Guest Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Would wager that Arbroath will bring more than you would to the deech next season. Resigned to staying down then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEFarab Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, flood said: when did Killie take 25 to Queens in cup? You were talking about Dundee so I was talking about Dundee also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEFarab Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: Resigned to staying down then? Will play Arbroath in the premiership playoff final a year from now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn Necessities Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I'm totally on board with blaming Fasan for relegation. Worst keeper we've ever had. He'll be remembered in 40 years' time. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Bairn Necessities said: I'm totally on board with blaming Fasan for relegation. Worst keeper we've ever had. He'll be remembered in 40 years' time. I can see CC ML the MSG and McKinnon having a wee whip round for you. A kaching post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said: I can see CC ML the MSG and McKinnon having a wee whip round for you. A kaching post. Do you believe McKinnon is a bigger factor in relegation than Leo Fasan? -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) A player is symptomatic, not root cause. You would also have to factor in every chance missed by any outfield player. Unless there is an algorithm to cover every error by every player, it’s ultimately meaningless. What if Jordan McGhee hadn’t switched off and allowed Oakley to stroll past him and score in the first game of the season? I don’t think you can say he is any more culpable than say Harrison or Dallison.....they all made mistakes, and lots of them. Ultimately the biggest factors lie further up the food chain. Edited April 24, 2019 by Duncan Freemason 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said: A player is symptomatic, not root cause. You would also have to factor in every chance missed by any outfield player. Unless there is an algorithm to cover every error by every player, it’s ultimately meaningless. What if Jordan McGhee hadn’t switched off and allowed Oakley to stroll past him and score in the first game of the season? I don’t think you can say he is any more culpable than say Harrison or Dallison.....they all made mistakes, and lots of them. Ultimately the biggest factors lie further up the food chain. It is indeed a collective blame shaming issue, very few escape either on the park or off the park Burgoyne and Rudden(Dixon wouldve been in there but he has fell off a cliff recently, perhaps having players in the centre that are worse than him there the issue) escape blame, the rest can have the finger pointed at varying points of the season, off the park no one escapes blame with both managers and the board. Fasan still is the worst keeper I have seen at Falkirk since the demise of Allan Ferguson, Tho Allan had years of wonderful form before he was done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On another note at least when we do get relegated thats the sales pitch for the beach towels sorted, Ready for the new season we are: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, MrDust said: It is indeed a collective blame shaming issue, very few escape either on the park or off the park Burgoyne and Rudden(Dixon wouldve been in there but he has fell off a cliff recently, perhaps having players in the centre that are worse than him there the issue) escape blame, the rest can have the finger pointed at varying points of the season, off the park no one escapes blame with both managers and the board. Fasan still is the worst keeper I have seen at Falkirk since the demise of Allan Ferguson, Tho Allan had years of wonderful form before he was done I would say Fasan single handedly gave away a good few of the points until Mitchell and then Burgoyne came in dont get me wrong most keepers have some howlers but Fasan is right up there with worst of them, if i was to single anyone out for our relegation it would be Hartley for signing a bunch of duds normally there are a few gems in amongst some shite but to sign 17 shite players is a big ask for anyone. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Everyone is to blame. The clowns running the club, Hartley, the shite Hartley signed, McKinnon, the shite McKinnon signed. The only plus for me is how well the fans have backed the club this season, beggars belief some of the away crowds we have had with what has been served up. Doesn't matter what league we are in we need a complete clearout. A good manager could easily sign a totally new team at our level and do well, just need to find that manager! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 4 hours ago, NEFarab said: You were talking about Dundee so I was talking about Dundee also. I was being sarcastic and having pop at them at same time. hence the doondee mention... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 Dundee United 15 9 3 3 18:11 7 30 2 Ross County 15 9 2 4 22:16 6 29 3 Partick Thistle 15 7 5 3 22:18 4 26 4 Falkirk FC 15 5 7 3 18:14 4 22 5 Inverness Cal. 15 6 3 6 17:17 0 21 6 Alloa Athletic 15 6 1 8 18:23 -5 19 7 Dunfermline A. 15 5 3 7 13:13 0 18 8 Morton 15 3 6 6 12:17 -5 15 9 Queen o. t. S. 15 4 2 9 14:19 -5 14 10 Ayr United 15 4 2 9 11:17 -6 14 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Above is the league table since the start of January, it is actually better than I thought it would have been. Maybe pre January was just too hard to come back from after all! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEFarab Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: 1 Dundee United 15 9 3 3 18:11 7 30 2 Ross County 15 9 2 4 22:16 6 29 3 Partick Thistle 15 7 5 3 22:18 4 26 4 Falkirk FC 15 5 7 3 18:14 4 22 5 Inverness Cal. 15 6 3 6 17:17 0 21 6 Alloa Athletic 15 6 1 8 18:23 -5 19 7 Dunfermline A. 15 5 3 7 13:13 0 18 8 Morton 15 3 6 6 12:17 -5 15 9 Queen o. t. S. 15 4 2 9 14:19 -5 14 10 Ayr United 15 4 2 9 11:17 -6 14 Would like to see a table from since the window shut. Think it’d make even better reading for us than it already does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereismillar Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: On another note at least when we do get relegated thats the sales pitch for the beach towels sorted, Ready for the new season we are: FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 hours ago, HopeStreetPieStall said: Can you not just enjoy your now traditional playoff failure and give us a bit of piece? Concentrating on going down in style over here, y'know. Having a pop at any other team for failing in the play-offs is a bold move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: On another note at least when we do get relegated thats the sales pitch for the beach towels sorted, Ready for the new season we are: We need magic carpets noo 4 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: Above is the league table since the start of January, it is actually better than I thought it would have been. Maybe pre January was just too hard to come back from after all! 5 wins 7 draws 3 out the 5 wins we deserved and a lot of those draws we didnt deserve a draw. Its a shitfest of standard this season, the budget we have had, if a manager had an ounce of savvy about him , we wouldnt be anywhere near where we are 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ecosse83 said: 1 Dundee United 15 9 3 3 18:11 7 30 2 Ross County 15 9 2 4 22:16 6 29 3 Partick Thistle 15 7 5 3 22:18 4 26 4 Falkirk FC 15 5 7 3 18:14 4 22 5 Inverness Cal. 15 6 3 6 17:17 0 21 6 Alloa Athletic 15 6 1 8 18:23 -5 19 7 Dunfermline A. 15 5 3 7 13:13 0 18 8 Morton 15 3 6 6 12:17 -5 15 9 Queen o. t. S. 15 4 2 9 14:19 -5 14 10 Ayr United 15 4 2 9 11:17 -6 14 All that highlights to me is how crap some others have been, and we've blown it. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, MrDust said: 5 wins 7 draws 3 out the 5 wins we deserved and a lot of those draws we didnt deserve a draw. Its a shitfest of standard this season, the budget we have had, if a manager had an ounce of savvy about him , we wouldnt be anywhere near where we are I know it's still not great but I am surprised we are 4th in the table since the turn of the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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