Believe The Hype Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 At 6ft 2' do we really need another big target man when we have mackin? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan1985 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 without seeing how he plays, 11 goals in 38 appearances for Dundee in the Premiership is a decent record. Up against Championship defenders and play to his strengths, you would assume he could get 15 -20 goals...plus it was Hartley who signed him at Dundee so knows his strengths and weaknesses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Bairn Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 At 6ft 2' do we really need another big target man when we have mackin? I don’t think Mackins ready tbh, he’ll not do as good a job as Haber in this league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan1985 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Believe The Hype said: At 6ft 2' do we really need another big target man when we have mackin? According to Dundee fans, he is quite mobile "when he wants to be"...something mackin isnt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 According to Dundee fans, he is quite mobile "when he wants to be"...something mackin isnt I just watched a YouTube video and he does seem mobile. He looks tall and lean whereas Mackin is stalky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan1985 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 you know with Mackin only being 21...he could be seen as the backup/one for the future to a guy like Haber...its alot of pressure on a 21 year old to lead the line. just watched probably the same video...he does look decent, hope his injury didnt set him back too much 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Another internationalist. Go on the Don. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Senor Bairn said: I don’t think Mackins ready tbh, he’ll not do as good a job as Haber in this league. Aye don't get me wrong, I would rather have haber than mackin, but we already have him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 you know with Mackin only being 21...he could be seen as the backup/one for the future to a guy like Haber...its alot of pressure on a 21 year old to lead the line. just watched probably the same video...he does look decent, hope his injury didnt set him back too much It also gives you the option of playing Haber and Mackin together if your needing to bully defenses. I said the other day that Nelson and Mackin together would hassle defenses and the same applies here. If the Haber deal is true then I think that spells the end of the Nelson rumour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Haber would be an excellent signing for this league. Again though why did we sign Mackin? Lewis, turner, o'hara, haber to me would have been more than enough this season. Cash used to buy Mackin could have been used in other areas surely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Is Mackin number 21? He looked absolutely useless on Tuesday night, any experienced defender will control him fairly easily really. Haber a much better player, but he'll he'll only play well when he's scoring, shell balls up the channels and he'll just stand and stare. He's not even close to being someone who'll bother in training either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 The term oh ffs is apt in regards to this twiiter comment: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestfieldBairn Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Said from the day he signed Mackin doesn’t look like a player. Fair enough he has time on his side but he just looks like he would be suited in the juniors or league two. Haber, Lewis and Nelson would be a dream. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I think a lot of Dundee fans have rewritten history about Haber tbh. He's been one of the most effective forwards I've seen Dundee have in my lifetime and I don't actually think he's had many bad performances (although since he's not been playing, people seem to remember him as this atrocious unfit forward which is far from the truth). Going into the 16/17 season, Hartley massively fucked up his recruitment and couldn't come close to replacing the huge talents in Hemmings, Stewart and even Harkins. As a result, we were pretty hopeless in all departments and things really looked quite dire. Haber was signed as a late emergency and there weren't really any high hopes for a guy who couldn't seem to win a deal anywhere. The impact he had was transformational and suddenly, we were able to just boot the ball to him and take a massive burden off the defence - despite joining in the last week of October, he won more headers in the air than any other forward in the league and was effective in almost every game he played in. The one match he missed that season was a 7-0 home defeat to Aberdeen and make no mistake about it, he was a noticeable major loss on that game and you could really see the difference a player like him could even make on the defensive side of the game and how his hold up play was papering over cracks. His style of play appears pretty lackadaisical and this is something which McCann doesn't really like as a manager as he wants the whole team pressing from the front. He had a little go at him in the press (which he does a fair bit at certain players) and he come back and put in an outstanding performance and was actually very good during the first few games and impressed particularly in a Derby win. During the first few weeks, he took a pretty bad knee injury and his season was then stop and start with him coming to our aid a few times (with great performances at Hibs and St Johnstone when he come in from injury) but then was just not right at all when he made cameos after the new year (and it didn't help as well that we were playing like shitebags around him). He's got his injury record which is pretty appalling wherever he's been but I do think our manager is potentially making a big mistake letting a tool as effective as he is walk out the door. I see that there's a bit of scepticism due to already having Mackin (who I haven't seen play) but what I would say is that you are signing a player who provides you perhaps the most aerial presence of any player in the country and generally a brilliant target man. Even a broken Haber who couldn't give a f**k and is 20% fit is better than a lot of players who have made careers as target men in the top two leagues. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Was the stat not that Haber won more headers than any top flight centre halves? @Ludo*1 loves mentioning it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 If/when Haber signs I am quite pleased with this. He also produces his own Hip Hop music so can see some good ‘Cheesy Quaver with Marky Haber’ themed nights at The Clubhouse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkirkfan1985 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: The term oh ffs is apt in regards to this twiiter comment: He is either got issues or he is a troll...looking at who he is following, doesnt appear to be any family members an following a few random people...probably a fifer having a laugh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, CC52 FFC said: Said from the day he signed Mackin doesn’t look like a player. Fair enough he has time on his side but he just looks like he would be suited in the juniors or league two. Haber, Lewis and Nelson would be a dream. Did Mackin not only sign up for one year too? Not exactly one for the future and why pay cash for someone and then give them a one year deal. Strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 3 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: I'm a bit worried that Beaker is going to impact upon our overall #sexy 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, gav-ffc said: Marcus Haber then... Just watched Haber on Youtube, an awkward big unit with a crap goal celebration - fortunately / unfortunately I don't think that we will see it much more than 8 - 10 times a season. A downgrade on what Nelson was towards the end of his time with us. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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