t pick a manager or they don’t create the right environment for him to work in ! Are you seriously suggesting we pay Ray off and let them choose another failure ! The model is broke I’m afraid ! I suspect we will have to accept another year in this league to finally force them out . Ray or Ray Mark 2 won’t make much difference IMO! Hartley is proving that given some latitude he can build a winning mentality - but it only works if it’s his gig completely. Now I didn’t like Hartley but I witnessed how he and his family were treated and I can tell you I knew right then he would not be motivated to do a job for us! I feel Ray is probably getting a bit of the same ! Managers are like players and they need to be valued ! Who from the board or MSG is going to show they really care that they live and breathe success for the club - Nobody I’m afraid and the managers pick up on it and their enthusiasm is dulled and this is in turn picked up on by the players. On Saturday Clyde were pretty shite but they had a togetherness a spirit that we don’t have and won’t have unless we have change (Not MC ) They can’t even pick a successor they’re so far up their arse ! The way Hartley was treated? He was a total c**t of a man. I cant believe you're defending that cretin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Hartley got it seriously wrong when he built a squad of substandard players. Nothing to do with mentality and everything to do with total incompetence..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Stainrod said: So what are we going to do . Well, as a Rovers fan, I hope nothing. As a football fan, you have to decide if Ray’s win at home, tie on the road plan is acceptable to Falkirk and it’s fans. Even executed perfectly, it’s “only” good for 72 points...which wins League 1 most years, but not all. Reality is you’ll never win 18 at home and tie 18 on the road...so where does that leave you? Maybe beat the bottom 3 once and tie once at their place...adds 6 points (78)...pair of ties at the middle 3...even on points (78)...lose one and tie one to the top 3 on the road...minus 3 (75). So now you can have perhaps one loss or three ties at home if you want to win the League. Reality is 4 or 5 home loses or ties likely...minus 8 to 15 (60-67). That’s likely playoff territory, and as we proved recently, no sure thing. I’m afraid your board will finally decide to dump Ray, the question is will it be in time to save your season. Edited August 27, 2019 by TxRover Adding a missing period...stupid phones. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Bairn Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 We should hear tomorrow or the next about the buy out. I think MC is probably a bad idea but then again the status quo is a bad idea too. Squeaky bum time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast_Action Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Stainrod said: So what are we going to do . It’s pretty obvious the current board can’t pick a manager or they don’t create the right environment for him to work in ! Are you seriously suggesting we pay Ray off and let them choose another failure ! The model is broke I’m afraid ! I suspect we will have to accept another year in this league to finally force them out . Ray or Ray Mark 2 won’t make much difference IMO! Hartley is proving that given some latitude he can build a winning mentality - but it only works if it’s his gig completely. Now I didn’t like Hartley but I witnessed how he and his family were treated and I can tell you I knew right then he would not be motivated to do a job for us! I feel Ray is probably getting a bit of the same ! Managers are like players and they need to be valued ! Who from the board or MSG is going to show they really care that they live and breathe success for the club - Nobody I’m afraid and the managers pick up on it and their enthusiasm is dulled and this is in turn picked up on by the players. On Saturday Clyde were pretty shite but they had a togetherness a spirit that we don’t have and won’t have unless we have change (Not MC ) They can’t even pick a successor they’re so far up their arse ! Were you at the game sir? Did you witness our no6, Ray Grant dictate all of the play in the midfield? We were far from what you describe. Were any team sh1te, it would have been the one with no width, relying on hopeless LB and RBs to provide the width that you lacked in midfield, and do that hopelessly. Clyde were not the rubbish that you suggest. We were way better than you were on the day. I get it that you are a sore loser. But don't put us down for our good performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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