jaggyness Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Hate to be that guy but Hindley is at Bora. I agree with Shuggie, most of what he says is spot on. The problem with saying UAE and Ineos need to improve is, who do they go and sign to improve? JV now are like the 2012-15 sky in that they have all the best riders pretty much. Could one of the aforementioned sign a van der Poel? Hindley, Alaphilippe or Evenepoel? UAE do have Juan ayuso who is supposedly the next big thing in cycling and ineos have the likes of Tullet and Sheffield to compliment Pidcock but could any of them win a GT? I'm not sure. Could Roglic go to one of them since he's probably now behind Vingegaard? What, particularly ineos, need to do is convince all these (super)domestiques that's all they are going into a race. Could a Roglic/Hindley leading a team with Ganna, Rowe, Martinez, Yates, Kwiatkowski and Pidcock challenge Vingegaard or Pogacar? Probably. Hindley will always struggle until he sorts his ITT out against the very best GT contenders as he isn't in their league 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Roglic to Inoes would make sense I think, but he's tied to Jumbo until 2025. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 At least Jumbo-Visma are exciting and decent to watch, probably because they're (seemingly) actively trying to win every jersey. Wout van Aert is a marvel every time he turns a wheel, Vingegaard looks to be the only person who can match Pogacar which people weren't sure was possible. Additionally watching Sepp Kuss, Tiesj Benoot and Kruijswijk bury themselves every day to nullify Pogacar is impressive. Infinitely more entertaining that watching Sky baby the Yellow jersey to Paris whilst under no real threat, whilst doing nothing else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 This going into every grand Tour with 2 or 3 team leaders needs to end for Ineos. All they are doing is hoping to get one of them on the podium. No intention of supporting one sole leader for the win. Carapaz to EF seems a weird one. For my money, he's Ineos' best shout for a GT win these days, so I'm surprised they haven't done more to hang on to him, especially with Bernal still badly hurt. Given the extent of Bernal's injuries, I'd be very surprised if he's back challenging for GTs again. He suffered a fractured vertebrae, a fractured femur, a fractured patella, a punctured lung, broken ribs and the last I heard he badly messed up his neck too, which may also require surgery. That's going to be very tough to come back from and seriously challenge the elite guys like Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic, Carapaz etc. Roglic is contracted to Jumbo until 2025, so I'm not really sure how he will be used moving forward. A great rider, but you always have that feeling that he has a bad day/mistake in him at any time. It's happened to him at multiple tours, and also at Paris Nice last year if I recall. Is he going to be happy play super domestique? I can;t see it or he wouldn't have abandoned so readily with Vingegaard in such a strong position. Or will he simply target the Vuelta and Giro? It'll be interesting to see how Pogacar/UAE react to this. I suspect they will seriously stregthen their climbing team in the off-season. This tour really exposed how weak their team is. Aside from Majka, and one excellent day for McNulty, they've been nowhere. Granted they've been unlucky with positive tests and injury, but if they still had a full compliment I really don't think it'd have made much difference. I think it's vital they keep Majka. Even if they could add a Wilco Kelderman type, you feel they'd instantly be stronger.It's exactly the same f**k up that Movistar have made with no clear leader and the domestiques have no idea how ro react to attacks in real time and who to support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Wout van Aert was definitely that c**t at school who was class at every sport. Didn't matter whether it was cross country running or netball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 As was mentioned today, 4 years ago everybody was talking about Bernal dominating. Then a year later Pogacar dominating. Now we have Vingegaard looking the same.Wonder who the next guy will be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 22/07/2022 at 18:19, peasy23 said: It's exactly the same f**k up that Movistar have made with no clear leader and the domestiques have no idea how ro react to attacks in real time and who to support. The Netflix doc was fucking hilarious for that. Just a nonsense team doing nonsense things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I played golf at Campsie Golf Club on Saturday which is on the Crow Road over the Campsies. They lease one of their buildings to a bike shop who have added a superb mural to the side of the building. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, peasy23 said: I played golf at Campsie Golf Club on Saturday which is on the Crow Road over the Campsies. They lease one of their buildings to a bike shop who have added a superb mural to the side of the building. I've never been over that way on the bike which is maybe odd considering I've been cycling around Glasgow for goodness knows how long. Wrong side of the river for me I suppose. This is a great, great interview: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Well, Quickstep would have been as well packung up & going home after stage 2.Patrick's choice certainly came up trumps today. Jakobsen was 15th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Caleb Ewan absolutely fumbling it in a sprint again as well. Jakobsen looked absolutely awful in the mountains, then there never seemed to be any belief from any sprinters team on that flat stage the other day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Denny Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 What a three weeks its been... a rollercoaster ride from start to finish.. Pog looking invincible then the Dane stepping up to the plate.. Thomas in 3rd, who'd have thought that at the start.. Not the usual 'Sky/Ineos chain ride'.. More please next year... Roll on La Vuelta. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Bob in Denny said: What a three weeks its been... a rollercoaster ride from start to finish.. Pog looking invincible then the Dane stepping up to the plate.. Thomas in 3rd, who'd have thought that at the start.. Not the usual 'Sky/Ineos chain ride'.. More please next year... Roll on La Vuelta. I love La Vuelta. It's always a bit rogue, folk trying to salvage their season or looking for a new team. Cannot wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Denny Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 10 hours ago, well fan for life said: I love La Vuelta. It's always a bit rogue, folk trying to salvage their season or looking for a new team. Cannot wait. My thoughts too.. Always lacks the polish of the other two.. black mark on it from the 80s with Robert Millar's 'experience' (see Pippa York) though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) That's been an astounding 3 weeks of racing. I think it's my favourite TDF I've seen. WVA is comfortably the best bike rider in the planet. You feel that, if he'd chosen to contest it, he could've won the green jersey by 500+ points. Jumbo were exceptional from start to finish. Despite his incredibly werak team, Pogacar has lit up the race. A proper throw back, just looking to blast clear at any given second of any stage. Brilliant stuff. Fair play to Thomas too. A very good 3 weeks for him. He was never on the same level as the big 2, but was streets ahead of the rest. I've always had a soft spot for the Vuelta and I'm really looking forward to seeing the line-up for that too. You'd think that Roglic will try and finish the season on a high by having a crack at 4 in a row. Carapaz will be in the mix. Is Jai Hindley likely to have a crack at the Vuelta? And perhaps Nibali will go out in a blaze of glory by hunting for stages. I'm looking forward to it. Edited July 25, 2022 by Shuggie_Murray7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said: Fair play to Thomas too. A very good 3 weeks for him. He was never on the same level as the big 2, but was streets ahead of the rest. A big diesel engine. Didn't have the explosive power to match attacks from Pog and JV but just paced himself back every single time. A great performance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said: That's been an astounding 3 weeks of racing. I think it;s my favourite TDF I've seen. WVA is comfortably the best bike rider in the planet. You feel that, if he;d chosen to contest it, he could've won the green jersey by 500+ points. Jumbo were exceptional from start to finish. Despite his incredibly werak team, Pogacar has lit up the race. A proper throw back, just looking to blast clear at any given second of any astage. Brilliant stuff. Fair play to Thomas too. A very good 3 weeks for him. He was never on the same level as the big 2, but was streets ahead of the rest. I've always had a soft spot for the Vuelta and I;m really looking forward to seeing the line-up for that too. You;d think that Roglic will try and finish the season on a high by having a crack at 4 in a row. Carapaz will be in the mix. Is Jai Hindley likely to haver a crack at the Vuelta? And perhaps Nibali eill go out in a laze of glory by hunting for stages. I'm looking forward to it. I suspect Hindley might skip the vuelta with a 'home' worlds immediately after it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Denny Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Ineos Grenadiers won the team prize.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said: And perhaps Nibali will go out in a blaze of glory by hunting for stages. Would imagine he'll be targeting Lombardia, if anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Some unsuspecting cyclists got stalked by the TV crew near Birmingham today. [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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