Broccoli Dog Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 That's the problem in my constituency, though the fptp majority in 2007 was only 1000 between Lab and the Nats so who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 You're in a Labour safe seat? If you want to keep them out then I wouldn't recommend that. The SNP will have a lot of votes but probably won't win a huge amount of seats on the 1st vote, so they need all the votes they can get in the 2nd Vote to catch up. It's weird that despite having two votes if you actually want your vote to count in a Labour seat, you probably have to vote SNP twice, or at least definitely in the 2nd vote. Hmm, it's crap. Was toying with using 2nd vote for Tories to get annabel in again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 You're in a Labour safe seat? If you want to keep them out then I wouldn't recommend that. The SNP will have a lot of votes but probably won't win a huge amount of seats on the 1st vote, so they need all the votes they can get in the 2nd Vote to catch up. It's weird that despite having two votes if you actually want your vote to count in a Labour seat, you probably have to vote SNP twice, or at least definitely in the 2nd vote. AMS is a curious creature. Owing to the proportion of constituency to list seats; the way the results of the former impact the allocation in the latter; the tendency for one party to win a lot of the former and for smaller parties to stand in the latter; the regional vote really shouldn't, in almost all circumstances, be regarded as a second preference. I'm a little surprised, on reflection, that we didn't go for some form of AV+ instead of AMS. It would have made the constituencies a lot more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Annabel can count on the Bridge of Weir/ Kilmacolm vote, she'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 You're in a Labour safe seat? If you want to keep them out then I wouldn't recommend that. The SNP will have a lot of votes but probably won't win a huge amount of seats on the 1st vote, so they need all the votes they can get in the 2nd Vote to catch up. It's weird that despite having two votes if you actually want your vote to count in a Labour seat, you probably have to vote SNP twice, or at least definitely in the 2nd vote. Edit: it is absolutely no coincidence that the SNP seats rose last time while the small parties were squeezed. So long as Labour hoover up dozens of Central Belt constituencies then every one else is fighting for that 2nd vote there. It's not as safe a seat in the Scottish elections as it is in the Westminster elections. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2007/scottish_parliment/html/350.stm I don't particularly like it when the wee parties get squeezed. I liked the 'rainbow' parliaments before 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Yeah I liked the variation too, but while Labour continue to turn out the swampies I won't be helping them gain power. Are the Nine Percent Growth Party standing again? I think they turned out to be neo-fascists or something but you can't fault them for ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 You're in a Labour safe seat? If you want to keep them out then I wouldn't recommend that. The SNP will have a lot of votes but probably won't win a huge amount of seats on the 1st vote, so they need all the votes they can get in the 2nd Vote to catch up. It's weird that despite having two votes if you actually want your vote to count in a Labour seat, you probably have to vote SNP twice, or at least definitely in the 2nd vote. Edit: it is absolutely no coincidence that the SNP seats rose last time while the small parties were squeezed. So long as Labour hoover up dozens of Central Belt constituencies then every one else is fighting for that 2nd vote there. Agreed. If you want the SNP in you really need to vote SNP with both votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Agreed. If you want the SNP in you really need to vote SNP with both votes. a win for brevity (and sarcasm) over verbosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 New poll gives SNP 11% and 10% lead in both votes according to Newsnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 finally got round to watching the BNP broadcast... jaw dropping, i have no words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Really weird discussion between Brewer and Salmond, all he's asking about is post-election manoeuvring really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Really weird discussion between Brewer and Salmond, all he's asking about is post-election manoeuvring really. Absolutely strolled through that. Miles ahead of just about any other politician involved in this election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 UKIP PEB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 finally got round to watching the BNP broadcast... jaw dropping, i have no words. it's nothing compared to the ssp broadcast. has no one else seen it? it's one long head shot of a perplexed looking riot cop taking of his helmet while some weegie boot moans about dave cameron lighting cigars with 50 pound notes. a truly shocking piece of film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law Stud Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 That site was actually quite accurate in predicting my current voting preferences. SNP 29% Green 22% Lib Dem 15% Labour 2% Tory - 8% I'm currently thinking of voting SNP with my consituency vote and Green for my list vote. Surprised at mine Conservative: 57% Labour 8% Lib Dems: -6% SNP: -18% Greens: -50% And that was despite me fucking up the answer on NHS prescription charges in SNP's favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Ha apparently I should vote Tory! Conservatives 30% Lib Dems on 18%, Labour on -1%, SNP -4% and Greens -12% Very surprised Tory came top, whilst we agreed on a few things other points were other end of scale. I suspect the SNP scored badly as I thought graduates should pay something towards uni, not everyone should get free prescriptions and the Euro. I think it is a case of looking for the least bad party- not sure that is what the program states! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Mine sound fairly similar to VikingTON's. Like him, I won't be voting for the Greens. Salmond has impressed me as First Minister. 36% Green 31% SNP 28% Lib Dem -4% Labour -24% Conservative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 finally got round to watching the BNP broadcast... jaw dropping, i have no words. UKIP PEB Are these on the web? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Are these on the web? You should be able to find them on ipayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 You should be able to find them on ipayer. Cheers mate. Aww, most of them say "Coming soon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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