Tryfield Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The figures you posted are utterly irrelevant because, as I pointed out to you earlier, no election is a referendum on any one issue. Now, you shouldn't really need that spelled out for you on a football website but I suggest you read more carefully next time. You might learn something. Here we go again! A referendum is a one topic vote towards a specific situation, an election is where people take into consideration many many issues. In the Scottish election there will have been people who were promised the world by their prospective candidates in their own area, and they will have given their vote to them. If the figures I posted weren't relevant, wouldn't we be having a re-count or another election? Anyway, the quicker the better for a referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwififer Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 You know, a lot can happen in a few years....... so the figures quoted on both sides are irrelivant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 You know, a lot can happen in a few years....... so the figures quoted on both sides are irrelivant. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Here we go again! A referendum is a one topic vote towards a specific situation, an election is where people take into consideration many many issues. In the Scottish election there will have been people who were promised the world by their prospective candidates in their own area, and they will have given their vote to them. Exactly. Adding up the votes of the parties who support independence against those who don't and saying, Scotland doesn't want independence because unionist parties got more votes doesn't work because there are many, many more issues than independence at play. If the figures I posted weren't relevant, wouldn't we be having a re-count or another election? Anyway, the quicker the better for a referendum. They are not relevant as far as saying how many people support independence and how many are opposed to it are. For example, there must be many people who are undecided. Where do they fit into your figures? Are they the ones, who didn't vote? If so, that's just under half the electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwififer Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Yep. that's voting intentions as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Politics Subforum anyone? Yes. p&b can be the crucible of political discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Another bit of trivia, that I already kind of knew but didn't put together: http://www.newsnetscotland.com/scottish-politics/2413-scottish-economy.html However, few folk seem to have noticed that all three finance spokesmen for the big Unionist parties were also kicked out by the voters on election night. So it’s goodbye to Labour’s Andy Kerr, Tory Derek Brownlee, and the Lib Dems’s Jeremy Purvis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Another bit of trivia, that I already kind of knew but didn't put together: http://www.newsnetsc...sh-economy.html Have a wee dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Another bit of trivia, that I already kind of knew but didn't put together: http://www.newsnetscotland.com/scottish-politics/2413-scottish-economy.html IIRC the reason Derek Brownlee lost his seat was because the Tories (ironically) gained too many constituency seats in the South of Scotland while he was on the list having challenged Iain Gray's constituency seat. Could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Tricia Marwick is the new Presiding Officer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13362676 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tout P'ti FC Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 If you are interested, a very comprehensive analysis of the election results has been published by the Scottish Parliament's Information Centre... http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/research/briefings-11/SB11-29.pdf Loads of stats and graphs - a bit anoraky - worth a read though. One interesting stat, the constituency turnout was highest in the Lothians (55%), and lowest in Glasgow (41%). Quite a startling difference really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Brazil Forever Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Tricia Marwick is the new Presiding Officer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13362676 The Beeb screwed up again. Tricia was born in Cowdenbeath and is an Honorary Blue Brazilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Tricia Marwick is the new Presiding Officer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13362676 That picture makes her looks like the Jolly Roger flag.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Labour business manager Paul Martin, said: "The appointment of the new presiding officer was a big challenge for the new majority government, and it has not got off to a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Labour business manager Paul Martin, said: "The appointment of the new presiding officer was a big challenge for the new majority government, and it has not got off to a good start. Are Labour deliberately trying to wipe themselves out even further? Trounced for fighting a negative campaign and the first thing they do is gnash their teeth and scream 'that's no fair' from the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwififer Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I was in glenriothes visiting a mate and i saw her campaigning a while back., Scary scary woman. I wouldn't take an open pay packet home to her, that's for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyC Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 YES! Another Labour c**t put firmly in their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 You caught me. I'm an idiot. Oh no wait, I'm not the one who thinks the SNP are doing a good job. And, the general public will agree with me when the SNP thrown out in May. Labour will lead a minority government. What are you talking about? I think Labour will win the May election by a small margin and form a minority government. I think it'll have less to do with a detailed analysis of the respective records or policies of the main parties and more to do with large swathes of the Scottish electorate referring to their 'default' position and voting Labour, regardless. Especially with the Tories in power at Westminster. The idea that any part will win a majority of the vote in May is absurd. And any person who actively wants Ian Gray to be the First Minister of Scotland is an idiot. Well, well, well, well, well. Right up ye snotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Are Labour deliberately trying to wipe themselves out even further? Trounced for fighting a negative campaign and the first thing they do is gnash their teeth and scream 'that's no fair' from the sidelines. Well, since they are the opposition, it's a large part of their job description to gnash and scream about government decisions, the sidelines being about the only place they can occupy. And in any case, they may have a point here, I previously posted on why I thought it would be more constructive for all concerned if the presiding officer did not come from the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Well, since they are the opposition, it's a large part of their job description to gnash and scream about government decisions, the sidelines being about the only place they can occupy. And in any case, they may have a point here, I previously posted on why I thought it would be more constructive for all concerned if the presiding officer did not come from the SNP. I hope Labour do it in a positive fashion. The SNP don't like any negativity whatsoever remember. The level of criticism of the Scottish government will have to be good and not like it was in the last parliament. The Labour opposition were quite frankly, shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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