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I think Piers Morgan is good on Good Morning Britain and think that he speaks a lot of sense.



There are unpopular opinions and then there are lies. Nobody believes what you just wrote, not even Piers Morgan himself.

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23 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Very odd how people can be so wound up by a child telling them they have ruined the planet.

I can remember a 16-year old William Hague addressing the 1977 Tory Party conference and the right-wing masturbating itself into a frenzy over how wonderful he was, lauding him for his spirit, humour and conviction.  "The next William Pitt" said a certain M. Thatcher. If Thunberg was telling them what they wanted to hear, conservatives would be promoting her at every opportunity. As it is, the full might of the media machine has been mobilised to denounce her every action and every word. "She's a hypocrite", "She has no solutions", "She's irritating"!  And on, and on, and on.

If only the people responsible for the damage to our planet were held to the same level of accountability as those calling them out on it...

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There are unpopular opinions and then there are lies. Nobody believes what you just wrote, not even Piers Morgan himself.


I am going to give a more detailed reply at some point but am quite busy for the next few days but I assure you I am not trolling on this one and have been enjoying watching his stuff on YouTube whilst bathing in the last few weeks.

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Very odd how people can be so wound up by a child telling them they have ruined the planet.
The whole thing with this lassie has underlined how many people flat-out don't believe climate change is a big deal, or would rather roll the dice than change their lifestyle.

It's also made me wonder if, in the event that a massive rock heading straight at Earth was discovered, how many folk would rather just enjoy the time they have left rather than give up anything to help build the BFG necessary to avert catastrophe.

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In an infinite universe, it is literally impossible that there ISN'T a giant rock hurtling towards us.

Gies a shout when you want to start the BFG. I'll meet you there.

The whole thing with this lassie has underlined how many people flat-out don't believe climate change is a big deal, or would rather roll the dice than change their lifestyle.

It's also made me wonder if, in the event that a massive rock heading straight at Earth was discovered, how many folk would rather just enjoy the time they have left rather than give up anything to help build the BFG necessary to avert catastrophe.

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The whole thing with this lassie has underlined how many people flat-out don't believe climate change is a big deal, or would rather roll the dice than change their lifestyle.

 

It's also made me wonder if, in the event that a massive rock heading straight at Earth was discovered, how many folk would rather just enjoy the time they have left rather than give up anything to help build the BFG necessary to avert catastrophe.

I interpret it a different way. There will of course be done outright deniers (this is where the 'she's being exploited by her parents for money' line will have originated) but I think most people know climate change is real. They thought the nasty effects of it wouldn't manifest for another century and would be someone else's problem.

 

But that's not what has happened and it's going to impinge on the lives of most people's children. So to have reality coming and burning a big "this is your fault" sign in the Australian outback, and then a young girl who is an avatar for all their children saying "yes and we're angry with you" is an unbearable outcome. So unbearable that rather than facing up to it, many people are attacking Thunberg as a reminder of their failure.

 

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The idea that the older generations spend their lives attempting to improve the chances of their children and grandchildren has gone right out the window in recent elections, and fat pizza faced has been journalists like Clarkson and Morgan slagging off a 16 year old Swedish girl for stating the fucking obvious really sums it up.

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I agree with a lot of what everyone has said, there are a lot of people attacking her because they don’t like what she is saying, some might be guilt, some might just not believe it and some maybe just don’t want told what to do by a young girl.

On my part, I absolutely believe in what she says and have been trying to do things to be better environmentally myself. I admire how engaged she has got so many people, especially younger kids.

I feel kind of bad but I just find her annoying though. I think it is her super-aggressive manner, which I would find counter-productive in trying to speak to anyone about any kind of issue. I wonder how many people are turned away from the issue by her manner as are engaged by it?

You don’t have to be a guilt-ridden, perma-raging, right-wing climate-change denying middle-aged bloke to like the message but not the method of delivery.

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I agree with a lot of what everyone has said, there are a lot of people attacking her because they don’t like what she is saying, some might be guilt, some might just not believe it and some maybe just don’t want told what to do by a young girl.

 

On my part, I absolutely believe in what she says and have been trying to do things to be better environmentally myself. I admire how engaged she has got so many people, especially younger kids.

 

I feel kind of bad but I just find her annoying though. I think it is her super-aggressive manner, which I would find counter-productive in trying to speak to anyone about any kind of issue. I wonder how many people are turned away from the issue by her manner as are engaged by it?

 

You don’t have to be a guilt-ridden, perma-raging, right-wing climate-change denying middle-aged bloke to like the message but not the method of delivery.

I suppose, though she's not being angry at you, the punter. She's being angry at your government for not adequately punishing emissions and incentivising sustainability. You can't kill neoliberalism with kindness. If she is energising children who are going to be voters soon then that's probably a powerful message.

 

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You don't have to go deep into tin-foil hat territory to recognise that the people most responsible for the acceleration of climate change also control most governments and the western media. They've geared up their attacks on Thunberg with a ferocious intensity, which should be frightening to anyone who values the free exchange of opinions. Go to any online site where conservatives gather and you'll see them repeating the same insults and buzz-words they've been handed, over and over again.

20 minutes ago, Jambomo said:

I think it is her super-aggressive manner, which I would find counter-productive in trying to speak to anyone about any kind of issue. I wonder how many people are turned away from the issue by her manner as are engaged by it?

Given that perhaps for the first time ever, large numbers of people are talking and more importantly, thinking about the issues she raises, I would say her approach is far more effective than anything that has been done in the past.

I personally think the problem is past the point of no return but...

17 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

She's being angry at your government for not adequately punishing emissions and incentivising sustainability. You can't kill neoliberalism with kindness. If she is energising children who are going to be voters soon then that's probably a powerful message.

...this.

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10 hours ago, Dele said:

I feel sorry for her. She's being used as a pawn and will no doubt suffer greatly in later life due to this. 

 

9 hours ago, Stellaboz said:

By whom?

A pawnbroker!

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26 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Given that perhaps for the first time ever, large numbers of people are talking and more importantly, thinking about the issues she raises, I would say her approach is far more effective than anything that has been done in the past.

I don’t disagree with your first part, as I said already I can see that they are attacking her.

the part I quoted I do disagree with. More people are engaged yes, yet the people that matter now, aren’t really changing anything and so from that perspective, I am not sure that it is that effective.
 

I suspect that listening to her now, is for the governments and corporations, being seen to be doing something. I don’t think it’s her anger that’s getting her a platform, more that it’s a young girl with adult knowledge and opinions and she is being humoured to some extent (which I think is completely wrong and cynical).
 

Can you honestly say that you think she’ll be given a similar platform when she is 21 or 25? She should, because she is worth listening to, but I don’t think she will be because she will no longer be the novel and exceptional child. 

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22 minutes ago, Jambomo said:

Can you honestly say that you think she’ll be given a similar platform when she is 21 or 25? She should, because she is worth listening to, but I don’t think she will be because she will no longer be the novel and exceptional child. 

No, I'm pretty sure by then she'll be firmly in the "Whatever happened to...?" category. The novelty factor is huge here but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

At the very least, she has caused some embarrassment to those who deserve it and hopefully, got a new generation thinking about things they may not otherwise have done. I seriously doubt she would've achieved that had she been meek and polite.

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6 hours ago, MixuFixit said:

Very odd how people can be so wound up by a child telling them they have ruined the planet.

The planet will be fine, besides would it really be that bad if it  got a bit  warmer....

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1 hour ago, Shotgun said:

Go to any online site where conservatives gather and you'll see them repeating the same insults and buzz-words they've been handed, over and over again.

...and right on cue.

2 minutes ago, bennett said:

 would it really be that bad if it  got a bit  warmer....

 

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The planet will be fine, besides would it really be that bad if it  got a bit  warmer....

Over geological time yes, over human (& more specifically my children's) lifespan term, no. If you think global warming just means "like now, but 2 degrees warmer" that betrays a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of what is under threat.

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Greta Thunberg is despised by Donald Trump, Piers Morgan, Jeremy Clarkson and a couple of **** at my work.

 

That says to me that she’s doing something right.

 

On topic - I don’t think IVF should be provided by the NHS.

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