Musketeer Gripweed Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Well, the Sky team must have used up all their drugs yesterday it would seem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkboy Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 But what damage would actually be done to a huge corporation like Sky if one of their riders actually got caught? They'd spin it, blame/pay off the individual, and carry on making loadsa money. I wasn't referring to News Corp though. It's the people involved in the team like Brailsford who are also closely linked to British Cycling who would have lots to lose. Not to mention British Cycling itself would probably be fucked by association. the argument that wouldn't cheat because they have too to lose is stupid. It's more likely that the track dominance is ped fuelled as well. Eh. sorry but I need more that just assuming that everyone is guilty. Take it you can't answer the question about WADA etc holding on to blood samples then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I wasn't referring to News Corp though. It's the people involved in the team like Brailsford who are also closely linked to British Cycling who would have lots to lose. Not to mention British Cycling itself would probably be fucked by association. Eh. sorry but I need more that just assuming that everyone is guilty. Take it you can't answer the question about WADA etc holding on to blood samples then? how often do samples actually get retested? who have you heard of being banned for a retroactive test? if wada were serious about retesting they could have banned half the peloton for using CERA in 2007. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 poor birdsong poor richie porte as well, sacrificed on the altar of plausibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 That was quality from Dan Martin. Excellent riding. I reckon he's Garmin's man for leading at Grand Tours now. His win in Liege-Bastogne-Liege was tremendous earlier in the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 That was quality from Dan Martin. Excellent riding. I reckon he's Garmin's man for leading at Grand Tours now. His win in Liege-Bastogne-Liege was tremendous earlier in the year. Nice to see the paisley panda making an appearance at this year's tour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) I fucking despise ITV's coverage. Liggett has called Qintana "Quintero" about 5 time thus far. Sherwen. "And I highly doubt Movistar will attack anytime soon." Quintana attacks about a minute later. "Ah, you knew that attack was coming". f**k off. Edited July 7, 2013 by Shuggie_Murray7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkboy Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 how often do samples actually get retested? who have you heard of being banned for a retroactive test? if wada were serious about retesting they could have banned half the peloton for using CERA in 2007. ...That was the question I was asking. Is it possible? I presume it is because didn't Jalabert get busted recently on a decade old sample? In which case you'd hope it'd happen more often. But I guess the UCI don't want it for obvious reasons, & WADA probably feel they have enough to go on with with keeping up with current samples. But I can't speak to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) Watching the two Pyrenean stages, I'm convinced Sky have illness in their ranks. Lopez has been shelled out the back, on the first climb, both days. Day 1 Froome only had support from 3 team mates & yesterday Porter shipped 10 mins. Going by their performances over the last year or so, it looks glaringly obvious that there's something up & both he & Brailsford were sandbagging in their interviews. Lucky that they've the rest day. Oh, & Ligget's a plonker. Did Obree never break the hour record? To back up my argument, I see Kiryenka was excluded on his finishing time, a noted climber. Sent from Spain on my handmedown HTC Wildfire using Pie & Bovril mobile app Edited July 8, 2013 by kiddy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Watching the two Pyrenean stages, I'm convinced Sky have illness in their ranks. Lopez has been shelled out the back, on the first climb, both days. Day 1 Froome only had support from 3 team mates & yesterday Porter shipped 10 mins. Going by their performances over the last year or so, it looks glaringly obvious that there's something up & both he & Brailsford were sandbagging in their interviews. Lucky that they've the rest day. Oh, & Ligget's a plonker. Did Obree never break the hour record? Sent from Spain on my handmedown HTC Wildfire using Pie & Bovril mobile app And if other teams have got wind of it, it would explain the all out attacks yesterday of Garmin & Movistar. Probably fortunate that the race doesn`t hit the hills again until next weekend. If any of you folks have smartphones, I`d recommend downloading the Tour Tracker app by Cyclingnews. Bang up to date, with all the facts, figures, route details of the race. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Check my amendment regards Kiryenka Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Pie & Bovril mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 a pr masterstroke by brailsford. He would have been shitting himself at froome and porte going insane on saturday but now they have changed the narrative to one of the team being weak. On ax3 porte shredded the gc riders then toyed with quintana then rode away with a big smile on his face. On sunday he is apparently dead and couldn't bridge to the leaders despite jens voight and other middle if the pack guys making it. Everytime the cameras were on him he looked like he was out for a fun ride, not someone toiling or fighting for a podium place. Bullshit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 David Walsh all over Cavendish for causing that crash, one wonders if he`d be so outspoken had Cav still been riding for Sky? FWIW I think Cav did butt into the Shimano guy, but he also shifted off his line at high speed. I don`t think Cav will bother if he`s relegated in the sprint with the green jersey being beyond him now. Cav showing his usual petulance post-race, nabbing a daft journo`s tape recorder after he asked him if the crash was his fault 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 David Walsh all over Cavendish for causing that crash, one wonders if he`d be so outspoken had Cav still been riding for Sky? FWIW I think Cav did butt into the Shimano guy, but he also shifted off his line at high speed. I don`t think Cav will bother if he`s relegated in the sprint with the green jersey being beyond him now. Cav showing his usual petulance post-race, nabbing a daft journo`s tape recorder after he asked him if the crash was his fault I don't think it was entirely Cav's fault. It looked like he was trying to skip onto the next wheel, but looked like Veelers was peeling off right instead of left. Cav only shouldered him to counterbalance veering his bike off to the right. It's racing, I don't think the commissaires will get too heavily involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) I don't think it was entirely Cav's fault. It looked like he was trying to skip onto the next wheel, but looked like Veelers was peeling off right instead of left. Cav only shouldered him to counterbalance veering his bike off to the right. It's racing, I don't think the commissaires will get too heavily involved. It`s already been confirmed he won`t be relegated. There`s been far worse in Tour sprints over the years, remember this? ETA: from 19 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRCWIBHoAc4&list=PL6001B361B516D074&feature=player_detailpage#t=1131s Edited July 9, 2013 by Desert Nomad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 a pr masterstroke by brailsford. He would have been shitting himself at froome and porte going insane on saturday but now they have changed the narrative to one of the team being weak. On ax3 porte shredded the gc riders then toyed with quintana then rode away with a big smile on his face. On sunday he is apparently dead and couldn't bridge to the leaders despite jens voight and other middle if the pack guys making it. Everytime the cameras were on him he looked like he was out for a fun ride, not someone toiling or fighting for a podium place. Bullshit. Saw that theory on the BBC live text basically saying that Porte made Movistar do what sky wanted by pushing them to push the pace on.. Not sure I believe that. Froome marked the guys he had to, his teammates bombed after a previous hard day. Time trial on Wednesday should add to Froome's time advantage, can't see him being beaten, although a shortish course so he won't build up too much of a lead. Would only get interesting if it rained. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Saw that theory on the BBC live text basically saying that Porte made Movistar do what sky wanted by pushing them to push the pace on.. Not sure I believe that. Froome marked the guys he had to, his teammates bombed after a previous hard day. Time trial on Wednesday should add to Froome's time advantage, can't see him being beaten, although a shortish course so he won't build up too much of a lead. Would only get interesting if it rained. With it being a relatively flat course, which isn't very technical I'd put money on Tony Martin to win the stage. Froome will leather time into his GC rivals though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Just saw on Twitter that Cavendish has had pish thrown at him on today's stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Paul Sherwan going on about the remarkable high cadence that Froome peddles with. Exactly what he said about Armstrong for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Paul Sherwan going on about the remarkable high cadence that Froome peddles with. Exactly what he said about Armstrong for years. Get onto Eurosport, man! I can't hack the ITV commentary on the live coverage. Also, Froome quicker than Martin? It'll be interesting to see if this sticks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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