Desert Nomad Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 What a mess of a finish today, a bloody roundabout with 300m to go, farcical stuff. Chris Froome got 2 bonus seconds out on the road, but then missed the split on the run-in to the finish, so now trails Cobo by 22 secs. My bet is Cobo finishes right alongside Froome tomorrow, and that will finish the race as a contest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 What a mess of a finish today, a bloody roundabout with 300m to go, farcical stuff. Chris Froome got 2 bonus seconds out on the road, but then missed the split on the run-in to the finish, so now trails Cobo by 22 secs. My bet is Cobo finishes right alongside Froome tomorrow, and that will finish the race as a contest. When you saw the ariel shot there was a gap in the barrier at the roundabout when it should have been solid. Farcical finish with nobody near Haedo in the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 What a mess of a finish today, a bloody roundabout with 300m to go, farcical stuff. Chris Froome got 2 bonus seconds out on the road, but then missed the split on the run-in to the finish, so now trails Cobo by 22 secs. My bet is Cobo finishes right alongside Froome tomorrow, and that will finish the race as a contest. surely to f**k brailsford will at least tell froome to let wiggins get ahead of him in the GC. unheralded domestique finishes ahead of team leader in a grand tour, nothing to see here! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winaukee Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Anyone heading to the first stage on the tour of Britain this weekend? Was thinking of going to Innerleithen to see the first sprint but not got a clue where to park etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myshkin Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 surely to f**k brailsford will at least tell froome to let wiggins get ahead of him in the GC. unheralded domestique finishes ahead of team leader in a grand tour, nothing to see here! Brailsford's probably just happy it's not Dario Cioni 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Surely Wiggins has to make his move today. He's sitting on Cobos wheel, but Cobo looks to be going easy here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Wiggins has cracked.....again. Cobo and Froome have gone off the front and Froome is attacking like a mad man here. And Cobo cracks!!! Froome has a gap and going for the stage!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) Froome takes the stage, but Cobo hangs in. The time gap is 13 secs overall after that. An incredible finish to the stage, one of the best I`ve seen in a while, that last km was superb viewing. Edit: Sky must surely be regretting having Froome do all that work for Wiggins earlier in the race... Edited September 7, 2011 by Desert Nomad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Froome takes the stage, but Cobo hangs in. The time gap is 13 secs overall after that. An incredible finish to the stage, one of the best I`ve seen in a while, that last km was superb viewing. The most exciting last corner ever Great recovery from Cobo. Froome looked like he was going to do it when he launched that attack, but Cobo hung in and managed to get back to him. Great stage! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Why do they have time bonuses in the Vuelta? Is it the same for the Giro? I think I can remember it in the TDF when I was younger. It's not a rule I like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) Why do they have time bonuses in the Vuelta? Is it the same for the Giro? I think I can remember it in the TDF when I was younger. It's not a rule I like. They`ve had them in all the GT`s at some stage or another. Most of the Armstrong years in the TDF included time bonuses, not that it ever mattered. Froome didn`t get a bonus for his second in the TT, which unbeliveably would make it a one second difference. Froome, I think, is still ahead of Cobo, if all the bonuses were nullified. I`m not a fan of the bonuses really, except perhaps that early in GT`s it gives the sprinters their chance of pulling on the leaders jersey. In Cipollini`s days he wore yellow, as there were bonuses as far as the first TT or mountain stage. Edited September 7, 2011 by Desert Nomad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 They`ve had them in all the GT`s at some stage or another. Most of the Armstrong years in the TDF included time bonuses, not that it ever mattered. Froome didn`t get a bonus for his second in the TT, which unbeliveably would make it a one second difference. Froome, I think, is still ahead of Cobo, if all the bonuses were nullified. I`m not a fan of the bonuses really, except perhaps that early in GT`s it gives the sprinters their chance of pulling on the leaders jersey. In Cipollini`s days he wore yellow, as there were bonuses as far as the first TT or mountain stage. It leaves open the possibility of a false winner, I mean nullify the bonuses and what does the GC look like? Why not just race and the guy with the quickest overall time wins? What does the rest if the race look like? Are there many opportunities of Froome clawing the time back? Surely Sky have to try and get a guy in who has an actual hope of winning a grand tour. Are there many available? Wiggins simply can't handle 3 weeks of racing like this. Sky have fucked themselves by putting all their hopes in Wiggins. Surely they knew who had the legs between Wiggins and Froome after the first few mountains? Yet have continued to have Froome ride for Wiggins until Wiggins blew up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 It leaves open the possibility of a false winner, I mean nullify the bonuses and what does the GC look like? Why not just race and the guy with the quickest overall time wins? What does the rest if the race look like? Are there many opportunities of Froome clawing the time back? Surely Sky have to try and get a guy in who has an actual hope of winning a grand tour. Are there many available? Wiggins simply can't handle 3 weeks of racing like this. Sky have fucked themselves by putting all their hopes in Wiggins. Surely they knew who had the legs between Wiggins and Froome after the first few mountains? Yet have continued to have Froome ride for Wiggins until Wiggins blew up. Vuelta heading into the Basque Country for the first time since 1978 for a couple of stages(19 & 20), followed by the procession into Madrid on Sunday. Stage 18: Stage 19: Stage 20: There will be some hard racing, but for me the breakaways will dominate. What a pity Stage 20 doesn`t finish on that cat 1 climb, a 13 second gap deserves it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 it looks like contador is going to get off. wada discussing clenbuterol threshold there's no way they'd be talking about this if they were 100% set on getting bertie banned. it's also good news for the mexican footballers who tested positive - one of whom had 84 times the amount contador had in his system but was still backed by the mexican fa, sepp blatter and the president of mexico. if contador wins this case then i'd say that the fight against doping is definitively lost. sporting federations seem to operate under a belief that a testing system that catches and punishes cheats is bad for business, testing in most sports appears to be little more than a pr exercise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 tony martin romps the world tt by over a minute. not a suprise but adds a bit of context to evans being within 7s of him at the tour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 lance, menchov, scaponi implicated in international criminal conspiracy with dr. michele ferrari Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera has published details of the international investigation into the activities of Dr. Michele Ferrari and his many clients, including Lance Armstrong, Denis Menchov and Michele Scarponi. Ferrari remains banned for life by the Italian Cycling Federation based on rider testimony and other evidence that he provided doping products to athletes, but was cleared of criminal charges in 2006. Any rider shown to have worked with Ferrari face a sporting ban. However, the prestigious Milan-based broadsheet quotes from detailed police documents, lifting the lid on the investigation being carried out in Italy, Switzerland and the USA, and suggesting that 30 people are suspected of being part of a criminal association. Italian rider agent Raimondo Scimone is also named in the article and described as the organiser of the network between sponsors, teams, banks and riders. Armstrong is not under investigation in the case because he is based in the USA. However, Corriere della Sera reports that investigators in Los Angeles have formally requested information on the investigation. The seven-time Tour de France winner has been linked to Ferrari several times over the years. Last year his spokesman Mark Fabiani said that Armstrong had not had a professional relationship with Ferrari since 2004 but admitted that he occasionally sees the Ferrari family, with the last time being in 2010, before his final Tour de France. Armstrong never tested positive during his long career and has always denied accusations of doping. Corriere della Sera claims that Armstrong made a series of payments to a company based in Neufchatel, Switzerland. The company has been closed down but investigators believe Dr Ferrari was linked to it. Police apparently tapped phone calls during the investigation and reportedly captured several calls between Armstrong and Dr Ferrari's son Stefano. Armstrong seemingly called Ferrari with the code name of 'Number One'. It seems Ferrari used a series of international mobile phones and special IT systems to communicate with his clients. He often followed them closely at races and in training with a camper van. He was spotted by police in Sankt Moritz and at various locations in Italy, close to riders' homes. A bag full of cash Corriere Della Sera reports that several riders and a sports doctor were intercepted by Italian and Swiss police as they visited banks. The doctor was stopped as he left a bank in Sankt Moritz apparently with a bag that was described in police reports as 'full of cash'. Police are investigating possible acts of money laundering, fraud and doping and it seems police have already seized 2.4 million Euro from Menchov's accounts, with a total of 10 million Euro seized during the investigation. The newspaper quotes what it claims is a section of the official police report: "Because earnings increase with the increase of victories and results, the use of illegal banned substances becomes the easiest way to score the points needed by the rider and their teams and so earn the significant contracts. This illegal system is economically advantageous for the athlete, for the doctor who can increase his fee, the agent who is paid a percentage of the contract, and even the defence lawyers." Cyclingnews tried to contact Dr Ferrari but nobody answered the phone at his home in Ferrara, Italy. Raimondo Scimone responded to Cyclingnews in a text message, saying: "It's a joke, with the investigation based on science fiction, without any kind of truth to it. And anyway, the investigation is still underway." Italian police in Padua refused to give any details of their investigation to Cyclingnews. Fabiani and Armstrong’s personal assistant Mark Higgins did not reply to calls from Cyclingnews. at this rate it's going to turn out he was behind 9/11. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 From twitter:- “@bradwiggins: Cav wins, I think its safe to say tonight we are all going to get shitfaced! Lock and load” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 By all accounts the British team were superb today and Cav delivered for them, haven't seen it yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Yeah great to see team gb win it he lost the train at the end but still found away by them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 By all accounts the British team were superb today and Cav delivered for them, haven't seen it yet. BBC 2 earlier today, but try the red button it might be on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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